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[PL] A Class Act
September 27th, 2009 23:09 GMT
Shinhan Proleague 2008/2009 Allstar Match Coverage by Team Liquid The collective laughter of a thousand fans could be heard from miles away as they guffawed, their chuckling echoing through Seoul and over the Internet to the rest of the world via IRC and livestream chats. From the opening team game madness to the grudge match played by two of the game's titans, the Broodwar Circus was by all accounts a massive success.
As the confetti settled and the lights dimmed, the audience, whether around the arena or in their homes far away were all smiles, for they had come to be entertained, and entertained they had been. Team Challenge had won, but in reality it was the fans who were the real victors. Among other things, they had got to see Broodwar's greatest rivalry play out yet again, and in the process had enjoyed the many side acts of the evening as well.
"We have two bonjwas, the best Protoss in the world, and a ton of Terrans. We lose this, nobody's going home, ok? Ever."
Fast and Furious It began with the motorcycles in the metal sphere: the fast, intense, non-stop action of 3v3 starting off the night. Up against a team of offracing Protosses, Boxer's team of 3 Terrans opened with 2 rax builds, putting the heat on with a quick 3 player marine rush that headed straight for Yellow. Greatly outnumbered, and with his allies teching, it seemed Yellow would be eliminated early, but he insisted on a fight. Dragoons and probes took on the marines, and with some fantastic micro, put a major dent in their numbers, although the probe losses too, were significant. Eventually, with some help from Upmagic, Yellow cleared his main of errant marines and an offensive bunker.
Following the failure of the 2 rax shenanigans of the Terrans, the Protoss team took over the reigns of the game with their superior tech. Unsurprisingly, the Terran bases quickly fell one by one to an onslaught of dragoons, zealots, and to rub salt into the wound, DTs.
Yellow and friends paying back Boxer for years of bunker rushes with the tried and tested 12a3a4a™ method. With their mains ravaged, Boxer and Baby sought refuge in Iris' walled up main. However, they would not find safety there, as reavers were flown in to lay waste to mining SCVs, while the combined Protoss armies broke through the defenses up front. With 4 stargate corsairs from Upmagic coming to wipe up the remnants of the floating Terran buildings, the Terrans typed out of the first game, and fans rushed to Broodwar to make TvP Imbalanced threads.
Wheel of War Next up was the trapeze act, the relay match, with players taking turns at the computer every time an in-game message appeared. An RvR on Andromeda, the Challenge team randomed Protoss against Passion's Terran. The game quickly headed towards a macro battle, Sea opting for a 12 nexus opening, and Free responding with a CC after a vulture. The game picked up slightly, when after a 4th base and arbiter tech, Challenge, once again under the control of Sea, executed a recall into Passion's main. Fortunately it was cleared out shortly after, and Passion re-established their defensive lines.
At the hands of Luxury, Challenge's huge army was then sent charging straight into Passion's wall of 20 or so tanks, only to be forced into retreat with major losses. Capitalising on this mistake, Passion, now manoeuvred by Leta, unsieged and headed towards the Protoss expoes. A swift and decisive counter was perhaps Luxury's only hope of redeeming himself, and he ordered an attack into Passion's nat, only to have his army decimated by the returning Terran army. Just as it looked like Challenge would be undone by Luxury's folly, the observer panned through Challenge's main, and 6 flashing stargates, accompanied by a fleet beacon were found.
"So then you build the fleet beacon..." What ensued was simply a rehash of any PvT in which Protoss had built up a critical number of carriers. Mass goliaths and tanks were eventually worn down by carriers and storm, and with harass taking out their economy, Passion was unable to maintain the production of their units. After the final battle that featured an interceptor lockdown, a missed nuke, and lots of dead goliaths, Challenge recalled carriers into the last Passion mining base, drawing the GG.
One thing to note was that much like a trapeze act, the game progressed seamlessly between players. There were no obvious conflicts in style or technical hiccups. The game flowed as a 1v1 normally would, and made for a very pleasant, captivating watch. Kudos KeSPA!
