[GSL] Liquid`Jinro, EG.IdrA - S3 Ro32 Foreigner Sp. - Page 5

On December 02 2010 14:29 Spenguin wrote:
How can the korean players not like Idra?

Thanks for the write-up and the interviews, great job once again :D

On December 02 2010 18:59 Black Gun wrote:
i wonder how the koreans would have reacted to the immense amounts of bm nony and idra were throwing at each other before their TSL ro8 match....

but ok, its a different culture which values manners much more than ours does... but tbh i can somehow understand the hate he gets. did he really just say the following?



did he just say this after being knocked out in the ro32 for the second time in 3 gsls? he has not reached ro8 once in 3 tries, and still considers himself one of the best?

i dont wanna say that he is not, but the facts are barely backing up his claims, so it just feels akward and a little arrogant to me. same thing last gsl. after his ro32 win, he said something along the lines of "if i dont run into cool too early, i think i got a good chance to take the whole tournament", just to get completely outclassed in the next round by zenio, who in the following round got completely outclassed himself.

its not just his bm, its his general attitude which gets him so much hate. and although i dont share this hate, i can still understand why others feel about him like they do.

On December 03 2010 00:29 laguu wrote:
Out of the two, it's so much easier to be a fan of Jinro..

On December 03 2010 00:45 neoenigma wrote:

His GSL1 loss was... pretty sad to watch. Obvious mistake on his part. But he lost to zenio in GSL2 who is a really good zerg. Losing to MVP in GSL3 (highest ranked on Korean ladder) is ALSO no reason to say Idra isn't one of the best. What round you get knocked out in does not matter. A lot of AMAZING players have been knocked out really early.

Not saying Idra IS the best... but he's played in 3 straight GSLs, qualifying against the best of the best and winning at least 1 game in each tournament. When you consider that the GSL is a tournament for the best in the entire world... losing to just about any RO32 participant is not difficult. Especially in a game like SC2 where the winner of a match is often very surprising.

So I'll continue to believe that Idra IS one of the best... and will only get better as he learns from his mistakes. Looking forward to seeing him play in future GSLs (because... you know.. he has code S. Something *cough* very easy to get. *cough*).

Oh... and these crappy maps and poor spawn placements certainly do not help...

On December 03 2010 01:57 Black Gun wrote:



his loses in gsl2 and 3 are excusable, yes. but they still dont back up the claim of being one of the best. i personally interpret "one of the best" as something like top 10 or top 20 players in the world, not top 60 or so which idra is, resultswise. (he probably is easily top 30 in terms of skill, but i was talking about results...)

but when he talks about more or less only fruitdealer standing between him and the title after winning in the ro32, then getting outclassed in the next round by an opponent who himself was outclassed by the eventual winner, i can only conclude that at the time of gsl2, nestea was at least 2 classes better than idra at zvz. kinda cocky to talk about one´s great chances of winning it all after the ro32 when you are in fact brutally outclassed in at least one of the 3 matchups by several other contenders.

some more humility sometimes would fit him well imho.