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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
December 22 2009 01:59 GMT
#201
First of all, I'm really happy and proud of being part of a community that has no tolerance against cheaters.
One thing I feel like you either forgot to mention or didn't think of though... While it's a good thing that other communities punish these cheaters as well, it just isn't enough. What you, TL, didn't in this case was being very active in the fight against cheating - more so than ever before seen in the foreign community. I have doubt that other events have the same posibilities to actually perform this sort of investigations to find the cheaters. But this comes with professionalism of course and I see (though TL.net isn't a real company) TSL being a very very professionally arranged event.
Bravo to TL.net for doing this amazing work. I feel like cheating has always been a thing holding back not just Starcraft, but Esports in generalt from becoming mainstream, as we see it in Korea. It's is nice to see actions taken on this topic.
화이팅
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
December 22 2009 02:04 GMT
#202
This will certainly deter most people from cheating next time. Job well done.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
December 22 2009 02:06 GMT
#203
The path of the righteous player is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the rule breakers and the tyranny of self gaining abusers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the ladder of darkness, for he is truly a TSL keeper and the finder of true players. And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my Star League. And you will know our name is TEAM LIQUID when we lay our vengeance upon thee.
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
December 22 2009 02:15 GMT
#204
Seems harsh, I will miss seeing some of the players just because they could provide good games, but then it doesn't matter because cheating is not acceptable.

and all the fanboyism is making me sick... special case for F91... for what? all people who apologized did it after they got caught. If they didn't apologize ten probably because they feel genuinely ashamed, but again it doesn't matter...

btw has any team taken any action against a cheater? (i would be positivity surprised if so, but its highly unlikely, because it would put the given team in great disadvantage if there isn't ant-cheating support from everyone, which it looks like we wont get because of how biased and fanboyish everyone is)
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
December 22 2009 02:17 GMT
#205
Its perfect, die to cheater
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 22 2009 02:27 GMT
#206
On December 22 2009 11:06 Zurles wrote:
The path of the righteous player is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the rule breakers and the tyranny of self gaining abusers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the ladder of darkness, for he is truly a TSL keeper and the finder of true players. And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my Star League. And you will know our name is TEAM LIQUID when we lay our vengeance upon thee.

:D
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karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
December 22 2009 02:42 GMT
#207
finally
zzzzzz
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
December 22 2009 02:54 GMT
#208
On December 22 2009 11:27 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 11:06 Zurles wrote:
The path of the righteous player is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the rule breakers and the tyranny of self gaining abusers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the ladder of darkness, for he is truly a TSL keeper and the finder of true players. And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my Star League. And you will know our name is TEAM LIQUID when we lay our vengeance upon thee.

:D

Hahahah, gotta love Pulp Fiction (and the Bible ;O) :D.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
December 22 2009 03:10 GMT
#209
On December 22 2009 11:06 Zurles wrote:
The path of the righteous player is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the rule breakers and the tyranny of self gaining abusers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the ladder of darkness, for he is truly a TSL keeper and the finder of true players. And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my Star League. And you will know our name is TEAM LIQUID when we lay our vengeance upon thee.
respect+ 1000

you win sir, you win!
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
December 22 2009 03:11 GMT
#210
So. No stake burnings then. I'm quite disappointed.
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
December 22 2009 03:15 GMT
#211
On December 22 2009 11:06 Zurles wrote:
The path of the righteous player is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the rule breakers and the tyranny of self gaining abusers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the ladder of darkness, for he is truly a TSL keeper and the finder of true players. And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my Star League. And you will know our name is TEAM LIQUID when we lay our vengeance upon thee.

I think the OP should just be change to this. With this people need no explanation.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
December 22 2009 03:22 GMT
#212
On December 22 2009 11:06 Zurles wrote:
The path of the righteous player is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the rule breakers and the tyranny of self gaining abusers. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the ladder of darkness, for he is truly a TSL keeper and the finder of true players. And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my Star League. And you will know our name is TEAM LIQUID when we lay our vengeance upon thee.

Hahaha that was quality.

Back on topic, I was very pleasantly surprised by these penalties and the OP in general. With all the tough talk being bandied about in the GG.net thread, I thought TL was seriously considering lifetime bans for these people which I considered completely excessive in circumstances involving first time offenders and a lack of clearly espoused penalties. TL needed to set out in stone what the penalties would be and I'm glad they have finally done so.

On with the rest of the show!

SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 22 2009 03:40 GMT
#213
I'm glad you're punishing cheaters.

It degrades great players like Ret and Idra (who I hate) if you were to let cheaters compete and possibly win against hard working players. No one would bother competing (or have cash winnings).
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
December 22 2009 04:02 GMT
#214
I am looking forward to TSL2, thanks to TL staff for all their hard work! The punishment fits the crime imho.. :D
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 04:04:30
December 22 2009 04:03 GMT
#215
Unk just sent a message to everyone:

"Create 2 Accs, have your friend play one of them and give you free wins. Thats NOT against ICCUP rules"

-----

To the ppl saying the show is more important than the fair play (i dont believe some said that):
Kill yourselves. This is not WWF, this is SC.

-----

To Teamliquid:
Kudos. The punishment is as harsh as it shoud be. Raised your respect bar even higher.
-*-
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 22 2009 04:08 GMT
#216
Good decision TL!

This is just the set of rules that we need.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
December 22 2009 04:18 GMT
#217
u know whats bs...

f91 being forced to fly to another country to particpate in the tourny
bisu fanboy
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
December 22 2009 04:32 GMT
#218
im very glad they did this. maybe it's cuz im not particularly involved/knowledgeable about the foreigner scene to care about what happens to these people personally, but this is definitely a great punishment. down with cheaters!
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
December 22 2009 04:32 GMT
#219
On December 22 2009 13:18 fearus wrote:
u know whats bs...

f91 being forced to fly to another country to particpate in the tourny


he wasnt forced. he agreed to it.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 04:34:17
December 22 2009 04:33 GMT
#220
On December 22 2009 13:18 fearus wrote:
u know whats bs...

f91 being forced to fly to another country to particpate in the tourny



Actually, it isn't. It's his choice to play in the tournament. It's not like anyone is forcing him to play in the TSL.
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