Clown Country Anyway, on to the next match, Savior vs Flash on Outsider. Savior opened very standard with a 3 hatch muta build while Flash opted for something different, going for fast vessels and 4 rax, after opening with a factory and vulture. Savior's muta harass showed signs of old brilliance, as he sniped off marines and turrets, separating his mutas almost immediately when they got irradiated. When the muta numbers were sufficiently dwindled, Savior had 5 hatches, 3 fully saturated bases with 4 gas, and lurkers out.
Flash then revealed his master plan, a nuke silo briefly visible before a floating ebay hid it from view. Probably expecting a more sunken heavy, defensive style zerg play, Flash, unfortunately, met heavy resistance from Savior's lurkers, and with just marine medic, he was in a poor position. His only hope, a ghost carrying dropship, was spotted by an expansion hatchery, and he was forced to unleash his nuke on the droneless expansion. A second nuke, targeted at Savior's lurkers then hit a majority of his army in the middle of the map.
Shortly after, in a moment of lunacy, Flash challenged Savior to attack him. Savior obliged, and armed with queens and a huge army of hydras and lurkers, he crushed the puny Terran defenses at Flash's newly taken nat. Flash responded by quipping that Savior was taking it far too seriously.
"Why so srs with hydralurk, bro?" In the final moments of the game, the fatal siren was heard and a nuke unexpectedly landed on Flash's CC. A GG from Flash brought this fun filled, non-serious game to a fitting comic end.
High Noon Halfway through the event the mystery match was called, and as predicted, the shootout was to be between the long-time rivals, Lim Yo Hwan and Hong Jin Ho. Long time rivals, and one would say friends (though one might also say with friends like these, who needs enemies), Boxer and YellOw's history goes back to Coca-Cola. Their most talked about meeting of course is the EVER 04 Semi-Finals where Boxer famously triple bunker rushed the Storm Zerg. Apparently, progamers don't forget easily, something that Waxangel's pregame translations clearly highlight.
Boxer: "When we were playing the team game, Leta interefered so I couldn't get rid of Yellow, but I'll take care of that now." Editor's note - Welcome to Trashtalk 101, kids.
Yellow: "Well, I was 3v1'd, so I did need some help from magic, but if it was just Boxer, it would have been pretty easy."
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Yellow: "Well boxer's kind of a tool like that, wanting to bunker rush me all the time but hiding it behind all that deception."
[...] Boxer: "Well, I'm glad Yellow managed to survive this far, for our Xth Boxer vs Yellow match."
"So sports fans, no love loss here, amirite?" The continuation of the saga between our two valiant heroes took place on the dusty alleys of Heartbreak Ridge, an appropriate arena for yet another match in the duo's eight year long history. "Emperor of cheese?", Yellow questioned, as his scouting drone found Boxer's barracks hidden behind his nat. Yes, he would know about that, for years ago, he had been the victim of bunker rushes, SCV all ins, proxy raxes, you name it. Boxer could only smile to himself, for today, he had prepared something different, as seen when he started a factory and an expansion soon after. In response, Yellow began a hydra den off of 2 hatcheries, looking to fool boxer into overcommitting to defense while droning up and surprising him with 3 hatch mutas. As the mutas spawned and made their way to Boxer's main, they were, unfortunately, spotted by a couple of vultures, but arrived in Boxer's main before the completion of turrets anyway. There, they unleashed their fury on Boxer's units, raining glaive wurms upon anything that moved. It looked as if the game might end here, but Boxer eventually built up enough goliaths, and Yellow's classic overaggressive play proceeded to lose him a lot of mutas before he flew to safety. The game then proceeded with both players macroing up, Yellow taking a 4th base and heading towards hive, and Boxer harassing with lots of vultures. The vultures did some pretty good damage, hitting Yellow's third base for a good number of drones, and catching a bunch of them maynarding to the 4th, and in the meantime, Boxer established a third base and planted mines everywhere. With hive tech out, and a 5th base coming up, Yellow seemed to be in a pretty commanding position, having shrugged off Boxer's last attempts at vulture harass. Sadly, he had elected to go for a combination of hydras, lurkers and defilers, a poor choice against mech compared to the usual hydra muta mix. An attack at Boxer's third was stopped cold by siege tanks and goliaths, and the following drop on Boxer's main, despite some minor success was similarly negated. Insisting on his old, obsolete ways, Yellow continued with his swarm, hydralurk usage with increasingly poor results, even suiciding a whole