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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
December 23 2009 02:05 GMT
#281
now im wondering if F91 had already bought his ticket to go somewhere else so he could play outside of China. he said he abused so that it would fit his flight schedule, right? so now, he has to fly out for no reason (or cancel, but still he loses money)

and he must really love this tournament because he has to pay some cash up front (plane ticket) just for a chance at the gold.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 23 2009 02:47 GMT
#282
On December 23 2009 09:05 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Great job! TL staff is definitely one of the best of ANY staff on the entire internet.

couldnt agree more.
I won
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
December 23 2009 02:58 GMT
#283
A ban til the end of 2010? That practically ended these players's SC1 gaming career, ouch that's gotta hurt.
Great to see a move that promotes the integrity of the game.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
December 23 2009 06:00 GMT
#284
On December 23 2009 11:47 RaptorX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 09:05 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Great job! TL staff is definitely one of the best of ANY staff on the entire internet.

couldnt agree more.


I can honestly say (not just because I'm on staff, of course it looks like I'm biased) that I agree 100%. Having seen the staff from the sidelines as a regular member, then some 'behind the scenes' actions in the staff forums, I have never seen a more dedicated and hard working group of volunteers so committed to maintaining the highest levels of integrity and promote an image of competency in my life. The way the staff gels together and makes decisions is pretty amazing, especially in recent years where a few leaders have really surfaced (looking at Hot_Bid, Kennigit, Chill and Plexa here... these guys are truly amazing), as well as a host of others who come up with incredible ideas and just run with it.

I often feel bad I don't contribute an inkling compared to some of the guys (and gals!) on our staff; but with the raw talent some have, I think an old man like me would just be getting in the way.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 23 2009 08:11 GMT
#285
haha they post under TLbot
very smart :p
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
December 23 2009 09:34 GMT
#286
I'm stunned. I actually expected people to be outraged at how mild the punishments would be, not at how severe it was. Keep in mind that:

1) We don't know how many TL events will happen within the next 12 months. There might be a lot of events, a few, or maybe none at all. Of those events, if these abusers weren't banned, would they even be eligible, or even be available to play in these events?

2) Will these abusers still be playing Starcraft in 12 months? Will they still have interest in playing in TSL3 when it happens?

These punishments really only hurt the abusers if they still have an interest in participating in TL events. It's not as severe as some people make it out to be. Their accounts on TL aren't banned and they're still allowed to have links to their streaming page. They can still read, enjoy, and comment on all TL content that is provided by the same people that they tried to screw over (the TL organizers).

Personally, I think the punishment is just a slap on the wrist.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
December 23 2009 10:18 GMT
#287
Awesome job, really! Bringing down the banhammer!

It's very very sad to see so many good names on that list tbh... I just dont understand T_T
Mada Mada Dane
Heaven.ReV
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway86 Posts
December 23 2009 13:02 GMT
#288
Good job and a good decision, TL! :D
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
December 23 2009 14:37 GMT
#289
The decided punishments seem reasonable. I am also glad that rules for the future events were written. Hopefully different sites will work together regarding these matters.
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
December 23 2009 15:17 GMT
#290
On December 23 2009 18:34 soudo wrote:
I'm stunned. I actually expected people to be outraged at how mild the punishments would be, not at how severe it was. Keep in mind that:

1) We don't know how many TL events will happen within the next 12 months. There might be a lot of events, a few, or maybe none at all. Of those events, if these abusers weren't banned, would they even be eligible, or even be available to play in these events?

2) Will these abusers still be playing Starcraft in 12 months? Will they still have interest in playing in TSL3 when it happens?

These punishments really only hurt the abusers if they still have an interest in participating in TL events. It's not as severe as some people make it out to be. Their accounts on TL aren't banned and they're still allowed to have links to their streaming page. They can still read, enjoy, and comment on all TL content that is provided by the same people that they tried to screw over (the TL organizers).

Personally, I think the punishment is just a slap on the wrist.


It's not severe at all. I would dare to say that none of them really cared.
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
December 23 2009 16:56 GMT
#291
Well, i've got some time, so I may as well make a statement.

Firstly I want to say that being banned from TSL3 and TL events for 8 months blows, and i've totally lost all motivation to play now. Infact i've played one game in the last week, but thats partly because they have been working me long hours at work too.

I don't want to sound like an idiot, or make excuses for myself, but hey at this point i've got nothing to lose. I've been playing with yosh for 2 years now. Out of all the people on bw I would play with him the most, talk to him the most, and he would coach me. He is honestly an incredibly nice guy, and no matter how much bashing you fags do, you won't ever be able to take that away from him.

