Mafia VIII [GG] - Page 7

On May 21 2009 15:08 Plexa wrote:
Another thing I don't like...

Day 1 we saw the use of Arrows to kill people (kinda like hunters did), and in Day 2 we have a mafioso "hunting" his victim (and later pulling out a knife, which gets special mention ie is important). This consistent idea of hunting could link to Callers quote
"Attacking a Terran without any lurkers is like going hunting without your accordion."
There are also enough references to sound in those paragraphs to account for the accordian (or lack of)

On May 21 2009 15:20 Incognito wrote:
Well, speaking of planning (*cough* L *cough*), what do we do with dreamflower's hit? She is already exposed to the mafia, might as well attempt to use it before we lose it.

On May 21 2009 15:44 Plexa wrote:
I spent saturday violently throwing up
Sunday trying to walk
Monday trying to get myself in a position to go back to univ
Tuesday I went back, only to come back home after an hour
Wednesday I completed a day of uni, still felt like shit
Today: well now im fucking posting

On May 21 2009 15:47 Plexa wrote:
I feel better now

On May 21 2009 15:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
caller, stop getting into plexas pants

On May 21 2009 15:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
hahahahaha, god your fast

On May 22 2009 02:34 MTF wrote:
Well, we fucked up. Sort of. Like Mynock said that lynching Ver was the right decision. It just wouldn't have happened to have a good outcome, no matter how it played out. But, hey, at least we'd still have someone who cared about the game in still.

That said, I'm not giving up.



I actually agree fully with this. Here is my reasoning:

Caller has been playing Mr. Middle Ground all game, never posts anything truly constructive, and seems to just be feigning a high level of activity by responding to peoples posts with "LOL" and such. Also, the way he voted towards the end of last night was very odd, in that he flip-flopped suddenly twice between the candidates. And now that we know that both were innocent, we know that Mafia probably didn't care which of them got killed or not, because either way, half of town would be up in arms about it.

Though perhaps it should be noted that Ver roleclaimed as Vet long before the vote ended. That would have given Mafia some incentive to switch over some members to his side.

Rebirth has been played the "I don't know what's going on, guys" card, which is usually unacceptable to me with town-side. However, with one of his recent posts that highlighted people who voted for Ver as well as voted for Ace to be lynched, his name is cleared a bit in my mind. It seemed like a sincere effort, and only Mafia would have known for sure at that point that both Ace and Ver were not Mafia.

Which is another thing. Though they were right, keep the people who were saying that we shouldn't lynch either leader in mind. This is a category simply because it's a smart play to have a few members advocate against the lynching when it's already obvious it's going to happen and you know the outcome is in your favor no matter who it is that is lynched.

These include:

Showtime! - Voted for Plexa to get some activity out of him.
Caller - Claimed he thought the lynch was stupid which is why he switched his vote to me, before going back and forth later. Voted Ace (maybe just a joke), MTF, Ace, Ver.
Amber[Light] - Just stated that he didn't think either leader should be lynched, then voted Ace.

On May 22 2009 04:18 fusionsdf wrote:


Do you have any posts by ver confirming/hinting at this from before he died? Otherwise you can just say whatever you want, and ver can't correct any misstatements.

I think you're innocent. I also think you're a blue.

Unfortunately nobody is voting for you (I'd rather have you in since I think you are the most innocent).

What do you think about the auto lynch? We can a) choose an inactive b) we can choose a big shot c) we can choose someone stupid.

Also, who of the candidates do you suspect? I'm positive at least one of them is mafia. It doesn't look to be Ace anymore so Mynock/Showtime are both very questionable. They've gotten too many votes for my liking.

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hahaha mtf
OMG PLEXA BANDWAGON VOTE AWAY FROM HIM

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Original Message:
I agree pardonner has some use. In the balancing we made it so that pardonner can pardon the mayor's auto lynch; quite handy.

I too would like you/I elected as things stand right now. We just need to stop mtf from scheming his way in again.

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yo,

remember that big plan I made a while back for Ace's game? Well I'm checking the rules for this game, and since the pardoner's back, I think it might be possible to use the pardoner as a way to "incriminate" people, i.e. threaten to lynch person a, pardon them, let mafia hit them. I mean pardoner use is just weird, and obviously limited as well, so why would mafia just ignore its use unless pardoner is mafia, in which case that will be apparent soon enough?