group of lurkers into a handful of mines and tanks for no absolutely no damage, prompting Boxer to thank him for his efforts. With Boxer slowly but surely spreading his influence across the map, expanding across the top side, things were starting to look bleak for Yellow, especially with his 5th gas base constantly being taken out. After losing a tonne of hydras, lings, lurkers and defilers in more suicidal attacks into Boxer's defensive set ups, Yellow finally wised up and spawned some mutas. However, whatever minor damage they did, before irradiate and 3/3 goliaths cleaned them up, was unable to pull Yellow back from the massive lead that Boxer possessed. A couple of minutes later, Yellow GGed as his minerals dried out, and his final army drenched the battlefield in pools of alien blood. With that, the duel was over, and yet as they walked away, both players, and indeed us as fans could only think of one thing - when and how, and on what turf they would meet again, for as we all know, Starcraft's greatest rivalry never gets old, and even a showmatch like this between Lim and Hong made the entire event worth watching. Fire Eater Next up was Stork vs Fantasy, which opened with a 12 nexus against a CC after factory. Fantasy's first vultures netted a number of probe kills, and he chose to double expo with 1 factory, assuming that Stork would be similarly, taking his third base. Unfortunately, Stork had something else planned. On 4 gateways, he conjured up 2 shuttles, and loaded them with zealots. With Fantasy still in the dark, his attack came swift and deadly, as the shuttles ferried zealots behind Fantasy's wall to take out defending tanks, while goons pounded on, and eventually took out the wall.
Amazingly, Fantasy was able to defend for the time being, but Stork, with his 2 shuttles now full of dragoons, simply camped above Fantasy's factories and took out any new tanks. Then after building up a suitable number of dragoons, Stork waltzed into Fantasy's nat, stealing the game. Great, well thought-out strategy by Stork, not allowing Fantasy to get into the harass play that he is strong in and ending the game early with a specific timing attack designed to punish a greedy Terran.
Stork has been playing well lately, but we must say he even outdid himself here. Sure, the guy has a 67% PvT win ratio, we know that. Still, his double shuttle goon micro was completely off the hook, and this game is worth watching for that alone. Although Fantasy did attempt some copycat tank in dropship shenanigans, from build through execution and unit control, it was Stork's game from the get go.
Anti-Climax If all the games up to this point were at least above average in terms of entertainment value, the most second most hyped game of the night was a complete let down. Bisu played like Bisu, and Jaedong played like he just wanted to go home. Starting off with a pretty standard 9pool opening, The Tyrant went on to almost lose his expansion to Bisu's well executed pre-lurker timing attack, and then was too aggressive on his opponent's bridges and got completely overrun by zeal archon.
"Become the world's best Zerg, they said..." It was a bad game, without a doubt the worst of the night, and I'm sure we're not alone when we say that we felt slightly robbed. Up till this point, Allstars was good, nay great, and we really couldn't think of better players to give us a stellar finish to the evening.
Having said that, disappointments are a part of Broodwar, and to be honest, we don't have a lot to complain about. We got to see Boxer vs Yellow, a crazy 3v3 and a Relay War which can only be described as awesome. We hope they feature it again next year because from Leta looking at the big screen to Sea walking over and checking out his opponents' monitor in person, it gave us by far the most outrageous game of the year.
On that note we leave you, dear reader, to sit back and count the days until Proleague starts on October 10th. 2008-09 was a great year for the team league, and we're sure 2009-10 is going to be even better. So, catch up on that sleep, stock up on those energy drinks, and get ready for a year of the best this game has to offer. See you soon!
Brought to you by the Team Liquid Proleague Coverage Team - riptide, heyoka and pangshai. Thanks to Waxangel for translating the entirety of Saturday's event, pachi for the coverage banner and Fomos and Daily Esports for the pics.
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Yellow never had dragoon range. His cybernetics core got destroyed by Boxer.
Orange is UpMagiC dude. Yellow never had anything to 1a2a3a with.
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Haven't seen the 3v3 match yet but the relaymatch was awesome Can't wait for next season ^^
Edit: and nice writeup btw x)
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On September 28 2009 08:20 .risingdragoon wrote: Yellow never had dragoon range. His cybernetics core got destroyed by Boxer.