And as far as free winning for Yosh ? I didn't even think twice about it because it was just like another practice game against him for me. Sure, it was me vs him smurf account, but we had already been sharing another one of his accounts earlier in the season, so it didn't feel any different. I tried my very best to win against him, and I actually almost won game 2. So if I had used my account instead of his smurf account things would be different, but I wanted to end the season with A- on RaNgeD.

I don't know if i'll quit, or just take a break for now. (Not that any of you care)
Bring on the flame..
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
Heaven.ReV
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway86 Posts
December 23 2009 18:09 GMT
#292
On December 24 2009 01:56 RaNgeD wrote:
Well, i've got some time, so I may as well make a statement.

Firstly I want to say that being banned from TSL3 and TL events for 8 months blows, and i've totally lost all motivation to play now. Infact i've played one game in the last week, but thats partly because they have been working me long hours at work too.

I don't want to sound like an idiot, or make excuses for myself, but hey at this point i've got nothing to lose. I've been playing with yosh for 2 years now. Out of all the people on bw I would play with him the most, talk to him the most, and he would coach me. He is honestly an incredibly nice guy, and no matter how much bashing you fags do, you won't ever be able to take that away from him.

And as far as free winning for Yosh ? I didn't even think twice about it because it was just like another practice game against him for me. Sure, it was me vs him smurf account, but we had already been sharing another one of his accounts earlier in the season, so it didn't feel any different. I tried my very best to win against him, and I actually almost won game 2. So if I had used my account instead of his smurf account things would be different, but I wanted to end the season with A- on RaNgeD.

I don't know if i'll quit, or just take a break for now. (Not that any of you care)
Bring on the flame..


Don't want to flame, but even though it wasn't exactly a surprise you'd do something like this, it's still sad to see you didn't learn from previous experiences. I sincerely hope you've learned this time and get back to some clean and good gaming later on =D

(kudos for the post and not making any excuses)
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 23 2009 18:29 GMT
#293
On December 24 2009 01:56 RaNgeD wrote:
Well, i've got some time, so I may as well make a statement.

Firstly I want to say that being banned from TSL3 and TL events for 8 months blows, and i've totally lost all motivation to play now. Infact i've played one game in the last week, but thats partly because they have been working me long hours at work too.

I don't want to sound like an idiot, or make excuses for myself, but hey at this point i've got nothing to lose. I've been playing with yosh for 2 years now. Out of all the people on bw I would play with him the most, talk to him the most, and he would coach me. He is honestly an incredibly nice guy, and no matter how much bashing you fags do, you won't ever be able to take that away from him.

And as far as free winning for Yosh ? I didn't even think twice about it because it was just like another practice game against him for me. Sure, it was me vs him smurf account, but we had already been sharing another one of his accounts earlier in the season, so it didn't feel any different. I tried my very best to win against him, and I actually almost won game 2. So if I had used my account instead of his smurf account things would be different, but I wanted to end the season with A- on RaNgeD.

I don't know if i'll quit, or just take a break for now. (Not that any of you care)
Bring on the flame..


Thanks for not making excuses and we all know most of these guys are nice guys but I hope you understand like most of us that cheating is not welcomed here and that even though the punishment might seem harsh it is what we need to keep this community clean and fun.

I dont know you, havent seen you play or anything but I hope you dont quit.
We are the best SC community out there, and we are trying to keep it that way. Thats the only reason I agree with the punishment. I have nothing personal against these guys or you and I bet most of us dont even really know them but doing what they did is not cool... thats all.
I won
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 23 2009 21:01 GMT
#294
nice work
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 21:49:19
December 23 2009 21:48 GMT
#295
nice work ranged
Entusman #12
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
December 24 2009 06:48 GMT
#296
Hell, it's about time.
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
December 24 2009 13:38 GMT
#297
If Starcraft wants to remain on top in terms of competetiveness, absolutely everything has to be done to prevent cheating, hacking and abusing.

Full support from my side TL.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
RiZn
Profile Joined March 2009
United States22 Posts
December 24 2009 16:53 GMT
#298
it's funny how the only way we can comment is through here- is there anyway we can directly email or talk to the person who is in charge of TSL? i would like to contact them directly regarding one of the players
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 17:44:48
December 24 2009 17:40 GMT
#299
pm me, Hot_bid or hrn)insane
But if you are contacting us to complain about the ban, don't bother wasting your time
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 20:08:40
December 24 2009 20:08 GMT
#300
On December 25 2009 01:53 RiZn wrote:
it's funny how the only way we can comment is through here- is there anyway we can directly email or talk to the person who is in charge of TSL? i would like to contact them directly regarding one of the players


If by here you mean this web site then yeah, the thing is that the whole thing was done through here... if you mean the thread then I think you just have to PM the administrators that are on TSL.

edit:
oops didnt see you plexa!
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