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[TSL] TL Punishes Cheaters - Page 9

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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 22:20:18
December 21 2009 22:19 GMT
#161
I don't agree with it. Cutting too many good players from tsl3. Tournaments like this are supposed to cater to spectators, who create revenue through clicking adverts and discovering sponsors products, and this decision will make tsl3 a whole lot less fun for people who are fans of the players caught.

I understand cutting them from this tournament for the sake of all the players who didnt cheat, but I don't see how them cheating this season affects future TSL's. Sure it discourages future players from cheating but at the cost of the people who will be watching the tournament.
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DeViOuS
Profile Joined December 2009
United States22 Posts
December 21 2009 22:25 GMT
#162
TSL Admins for prez~
Team [Siege] / Less QQ, more pew pew.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
December 21 2009 22:30 GMT
#163
good call, zero tolerance with cheaters anywhere!
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
DancerS_au
Profile Joined August 2004
Australia40 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 22:34:33
December 21 2009 22:33 GMT
#164
Great work TL!

For far too long there has been no deterrence for people who decide to cheat in tournaments. This is a great step in preventing these kind of incidents in future events. The punishment definately fits the crime and I hope people learn from this.

Now if only other Starcraft communities can jump on board with TL and create a uniform / standardized way of dealing with abuse in foreign events, it will be the only way to truly tackle the problem of cheating. Also I hope the high exposure of the abuse in TSL2 hasnt affected the foreign starcraft scene from any future sponsorship opportunities.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 21 2009 22:36 GMT
#165
On December 22 2009 07:19 jimminy_kriket wrote:
I don't agree with it. Cutting too many good players from tsl3. Tournaments like this are supposed to cater to spectators, who create revenue through clicking adverts and discovering sponsors products, and this decision will make tsl3 a whole lot less fun for people who are fans of the players caught.

I understand cutting them from this tournament for the sake of all the players who didnt cheat, but I don't see how them cheating this season affects future TSL's. Sure it discourages future players from cheating but at the cost of the people who will be watching the tournament.

it allows for new foreigners that dont abuse to try and break into the scene and theres always tsl4 and on for your favourite banned player to come back
© Current year.
Steveh
Profile Joined October 2009
United States112 Posts
December 21 2009 22:40 GMT
#166
anyone who compares a foreign competitive starcraft tournament to sports is an idiot and it ends up taking 4 pages of posts to explain the million differences

i love these 'im a lurker but i felt so obligated to post here and defend cheaters' replies, more like 'my best friend isnt going to be able to jam in tsl3 and this sucks'. pick better e-friends next time

im a lurker and i feel all these cheaters should be banner longer. i come from playing competitive counter-strike as long as many of you play competitive starcraft and the bans for FREE LEAGUES were just as bad even worse. anywhere from 1-4 years.

in terms of fan excitement, who didnt watch ret's take on the qualifier group and not get excited?

sympathize with the CHEATERS not being able to play for MONEY. makes alot of sense
Attritive
Profile Joined December 2009
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 22:41:45
December 21 2009 22:40 GMT
#167
Good riddens. I also think greater steps should be taken to detect maphack and other cheats. There are so many people putting effort into this game that there has to be some people who can create better methods of catching cheaters.

Regarding anyone who doesn't like the penalty: Cheaters deserve to be banned for life immediately. Stop whining, because those bastards got lucky.
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
December 21 2009 22:45 GMT
#168
nice!
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
December 21 2009 22:49 GMT
#169
Yes! Awesome <3
I love seeing cheaters getting fucked.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 21 2009 22:56 GMT
#170
ZERO TOLERANCE
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 21 2009 22:58 GMT
#171
it's sad there's a need for such rules. when a cheater is caught i always think of selector and how he got away 10times with hacking.
Sp)Remake(
Profile Joined December 2009
Russian Federation13 Posts
December 21 2009 23:06 GMT
#172
gogo clear way for statsers like morrow --
DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
December 21 2009 23:07 GMT
#173
1 year for the first offense and a permanent ban on the second, exactly what I hoped it would be, excellent work.
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
December 21 2009 23:18 GMT
#174
solid punishment.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
EcterA
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 23:19:48
December 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#175
On December 22 2009 07:19 jimminy_kriket wrote:
I don't agree with it. Cutting too many good players from tsl3. Tournaments like this are supposed to cater to spectators, who create revenue through clicking adverts and discovering sponsors products, and this decision will make tsl3 a whole lot less fun for people who are fans of the players caught.

I understand cutting them from this tournament for the sake of all the players who didnt cheat, but I don't see how them cheating this season affects future TSL's. Sure it discourages future players from cheating but at the cost of the people who will be watching the tournament.

If tournaments like this are meant to cater to fans and spectators, then the cheaters should absolutely be banned from future tournaments. As someone who watches competitive Starcraft as a fan, I felt cheated when I saw who the abusers were. Some of them I was rooting for to get into top 48, and was planning on rooting for them through TSL. They made a fool out of me for believing that they were competing honestly. They weren't. If you still want to be fans of these people, that's fine. I say well done TL, well done Admins, go home cheaters.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
December 21 2009 23:22 GMT
#176
Nice work.

100% support.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 21 2009 23:28 GMT
#177
Hopefully next time the there wont be so many abusers. You really do need to have a hard stance to stop it. Good work TL.
psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
December 21 2009 23:29 GMT
#178
On December 22 2009 07:19 jimminy_kriket wrote:
I don't agree with it. Cutting too many good players from tsl3. Tournaments like this are supposed to cater to spectators, who create revenue through clicking adverts and discovering sponsors products, and this decision will make tsl3 a whole lot less fun for people who are fans of the players caught


The following is partly hyperbole even though it's true because of the comical aspect, but I would prefer to watch my grandma play a game of Starcraft than to watch a cheater, regardless of how good he is. She probably doesn't even know how to turn on a computer.

Anyway, as a lurker, I'm mildly surprised at how lenient the sentencing was.
NiteKat
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States146 Posts
December 21 2009 23:43 GMT
#179
I kind of see where unk. is coming from with what he is saying. Basically, what most of the abusers did WAS NOT against the rules of the iCCup ladder... giving a free win to a friend is not against the rules, as long as you do it within the amount of games you're allowed to play. You have every right to decide to leave a game at any point, so if I hopped in a game as a B rank player with a D rank friend, and leave after the 2 minute mark to give him points, it isn't breaking a single iCCup rule.

What unk is saying (I think), is that makes it ridiculous for TL and others to expect iCCup to ban the abusing players. Though unk, from what I can tell, has said nothing about it being wrong to ban from TL events and the next TSL.

Although I think the players that made a new account, played it up to their current rank, then had a friend give free wins through an account that received those stats via a transfer from the gaining player IS abuse by iCCup rules... unk, you may correct me if I am wrong on that case.

(As a funny side note, contrary to my example, I am NOT a B player ^^)
SteffoDeffo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany48 Posts
December 21 2009 23:45 GMT
#180
really nice
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