Orange is UpMagiC dude. Yellow never had anything to 1a2a3a with. Thanks, but I really didn't mean that literally. Fixed, anyway!
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Stork's play alone made this thing worth watching, for me.
I really wish I someone would post VODs with English subtitles during in-game smack talk
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I didn't find the Jaedong v. Bisu match to be so bad. It was pretty one-sided though.
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Man this All Star set was so entertaining! Nice write up! I wish I saw it live though.
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On September 28 2009 08:35 riptide wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2009 08:20 .risingdragoon wrote: Yellow never had dragoon range. His cybernetics core got destroyed by Boxer.
Orange is UpMagiC dude. Yellow never had anything to 1a2a3a with. Thanks, but I really didn't mean that literally.  Fixed, anyway!
Really? Cus Yellow got rushed and didn't do much that game. But you'd think Yellow was owning it up from reading your writeup: Yellow cleared his main, yellow and friends paying back boxer... Yellow had like 2 units in both cases. That's some Dustin Browder "he's scouting!! hes so good!!!!" sensationalism if I ever heard one.
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On September 28 2009 08:59 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2009 08:35 riptide wrote:On September 28 2009 08:20 .risingdragoon wrote: Yellow never had dragoon range. His cybernetics core got destroyed by Boxer.
Orange is UpMagiC dude. Yellow never had anything to 1a2a3a with. Thanks, but I really didn't mean that literally.  Fixed, anyway! Really? Cus Yellow got rushed and didn't do much that game. But you'd think Yellow was owning it up from reading your writeup: Yellow cleared his main, yellow and friends paying back boxer... Yellow had like 2 units in both cases. That's some Dustin Browder "he's scouting!! hes so good!!!!" sensationalism if I ever heard one. I have fixed the factual error you mentioned in Pangshai's analysis of the game - Yellow getting range.The picture caption was tongue-in-cheek , not meant to be taken literally, but I changed that to Yellow's and friends in any case, by which I mean Yellow and his team.
I don't know how you read this as sensationalism, because nowhere does it mention Yellow owning it up as you put it - "Eventually, with some help from Upmagic, Yellow cleared his main of errant marines and an offensive bunker", how that makes it look like Yellow is in an advantageous position is beyond me. I also don't understand how saying Yellow and his friends were paying back Boxer is hype or misinformation, because that is what was happening.
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yellow couldn't have cleared his main cus there was a bunker in there
only dragoon range can outrange the bunker and clear his main
should I continue?
it was calm who said, 6 and upmagic responded 66 to sack boxer. if you wanted flair you coulda said the team avenged boxer's weasel 3-on-1 on yellow by taking it to him hard, and yellow got even later by doing a reaver drop and expoing at boxer's spawn point, pylon surround, etc.
did you watch the game btw?
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haha that was amazing! pray they do it again
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Canada5565 Posts
jaedong loses, so naturally the excuses come pouring in
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On September 28 2009 09:22 .risingdragoon wrote: yellow couldn't have cleared his main cus there was a bunker in there
only dragoon range can outrange the bunker and clear his main
should I continue?
it was calm who said, 6 and upmagic responded 66 to sack boxer. if you wanted flair you coulda said the team avenged boxer's weasel 3-on-1 on yellow by taking it to him hard, and yellow got even later by doing a reaver drop and expoing at boxer's spawn point, pylon surround, etc.
did you watch the game btw? Just calm down mate, I watched the games as well and found riptide's writeup accurate. You have to realise that this event was fun and hence the writeup will be a bit fun. And if you look it says "Eventually, with some help from Upmagic, Yellow cleared his main of errant marines and an offensive bunker." as riptide said, how does that suggest that YellOw took it out on his own?
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Sigh, dude. It says with help from Upmagic. In other words, Upmagic helped Yellow clear out his main, which is what happened. I watched the game and see no problem in how pangshai has written it up. Yellow couldn't outrange the bunker, that doesn't mean he didn't help in clearing out his own main. It is Yellow who clears up the last few marines after the bunker goes down. In fact, when the bunker does go down, there are no Upmagic goons in Yellow's base.
