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Netherlands13554 Posts
On December 22 2009 19:45 Mooncat wrote:
I'm not very familiar with ladder abuse/cheating. Can anyone tell me what these guys did exactly?
There have been around 50 like you who come in a random topic and ask the same questions. How about reading the Pokerstrategy.com TSL Forum and answer your own question? Put some goddamn effort into it if you want to know something.
Consider this a warning (also to anyone else who's gonna ask the same questions over and over again).
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Good job TL.
God, we've waited a lont time for this tournament to come, cheaters should not spoil it. A pity several great names are out of it though, i expected more from them.
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Great ladder! Guys like Morrow get top places, whereas much better players don't get much points because nobody wants to play with them.
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On December 22 2009 21:22 m3k wrote:
Great ladder! Guys like Morrow get top places, whereas much better players don't get much points because nobody wants to play with them.
sry absolut stupid
look white-ra and co they find always enemys
sure if u dodge top20 u have problems LOL ...
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Good job and great initiative. I agree 100% with the rules.
It still pisses me off to see f91 as banned -.- I still cant belive he did it, i thought it was so awesome that a chinese player was taking part of a foreigner tournament but then he fucks it all up... Its so fucking stupid, if he had just said "fuck it, lets see how it goes" he would have been in the top 12 anyway...
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Harsh but abusers should be punished.
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While I agree with the punishment, I think the degree of penalties should have been made public much earlier, to act as a deterrent. Probably some of these players would still be in the tournament.
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There should be zero need to state that you will get punished if you cheat, what the hell?
<3 TL. About time SC community got serious towards cheating.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 22 2009 23:09 Maenander wrote:
While I agree with the punishment, I think the degree of penalties should have been made public much earlier, to act as a deterrent. Probably some of these players would still be in the tournament. Eh well we said that if they violated our rule set we reserved the right to disqualify them. That's a pretty big deterrent right there. And then we disqualified A2 and Pomi and announced that as soon as we got it - and still people tried to cheat the system. Do you really beleive if we had changed that one sentence to include "reserve the right to disqualify cheaters from TSL2, TSL3 and for 12 months" we would have changed anything? Most likely they saw the disqualification as an empty threat due to their "star factor" (i.e. why would we dq A2 when he beat jaedong!11!1!!). Regardless, it is a shame that we even need to be considering putting up deterrents - our community really should be better than this.
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So much awful reasoning here from defenders of the cheaters. And by defenders I mean people with below 100 posts who are friends with the cheaters, call themselves lurkers, and make preposterous supporting arguments.
My first impression on reading the OP was that it was too lenient.
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United States44046 Posts
Lol
I never knew blacks lag buses.
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On December 23 2009 00:37 cz wrote:
My first impression on reading the OP was that it was too lenient.
That's what I thought. I would hand out life time bans for everyone who cheated even once. There are so many skilled players who don't cheat and would never do. There is absolutely no need for cheaters.
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So is there some unnannounced event happening in 8 to 12 months from now? :p
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On December 23 2009 01:03 Espers wrote:
So is there some unnannounced event happening in 8 to 12 months from now? :p
I would not be surprised if TL make the first SC2 Tournament when its still on beta (near the end, when things will not change too much).
In fact, that would be pretty dam cool.
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I know atleast 2 players who is crying right about now. God I love TL. This is warming my black hearth!
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On December 22 2009 15:10 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2009 14:51 sharkeyanti wrote:
spacebarbrokenTT....agree.with.punishments...correct.your.grammar.next.time...
impact.is.not.a.verb...penultimate.means.second.to.last i agree with penultimate, but impact can definitely be a verb. try to at least make sure your criticisms are valid before you hit post.
Well, five years ago impact was not a verb. I guess I'm still in a world where the dictionary doesn't really change  . Thanks for pointing it out.
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Canada9720 Posts
On December 23 2009 02:21 sharkeyanti wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2009 15:10 LosingID8 wrote:On December 22 2009 14:51 sharkeyanti wrote:
spacebarbrokenTT....agree.with.punishments...correct.your.grammar.next.time...
impact.is.not.a.verb...penultimate.means.second.to.last i agree with penultimate, but impact can definitely be a verb. try to at least make sure your criticisms are valid before you hit post. Well, five years ago impact was not a verb. I guess I'm still in a world where the dictionary doesn't really change . Thanks for pointing it out.
not to gangbang you, but that world never existed.
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I think friends, compatriots, and fans of these cheaters feel.... cheated.
The punishments are just. I agree with TL's decisions.
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