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Steveh
Profile Joined October 2009
United States112 Posts
December 21 2009 17:53 GMT
#81
how can anyone think this ban is harsh when there is thousands of dollars at stake


Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 21 2009 17:57 GMT
#82
Bravo!
Never Knows Best.
Xaanix
Profile Joined October 2009
United States109 Posts
December 21 2009 17:59 GMT
#83
Bravo! This is exactly the type of stance that is needed to address this issue.
our deeds have traveled far what we have been is what we are - Dream Theater - SFAM
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
December 21 2009 18:00 GMT
#84
On December 22 2009 00:57 charcute wrote:
banned for 12 months is like to ban forever with sc2 comming, hope there will be less hacker in others tournament


TSL3 might very well be a SC2 tournament.

"Off with their heads!"
11 years and counting- TL #680
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
December 21 2009 18:15 GMT
#85
Great! That'll show em!
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 21 2009 18:16 GMT
#86
This was very well thought out. Good choices by TL mods. I think it's good to give one second chance, so a harsh penalty on the first offense followed by permaban on the second offense is a good balance. (Although I wouldn't have been upset by an immediate permaban on everyone who cheated, I do think this way is a lot better.)
May the BeSt man win.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 21 2009 18:18 GMT
#87
Mmmmmmmm schadenfraud.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
December 21 2009 18:22 GMT
#88
On December 22 2009 03:18 Warrior Madness wrote:
Mmmmmmmm schadenfraud.

interesting portmanteau
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 21 2009 18:23 GMT
#89
T E A M L I Q U I D

Sucks for F91 and some of the players I like, but rules are rules, and cheaters must be punished!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
December 21 2009 18:35 GMT
#90
Glad to see TL taking a hard line.

Just one minor point, in the FAQ you said "TSL is the penultimate foreign SC event," but I believe you meant "premiere foreign SC event."
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
December 21 2009 18:49 GMT
#91
Great job TL and GG
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
December 21 2009 18:50 GMT
#92
*claps* I always wondered why the community was so lax with cheaters. Hell, with some cheaters who are liked, people actually DEFEND the act! Its insane. I hope this is the start of a new outlook for the community in regards to abuse.
GaliKo
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada207 Posts
December 21 2009 18:54 GMT
#93
Have to agree, may they server they're sentence, then and only then may they try to earn a second chance.
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
December 21 2009 18:55 GMT
#94
nice thx
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 19:01:35
December 21 2009 19:00 GMT
#95
This is a true punishment.
I am glad our TL team is showing that we need to show respect specially in events like this.

Kudos to the Team Liquid Crew.

Edit:

On December 22 2009 02:53 Steveh wrote:
how can anyone think this ban is harsh when there is thousands of dollars at stake


So true, people tend to forget it just because StarCraft is "just a game" but there is people competing very hard to earn that money. It is not fair to them.
I won
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
December 21 2009 19:11 GMT
#96
First steps to becoming more professional outside Korea. GJ.

Cheaters should furthermore become more aware that they ruin competition and spoil fun for others. Especially with a prize pool of $20,000+ cheating is disgraceful and malicious. You are not much short of stealing money.

With TSL3 and future events promising to be bigger at TL.net they will probably question themselves whether it was worth it.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 21 2009 19:13 GMT
#97
sigh it would've been better to announce punishments pre-TSL to deter these people
Writer
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 21 2009 19:14 GMT
#98
On December 22 2009 03:16 Djabanete wrote:
This was very well thought out. Good choices by TL mods. I think it's good to give one second chance, so a harsh penalty on the first offense followed by permaban on the second offense is a good balance. (Although I wouldn't have been upset by an immediate permaban on everyone who cheated, I do think this way is a lot better.)

i agree, but not with the rhetoric involving other sites/teams. if these organizations want to ban these players, fine, and that can be encouraged, but the whole idea of "if you dont ban them cause they cheated on our website's tournament, then youre supporting cheating!" repeated multiple times was a bit much.

and lol did you guys just compare yourself to the olympics
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
December 21 2009 19:18 GMT
#99
Seems that Yosh's 57-0 winning streak may have not really been legitimate. That's a shame.

Anyways, harsh punishments are good. Cheaters won't stop if they have nothing to lose. Good on the TL staff for that. Need to hammer it through that this is a big tournament with a big prize pool and abusing/cheating is a serious offense.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
December 21 2009 19:19 GMT
#100
great job guys, just keep cleaning the hall =)

tl.net for the future!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
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