Your other complaint seems to be that I've used Yellow and friends instead of team. I'm not even going to reply to that, because I don't see a difference at all. I'm aware of how the attack on Boxer played out, and if we're going to nitpick I am factually correct even there because Yellow did have some goons there as well. It was Upmagic who did the damage, sure, but when I said Yellow and friends I meant the team, so that includes Upmagic and Calm.
In any case, if you want to continue this, let's move to PM rather than derail this thread further.
And yes, of course I watch every game we cover.
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I just watched it again, upmagic shot the bunker on fire with range, but some extra marines pushed him back. he took them out with micro then pulled back. it was yellow who sent his 3 goons to kill the bunker.
and the attack on boxer yellow had 0 units there, but I digress. I know what you're trying to do by writing from that angle, I'm a journalist. by writing yellow up, who couldn't really do much til reaver, got pissed off and threw the later game, the article missed out some really good writing points and suffered - the dt, the 6 66 chat, the 2-player reaver drop, etc.
I'm critisizing the favoritism that made the writeup worse. It's not personal.
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Great matches! The 3vs3 was epic, the relay was cool and I hope that we see it again, I lol'd at Flash's attempts to nuke Savior, Boxer vs Yellow = amazing, enjoyed seeing fantasy being steamrolled by stork, and then was kind of disapointed watching the bisu vs jaedong game =/
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.risingdragoon reminds me of the flash vs savior game... why so serious?
great article. and I agree the finale failed to deliver as an all-star game for me.
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I really didn't find JD/Bisu to be disappointing - it was pretty much what I've come to expect from their games: Someone gets a small advantage early and proceeds to ride it to an absolute rape. All 4 games of the Gom Special Match (we do not talk about the game-5-that-never-happened) followed basically that pattern. They're both so good that a small slip early is usually fatal.
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yah, the Bisu vs Jaedong game was very dissapointing but great write-up!
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Excellent writeup! I only got to see the 3v3, I'll definitely check out Flash nuking himself lol. And chill out, risingdragoon.
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nice writeup riptide! i loved it
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On September 28 2009 09:32 Xxio wrote: jaedong loses, so naturally the excuses come pouring in Just go away, no one wants to argue over this.
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great writeup with lots of epicness and yeah risingdragn just chill out
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Nice Writeup, I really hope someone will subtitle the vods completely (please anyone with sufficient koreans skills I beg your talents!) so we can see what hilarious commentary we missed. Some of the things you could obviously get the gist of, especially when boxer wrote "Thx" haha. Great Games overall, the relay match was my favorite because the players looked like they were having so much fun. I'm really glad Stork owned Fantasy too because fantasy was so damn predictable.
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Yeh vods with subtitles of the smack talk would be really good. Yellows hydra bomb was awesome.
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It was all good until the seriousness of 1v1s kicked in ><;;
ALL STAR IS ALL ABOUT THE CHATS DAMNIT!!
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Well Ghost are pretty hard to use. Hopefully Leta can show us something next season.
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On September 28 2009 08:59 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2009 08:35 riptide wrote:On September 28 2009 08:20 .risingdragoon wrote: Yellow never had dragoon range. His cybernetics core got destroyed by Boxer.
Orange is UpMagiC dude. Yellow never had anything to 1a2a3a with. Thanks, but I really didn't mean that literally.  Fixed, anyway! Really? Cus Yellow got rushed and didn't do much that game. But you'd think Yellow was owning it up from reading your writeup: Yellow cleared his main, yellow and friends paying back boxer... Yellow had like 2 units in both cases. That's some Dustin Browder "he's scouting!! hes so good!!!!" sensationalism if I ever heard one. Once I read the name of the poster of this comment I had to face-palm and say "no wonder".
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played some relay with my friends right after this... its really fun, and it allows for better play with a big variety of skill levels.
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"On 4 gateways, he conjured up 2 shuttles, and loaded them with zealots. " God he's so unoriginal :D
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The letdown for me was Flash vs sAviOr, I was hoping that would be a serious game t.t
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Tag team starcraft, what a great idea for an all star match
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Boxer and Yellow should start their own TV channel where they play a Bo5 every day. They'd be rich, and I'd be happy.
