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[TSL] TL Punishes Cheaters - Page 3

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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 21 2009 16:28 GMT
#41
Good job. Cheaters need to be punished severely.
Brood War loyalist
pRo9aMeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
595 Posts
December 21 2009 16:36 GMT
#42
I've always had absolutely NO respect for cheaters...I tip my hat to you TL, bravo!
In training...let's play, gg! d^..^b
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 16:37:44
December 21 2009 16:37 GMT
#43
thats even more harsh than I expected I thought they will get like 1 week TL ban + 3 month TL events ban ^^

Anyway, it's good, no matter how saddening it is.
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 16:41:58
December 21 2009 16:39 GMT
#44
On December 22 2009 00:27 TL.net Bot wrote:

For the past 10 years, the Starcraft community has created a culture of passivity towards cheating and abuse. There has been very little enforcement or accountability by tournament organizers, teams, and fans. It seemed as though as long as a player was good at Starcraft, he could get away with anything. It is a shame that such a great community could have such a huge flaw. This culture of leniency and apathy towards cheaters certainly contributed to the large numbers of high level players choosing to abuse in the recent TSL Ladder.

Ladder abuse is just as criminal as hacking. The end result is no different. An abuser is essentially stealing prize money from honest players and robbing the community of a worthwhile competition. TeamLiquid strongly values honest competition and fair play, and we have decided to use our TSL to send a message to the community that these sorts of actions are no longer acceptable.


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zergpower123
Profile Joined December 2009
United States197 Posts
December 21 2009 16:41 GMT
#45
well I hope the cheaters learn from this! With each TSL becoming bigger with more money on the line, sucks for them to miss out on TSL3! Maybe on TSL4 they will not abuse/cheat
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
December 21 2009 16:42 GMT
#46
On December 22 2009 01:11 Tazan_0 wrote:
Okay, normally I just lurk around here, never post much, but this thread is some of the most rage inciting garbage i've ever read. These players have put time into improving this website, and have contributed to the improvement of so many players here. I don't know about you, but watching scan stream has been one of the things that has most improved my play. If they played 3-4 games unfairly then fine, disqualify them from the TSL, but to ban their accounts from tl is to remove all contributions they provide to this website. I do not believe this is well thought out.


To temporary have them exiled as long as the penatly is in effect would be awesome actually haha.
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wifebeater
Profile Joined January 2008
178 Posts
December 21 2009 16:51 GMT
#47
Ban them for life! Fucking abusers/cheaters so sick of 'em!

Nice work TL-ppl.
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
December 21 2009 16:53 GMT
#48
Great.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 21 2009 16:54 GMT
#49
Finally, a strong (and hopefulle united) stand against cheaters.
Great job, I for one does not want to see a cheater win a single ICCUP game, yet qualify fo the freakin TSL!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
December 21 2009 16:55 GMT
#50
love you tl !!!

cheaters dont deserve anything less than this !
holyone
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal43 Posts
December 21 2009 17:00 GMT
#51
Congrats to all those LUCKY selected! u got urselfs a Nice TL vacations.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
December 21 2009 17:00 GMT
#52
ETA ON TSL3
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MuscLe
Profile Joined January 2009
United States29 Posts
December 21 2009 17:00 GMT
#53
DAMN. wow. That is really harsh, even TSL3 :O. But its good to see them punished.
Find a way to win.
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
December 21 2009 17:03 GMT
#54
I wonder what exactly is constituted as cheating. Did these players use maphacks etc. or did they trade wins with friends? The former should mean a lifetime ban, zero tolerance. The latter seems to be kind of a grey area, because then dodging could be constituted as cheating aswell.

I have no experience with playing ladders, so forgive me if I just said something extremely stupid.
This signature is ruining eSports.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 18:30:40
December 21 2009 17:05 GMT
#55
Wise decision at first sight. However a lot of questions here.
patyrykin.net
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
December 21 2009 17:06 GMT
#56
Good to see so strick line about cheaters and abusers.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 21 2009 17:07 GMT
#57
im proud to play a game where cheating got a zero tolerance, its good to see wgt,gg,tl and icc all being able to trust each other
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
December 21 2009 17:08 GMT
#58
wow tough.

but definitely gets the message across. i approve.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 21 2009 17:08 GMT
#59
--- Nuked ---
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1573 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 17:12:50
December 21 2009 17:10 GMT
#60
I would have warned players before the tournament, and if anyone caught, ban them for life, i think this should have been even more appropriate. And this is what we call Zero Tolerance.
But anyway it's already ok, hopefully we won't see in the future, "ho it's ok he said he won't do it again"
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
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