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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 22 2009 10:55 GMT
#241
On December 22 2009 19:45 Mooncat wrote:
I'm not very familiar with ladder abuse/cheating. Can anyone tell me what these guys did exactly?


There have been around 50 like you who come in a random topic and ask the same questions. How about reading the Pokerstrategy.com TSL Forum and answer your own question? Put some goddamn effort into it if you want to know something.

Consider this a warning (also to anyone else who's gonna ask the same questions over and over again).
Moderator
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 22 2009 11:06 GMT
#242
wow awesome
Groslouser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France337 Posts
December 22 2009 11:51 GMT
#243
Good job TL.
God, we've waited a lont time for this tournament to come, cheaters should not spoil it. A pity several great names are out of it though, i expected more from them.
m3k
Profile Joined March 2009
Ukraine1 Post
December 22 2009 12:22 GMT
#244
Great ladder! Guys like Morrow get top places, whereas much better players don't get much points because nobody wants to play with them.
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
December 22 2009 12:28 GMT
#245
On December 22 2009 21:22 m3k wrote:
Great ladder! Guys like Morrow get top places, whereas much better players don't get much points because nobody wants to play with them.



sry absolut stupid

look white-ra and co they find always enemys

sure if u dodge top20 u have problems LOL ...
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
December 22 2009 12:33 GMT
#246
Good job and great initiative. I agree 100% with the rules.

It still pisses me off to see f91 as banned -.- I still cant belive he did it, i thought it was so awesome that a chinese player was taking part of a foreigner tournament but then he fucks it all up... Its so fucking stupid, if he had just said "fuck it, lets see how it goes" he would have been in the top 12 anyway...
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 22 2009 13:50 GMT
#247
Harsh but abusers should be punished.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
December 22 2009 14:09 GMT
#248
While I agree with the punishment, I think the degree of penalties should have been made public much earlier, to act as a deterrent. Probably some of these players would still be in the tournament.
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 14:19:29
December 22 2009 14:18 GMT
#249
There should be zero need to state that you will get punished if you cheat, what the hell?

<3 TL. About time SC community got serious towards cheating.
<3
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 22 2009 14:19 GMT
#250
On December 22 2009 23:09 Maenander wrote:
While I agree with the punishment, I think the degree of penalties should have been made public much earlier, to act as a deterrent. Probably some of these players would still be in the tournament.
Eh well we said that if they violated our rule set we reserved the right to disqualify them. That's a pretty big deterrent right there. And then we disqualified A2 and Pomi and announced that as soon as we got it - and still people tried to cheat the system. Do you really beleive if we had changed that one sentence to include "reserve the right to disqualify cheaters from TSL2, TSL3 and for 12 months" we would have changed anything? Most likely they saw the disqualification as an empty threat due to their "star factor" (i.e. why would we dq A2 when he beat jaedong!11!1!!). Regardless, it is a shame that we even need to be considering putting up deterrents - our community really should be better than this.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
December 22 2009 15:37 GMT
#251
So much awful reasoning here from defenders of the cheaters. And by defenders I mean people with below 100 posts who are friends with the cheaters, call themselves lurkers, and make preposterous supporting arguments.

My first impression on reading the OP was that it was too lenient.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44401 Posts
December 22 2009 15:37 GMT
#252
Lol
I never knew blacks lag buses.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
December 22 2009 16:01 GMT
#253
On December 23 2009 00:37 cz wrote:
My first impression on reading the OP was that it was too lenient.


That's what I thought. I would hand out life time bans for everyone who cheated even once. There are so many skilled players who don't cheat and would never do. There is absolutely no need for cheaters.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 16:05:08
December 22 2009 16:03 GMT
#254
So is there some unnannounced event happening in 8 to 12 months from now? :p
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 17:08:59
December 22 2009 17:08 GMT
#255
On December 23 2009 01:03 Espers wrote:
So is there some unnannounced event happening in 8 to 12 months from now? :p


I would not be surprised if TL make the first SC2 Tournament when its still on beta (near the end, when things will not change too much).

In fact, that would be pretty dam cool.
-*-
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
December 22 2009 17:08 GMT
#256
I know atleast 2 players who is crying right about now. God I love TL. This is warming my black hearth!
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
December 22 2009 17:21 GMT
#257
On December 22 2009 15:10 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 14:51 sharkeyanti wrote:
spacebarbrokenTT....agree.with.punishments...correct.your.grammar.next.time...
impact.is.not.a.verb...penultimate.means.second.to.last

i agree with penultimate, but impact can definitely be a verb. try to at least make sure your criticisms are valid before you hit post.


Well, five years ago impact was not a verb. I guess I'm still in a world where the dictionary doesn't really change . Thanks for pointing it out.
Hi Mom
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
December 22 2009 17:22 GMT
#258
Good job.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 22 2009 17:28 GMT
#259
On December 23 2009 02:21 sharkeyanti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 15:10 LosingID8 wrote:
On December 22 2009 14:51 sharkeyanti wrote:
spacebarbrokenTT....agree.with.punishments...correct.your.grammar.next.time...
impact.is.not.a.verb...penultimate.means.second.to.last

i agree with penultimate, but impact can definitely be a verb. try to at least make sure your criticisms are valid before you hit post.


Well, five years ago impact was not a verb. I guess I'm still in a world where the dictionary doesn't really change . Thanks for pointing it out.

not to gangbang you, but that world never existed.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Prose
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada314 Posts
December 22 2009 18:03 GMT
#260
I think friends, compatriots, and fans of these cheaters feel.... cheated.

The punishments are just. I agree with TL's decisions.
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