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On September 28 2009 09:32 Xxio wrote: jaedong loses, so naturally the excuses come pouring in LOOOOOL. 3v3 was my personal fav; LOVE THE SHIT TALK HAHA
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On September 28 2009 13:34 0neder wrote: Boxer and Yellow should start their own TV channel where they play a Bo5 every day. They'd be rich, and I'd be happy.
sure.why not?you like watching bunker rushes every other game?
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Flash vs sAviOr game with all the nukes stole the show for me.
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Thanks for the writeup, dude. Very well done! Gotta love the picture-comments!
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WHERE ARE VODS!?
I feel like crying each time I dont find them :C
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On September 28 2009 09:32 Xxio wrote: jaedong loses, so naturally the excuses come pouring in
is this anticipatory fanboy bashing or something? you've beaten them to the punch.
quite a dissapointing match, I was looking forward to it all day...maybe all month when I actually think about it.
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Its all about stork tearing apart fantasy. All the other all stars match doesn't matter =D
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On September 28 2009 17:08 MuffinDude wrote: Its all about stork tearing apart fantasy. All the other all stars match doesn't matter =D
that match definitely was awesome, amazing shuttle play, who's the real terrorist?
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Excellent captions, loved the additional pictures. Fantastic write-up.
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I can't believe I missed this but damn, the results are sooo great...
fantasy losing to stork - no fault it fantasy's part, stork has great PvT...
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Sorry, Bisu vs Jaedong wasn't boring nor it was JD wanting to go home asap. Just look at his face while that game. He was MAD at what happened that was fucking obvious to see. Bisu just played brilliantly, Jaedong thought Bisu would probably go Reaver / Sair again. Also I don't think anyone of you has noticed but Bisu has edited his build+timings slightly, I won't spoil the "key point" cause I'm happy if nobody else except me gets it - thanks for that. Jaedong just had NEVER played this timing before I'm quite certain of that and therefor was pretty much not accordingly prepared.  But yea, a game is always bad if someone gets raped - right? Too bad that Bisu vs Jaedong ALWAYS is one of both raping the other.
Really I wouldn't have cared if it was like "Bisu vs Jaedong was not an epic game but was clearly dominated by Bisu" - or even stating the fact that Bisu has probably prepared more for this game would be fine - but something as biased as "Bisu played like Bisu and Jaedong played like he wanted to go home" - uhm yea who are you to know?
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Timings changed, Bisu prepared, whatever the excuse is, Jaedong played sloppy and by played like he wanted to go home I didn't mean he actually wanted to go home, I meant he played sloppy. So no, but because you asked I'll answer - I don't literally know if Jaedong wanted to leave the stadium and go home quickly, but that's beside the point. It was a figure of speech. Is this TL's 'take it literally day' or something?
And yes, in my analysis that was a one sided game in which neither player played their best. So yeah, it was sloppy and certainly not any fun to watch, especially when compared to the great games the rest of the evening gave us. Finally, no, not all one sided games are bad, as was seen in Stork vs Fantasy - there was something to see in that game. You are free to your opinion of course, but in JD vs Bisu there was no brilliance like Stork's shuttle play from either party. Bisu just played top notch as usual and JD completely dropped the ball. You suggest saying it wasn't epic - are you kidding me? It was the complete opposite of epic. If epic was even on the scale, that game couldn't be placed on it.
Maybe it was new timings, maybe it was being under prepared compared to his opponent, but the fact of the matter is that as a viewer, that game was pretty boring compared to the rest, and that is exactly what I have said. Again, I don't see where you see bias there. I was merely commenting on how the game played out in comparison to the rest of the evening. 
Before more people get on the bandwagon and start saying I'm Jaedong bashing, let me point you to - "Up till this point, Allstars was good, nay great, and we really couldn't think of better players to give us a stellar finish to the evening." The coverage team, and pretty mch everyone else was expecting this to be a much better game than it was, precisely because of the calibre of players involved.
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Great writeup. Thanks a lot, riptide!
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Very nice writeup.
The games were all such a lot of fun.
