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[TSL] TL Punishes Cheaters

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[TSL] TL Punishes Cheaters

Text byTL.net Bot
December 21st, 2009 15:27 GMT
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For the past 10 years, the Starcraft community has created a culture of passivity towards cheating and abuse. There has been very little enforcement or accountability by tournament organizers, teams, and fans. It seemed as though as long as a player was good at Starcraft, he could get away with anything. It is a shame that such a great community could have such a huge flaw. This culture of leniency and apathy towards cheaters certainly contributed to the large numbers of high level players choosing to abuse in the recent TSL Ladder.

Ladder abuse is just as criminal as hacking. The end result is no different. An abuser is essentially stealing prize money from honest players and robbing the community of a worthwhile competition. TeamLiquid strongly values honest competition and fair play, and we have decided to use our TSL to send a message to the community that these sorts of actions are no longer acceptable.



Current Penalties

These penalties will only be applied for this TSL (see future penalty rules later). Our goals with these penalties are to ensure that the current TSL is as clean and fair as possible, and to deter future players from cheating.

Group 1: Banned from TL events for 12 months AND TSL3 (whenever it is):
  • Advokate
  • Dimaga
  • F91
  • Juanjo
  • Mercury
  • Pomi
  • Reason
  • RiboRibo
  • Sarens
  • Scan
  • Vasilisk
  • Yosh

Group 2: Banned from TL events for 8 months AND TSL3 (whenever it is):
  • Fraer
  • HappyZerg
  • Juachi
  • Ranged
  • Tuzer

Group 1 include players who abused and gained from the abuse.
Group 2 include players who abused but only to help another player.



Future Penalty Rules

These rules will come into effect after the PokerStrategy.com TSL is over. Our future penalties rules will be stricter, because players now have notice about them.
  • First time offenders without personal gain will be banned for a minimum of 12 months and the next two TSLs.
  • First time offenders with personal gain will be banned for a minimum of 18 months and the next two TSLs.
  • Repeat offenders will be banned for life.

To all players (not just those who abused during this TSL):
If you cheat in any way (even in a non-TeamLiquid event), we reserve the right to disqualify you based upon these rules. If you want to participate in TSL3 (or any other TL event), be 100% clean, everywhere.



We urge other web sites, teams, clans, and tournaments to take similar action. The only way this widespread problem can be solved is if we all work together. We applaud GosuGamers for banning all TSL abusers from their events for six months. But it is not enough for just two sites to take a stand against cheating. There should be zero tolerance for cheating from anyone in our community.

A tournament organizer or site administrator who does not take similar action against these players is supporting cheating in their tournament. A clan or national team that does not remove these players from their lineup is sending a message that their clan or country finds it acceptable to have cheaters on their team. This passive tolerance of cheating is not acceptable, and TeamLiquid will not advertise clans, teams, or events that continue to disrespect this game.

We hope that by 2011, these players will work hard toward earning back the trust of the community and become honest competitors again. We also hope that our community as a whole will have a strong anti-cheating reputation.

Thank you to all the fans for their support and to the legitimate players of the PokerStrategy.com TSL for making our tournament possible. With these cheating incidents behind us, we can finally focus on the good parts of the TSL. Get ready for a great tournament!

--TSL Staff


TL events include TSL, Liquibition, TL: Attack!, Progamer Merchandise sales, SC2 related competitions, the PokerStrategy.com raffle, and any community run tournaments or special events.
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TL.net130 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 09:30:09
December 21 2009 15:23 GMT
#2
Our cheating FAQ (partial credit to Korn, PokerStrategy founder and sponsor of this TSL)

"But they didn't need the abuse / hack to qualify..."
Results do not matter. Cheating is wrong regardless of who cheats. It negatively impacts the tournament, the fans, and most of all the other honest competitors.

"Cheaters deserve a second chance / they shouldn't be banned for that long"
One of the main reasons cheating has been so rampant is because our community kept giving cheaters more chances with no consequences. Cheaters have nothing to fear. Our goal is not just to punish these specific cheaters, but to send a message that will discourage cheating in the future.

"But they just abused in this tournament"
The TSL is the largest foreign StarCraft event outside of WCG. This is like saying "well this track runner only cheated in the Olympics." Also, while this tournament has a large prize pool, it also matters to players and fans in terms of competition and enjoyment. We will not allow our event to be tainted by cheating.

"But these players shouldn't be banned, they are so good"
While these cheaters may very well be excellent players, they are extremely bad for the StarCraft community. The perception of our game and our community is very important to potential players, fans, and sponsors. We cannot make exceptions simply because a player is skilled.

"A ban from TSL3 seems too harsh"
We must ban these cheaters from at least one future TSL. Otherwise, there is not deterrent toward abusing in the current TSL. If a player realizes he probably will not qualify, and the punishment for abuse is DQ from the current TSL, what stops him from abusing? There is no real penalty for him.

But what about your anti-cheating policies for TSL3?
We don't beleive that this is the time or place to be discussing what happens in TSL3. Rest assured that all information about anti-cheating measures will be announced once TSL3 begins (whenever that may be). For now, enjoy the elimination stages of the TSL.
D4L[invd]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada110 Posts
December 21 2009 15:31 GMT
#3
Ouch.. being banned from TSL3 too? that's gotta hurt
Your average D Protoss that can't get out of D because it is full of Protoss and my PvP sucks.
ItsPaul
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia177 Posts
December 21 2009 15:31 GMT
#4
Here here!
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
December 21 2009 15:33 GMT
#5
well done!
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
December 21 2009 15:33 GMT
#6
holy crap, this is a tough one
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 21 2009 15:33 GMT
#7
TL Laying down the law. Full 100% support.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 21 2009 15:35 GMT
#8
Nice work, I had a feeling that they would be banned from the next event. Go TL.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
December 21 2009 15:35 GMT
#9
Good.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 21 2009 15:36 GMT
#10
Nice work.

Also, is Scan still a featured streamer? I think that removing his stream would be an appropriate penalty.
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
December 21 2009 15:38 GMT
#11
This is fair. I was afraid you'd enforce an insta "for life" ban. I wouldn't cry about it, I'd never abuse, but yeah, people learn from their (ever so ridiculous) mistakes.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 21 2009 15:38 GMT
#12
On December 22 2009 00:36 Athos wrote:
Nice work.

Also, is Scan still a featured streamer? I think that removing his stream would be an appropriate penalty.

Normally id agree but getrting a few wins doesnt make him any less fo a good player.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
December 21 2009 15:39 GMT
#13
Painful but just, I guess.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
December 21 2009 15:41 GMT
#14
Zinger. Ouch! No TSL3 is painful, but totally apporpriate. Well done TSL staff!
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
December 21 2009 15:41 GMT
#15
On December 22 2009 00:36 Athos wrote:
Nice work.

Also, is Scan still a featured streamer? I think that removing his stream would be an appropriate penalty.

Think of his streaming as community service :-P
St0rmRush
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil448 Posts
December 21 2009 15:41 GMT
#16
This is Fair. I agree 100%!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10687 Posts
December 21 2009 15:44 GMT
#17
It's actually less restrictive than i thought it would be, but sounds good.
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
December 21 2009 15:47 GMT
#18
The bot has spoken, the people has listened!
AKA SuddenSalad
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
December 21 2009 15:47 GMT
#19
Great job guys. I am proud to be a member of this site thank you.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
December 21 2009 15:48 GMT
#20
smelly cats, smelly cats

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