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On September 28 2009 09:22 .risingdragoon wrote: yellow couldn't have cleared his main cus there was a bunker in there
only dragoon range can outrange the bunker and clear his main
should I continue?
it was calm who said, 6 and upmagic responded 66 to sack boxer. if you wanted flair you coulda said the team avenged boxer's weasel 3-on-1 on yellow by taking it to him hard, and yellow got even later by doing a reaver drop and expoing at boxer's spawn point, pylon surround, etc.
did you watch the game btw?
Lol, bro, take it easy. Don't have a fuckin heart attack over a game.
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Finland1714 Posts
the relay war was just something else, best games of the event easily, i found myself laughing all the time ;p excellent writeup, loved the captions and the translations, thanks a ton guys!
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"Vulture harass? Cute. I'll bash his front door now". Kudos on the variation on the Bulldog strat, oldschool 'toss aggression with a modern expansionist twist. I wanted one of Stork's epic macro games, but he was in his patented PvT god-mode. Relay was awesome, Boxer vs. Yellow was totally cool, and Protoss win everything because fall is upon us.
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Uh wat wat Bisu vs Jaedong bad?? WORST GAME OF THE EVENT? Come on man, Flash vs savior was a joke. If Flash played properly it would have been a great game! But he tried to do something funny which wasn't even funny, it was boring as hell and nuking your own units and base is just disrespectful to your opponent.
The best game was Bisu vs Jaedong and the rest of the games were all pretty meh, watch last year's games they were much better. I was hoping for a coach-fight too :/
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Flash vs sAviOr was... I dont know.. I wanted to see a serious game lol. 3v3 was ok. only players i could tell who was who was boxer and yellow. and jaedong vs bisu... Jaedong played with feet I think? Are Jaedong and sAviOr like buds or what?
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On September 28 2009 22:03 Freezard wrote: Uh wat wat Bisu vs Jaedong bad?? WORST GAME OF THE EVENT? Come on man, Flash vs savior was a joke. If Flash played properly it would have been a great game! But he tried to do something funny which wasn't even funny, it was boring as hell and nuking your own units and base is just disrespectful to your opponent.
The best game was Bisu vs Jaedong and the rest of the games were all pretty meh, watch last year's games they were much better. I was hoping for a coach-fight too :/ Totally agree with everything you just said, except bisu vs jaedong wasnt a good game... like at all..
Edit: oops sorry for double post.. Meant to edit my last one -_-
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All-Stars was great and hilarious, thanks for the write-up! If I hadn't seen the games, I would want to watch them now.
And if any Korean speakers have the time and willingness to make subtitles, or even a transcript, that would be hugely appreciated :D
edit: Stork vs Fantasy was beastly. That game was deadly serious too. <3 Stork!
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Awesome writeup for an awesome event. The 3v3/relay was truely a hit!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
all stars was aweomse hahaha.
loved all the games well jd bisu was a let down i guess.
sstork vs fantasy was pure pvt pwnage. i love storks pvt so much.
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Boxer vs Yellow was a good game
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On September 28 2009 18:43 riptide wrote:Timings changed, Bisu prepared, whatever the excuse is, Jaedong played sloppy and by played like he wanted to go home I didn't mean he actually wanted to go home, I meant he played sloppy. So no, but because you asked I'll answer - I don't literally know if Jaedong wanted to leave the stadium and go home quickly, but that's beside the point. It was a figure of speech. Is this TL's 'take it literally day' or something? And yes, in my analysis that was a one sided game in which neither player played their best. So yeah, it was sloppy and certainly not any fun to watch, especially when compared to the great games the rest of the evening gave us. Finally, no, not all one sided games are bad, as was seen in Stork vs Fantasy - there was something to see in that game. You are free to your opinion of course, but in JD vs Bisu there was no brilliance like Stork's shuttle play from either party. Bisu just played top notch as usual and JD completely dropped the ball. You suggest saying it wasn't epic - are you kidding me? It was the complete opposite of epic. If epic was even on the scale, that game couldn't be placed on it. Maybe it was new timings, maybe it was being under prepared compared to his opponent, but the fact of the matter is that as a viewer, that game was pretty boring compared to the rest, and that is exactly what I have said. Again, I don't see where you see bias there. I was merely commenting on how the game played out in comparison to the rest of the evening.  Before more people get on the bandwagon and start saying I'm Jaedong bashing, let me point you to - "Up till this point, Allstars was good, nay great, and we really couldn't think of better players to give us a stellar finish to the evening." The coverage team, and pretty mch everyone else was expecting this to be a much better game than it was, precisely because of the calibre of players involved. Jesus Christ you're exadurating. Now I don't care if it's a way to defend your text or that you actually believe it. All I feel is that Jaedong looked hungry, but got f***ed and was certanly mad, which makes me feel like Bisu really got to him. Now I don't think that Jaedong in any way came there with the intent of loosing the game and then going home and you saying that it looked like that by how hard he got owned, just makes me feel like you weren't watching Jaedong or the game.
Either way, I feel like this game was far from awful and I really enjoyed it, inspite of Jaedong getting his ass handed to him that fast. Biased or not, I would have liked the game even if it had been Jaedong's new timings owning Bisu and I'd definetly recommend people seeing this game, far more then the BS flash/savior game. Your article was ok, but in the future I'd rather read something that you actually believe, then something you would write for shits and giggles.
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Still, his double shuttle goon micro was completely off the hook, and this game is worth watching for that alone. I think the whole time only one dragoon died to a mine?
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Sorry riptide but i agree with risingdragon and others
Had the last match an oposite ending (JD>Bisu), i think the article would be:
"Perfectly showing his bonjwaness, JD come in and stomp Bisu, giving him no chance to fight back. The game was a show of incredible sense and timings by JD, where even off season he demonstrates whos the 1st. How can he play better? He truly shows he is a level above everyone else. This guy is a god" Thats how an one sided game can be interpreted how someone sees fit.
Every game with the two where Bisu won there is "why". Lack of rest, not important match, being just arrived from vacation. Im really tired of this.
JD is first in titles, they are even in skill level, in a boX JD is favorite, in 1 ace game Bisu is favorite. Why cant we just apreciate that without spoiling one over another?
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Sigh... Don't listen to the haters riptide, it's a fitting article for this event. For everyone saying OMG flash is so stupid, or WTF bias, or OMG where's my super serious SC, why did you even watch this event? It's a fucking EVENT match. I mean is it seriously that horrible a thought to have 3 non-serious 1v1s? Also if your critizising riptide's article, what would you write instead? Would you complain that 3v3 was retarded, relay was full of cheating, flash wasn't serious? Because that's so much more exciting. Lighten up, be thankful that someone took the time to go write an article for you to read. If you can't stand it, go write your own article.
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On September 30 2009 06:52 danieldrsa wrote: Sorry riptide but i agree with risingdragon and others
Had the last match an oposite ending (JD>Bisu), i think the article would be:
"Perfectly showing his bonjwaness, JD come in and stomp Bisu, giving him no chance to fight back. The game was a show of incredible sense and timings by JD, where even off season he demonstrates whos the 1st. How can he play better? He truly shows he is a level above everyone else. This guy is a god" Thats how an one sided game can be interpreted how someone sees fit.
Every game with the two where Bisu won there is "why". Lack of rest, not important match, being just arrived from vacation. Im really tired of this.
JD is first in titles, they are even in skill level, in a boX JD is favorite, in 1 ace game Bisu is favorite. Why cant we just apreciate that without spoiling one over another?
It was a fucking meaningless game. There was no real pressure for anyone, nothing to lose and nothing to win. All-Star is a fun event.Even if they took the game seriously, it is just not the same as if they would meet in a Starleague.
Just stop arguing about nothing. This game means nothing, even if JD had won it. It is like saying LeBron is better than Kobe because he has three more dunks in an All-Star game.
The real season just started yesterday, now we can discuss serious games again, where it actually means something if you win or lose
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Congrats on the red, riptide.
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On September 30 2009 18:41 Malinor wrote:
Just stop arguing about nothing. This game means nothing, even if JD had won it. It is like saying LeBron is better than Kobe because he has three more dunks in an All-Star game.
I think the funniest thing about this quote is that I've seen basketball fans do exactly that.
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We hope they feature it again next year because from Leta looking at the big screen to Sea walking over and checking out his opponents' monitor in person...
I would like to see those games, anybody has the VODs
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