Thoughts will be more coherent when I'm not half-asleep -_-

(title: What are the chances...)
That nobody in the mafia is running.

I'm trying to form a picture of things and it simply isn't clear.

People are switching votes too easily.

Mafia candidates have always gotten elected if they bothered to run. Always. So why were so many people eager to switch around.

Mafia definitely has some good players but I'm honestly not sure what to make of this. Also looks like I can't go with the lynch ace plan b/c he's pardonner. I'm considering mynock but that might be hasty given the above.

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We have 48 hours.

I want to lure out as many mafia as possible.

The smart people who go with this BS logic are the culprits.

So far that's Ace, L, and possibly incognito.from me? I don't want the innocent townies leaping on me.

I'm staying quiet until the right moment.

I encourage you to troll hard though. Don't worry ill tell qatol it is with a just cause :D

Here are the ppl I pm'ed to get support. If they don't do it something is fishy:

you
bc
showtime
dreamflower
tricode (bc pm'ed or will)
plexa
scamp
infundibulum

I think the vast majority/all of these are innocent. But just as a contingency.
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Original Message:
I guess the answer is to spam inflammatory comments then, no?

On May 22 2009 07:25 HeavOnEarth wrote:
oh true, cause you don't even know if you're a BG eh.
possibly they got lucky? =/

On May 22 2009 13:34 Tricode wrote:
..........why did you announce that?

On May 22 2009 13:35 Tricode wrote:
@caller, wouldn't it have been better if they didn't know?

On May 22 2009 13:38 Tricode wrote:
@caller no but i mean, wouldn't it be better if mafia didn't know so if they did try to hit her, they would miss (assuming that she is not mafia for those who are still unsure about DF).

Now they would either have to stack or go after others. =\

On May 22 2009 13:40 Tricode wrote:
@caller, well as long as it is to late for them i guess that's cool. But what if Qatol is late and they have the extra time to switch who they want to kill =\?

On May 14 2009 16:16 Qatol wrote:
1. Caller

I can't believe I lost it. This will be shorter and I might forget some stuff but I'll try to put down the important parts. It's from we figured last night in combination with evidence dug from random places.

I posted this in the thread but I'll put it here too for reference.

not mafia:

1. Caller
2. Incognito
3. scamp
6. fishball (Paramedic)
7. nemy
9. Ver (Mayor)
14. mikeymoo (Bodyguard)
15. dreamflower
16. ace (Pardoner)
17. infundibulum
19. mynock
20. LucasWoJ (Bodyguard)
21. amber[light]
25. infinity21 (green)
30. L

At most 1/6 mafia on this list

Cannot prove:

Scara
Bockit
Plexa
Cam
Showtime
vivi
rol
mtf
0cz3c
heavon
tricode
malongo
mbh

Reds (most likely):

Scara
Bockit
MBH/MTF
Plexa
Showtime
malongo/rol/vivi
cam


Scara gave me this list after being pressured to reveal his role:

"fine im mafia, so is ace, ver, infundi, mtf, plexa"

First 3 are not mafia. If MTF/Plexa are not mafia then camlito is (1 clue analyzer at least must be mafia) and so must be MBH, because either MTF or MBH must be mafia (or L or incognito but that's much less likely). I think MTF is more likely innoccent than MBH simply because of last nights hits. Who else would hit fishball?

0cz3c had a random percentages post that put scara, bockit, mtf, 0zc3c, tricode, malongo, and rol as 100 percent innocent. Which is amusing and perhaps not coincidental because none of those people I can prove innocent at all. Tricode is still an unsustantiated dt, same w/ malongo and medic, and the rest have varying degrees of evidence against them. 0cz3c himself is extremely suspicious overall; I can't see him doing this as a non-dt/town role again.

Bockit definitely feels mafia. This is just intuition though since I've skimmed so much of the thread. Note a few things: he supported showtime in the election, but showtime didn't have any other suspicious votes iirc (maybe 1 suspicious one). He also called out plexa and supported camlito with AWFUL logic.

MBH obviously has everything against him and nothing for him. The only way he could be innocent is if he's doing exactly what I'm doing but that makes no sense. He's smart enough to realize the town is making terrible blunders in all of this and his votes/posts prove he's been around. I can't see how he isn't mafia. This of course proves MTF innocent and puts more doubt on Camlito/Plexa.

Camlito hates being mafia. So his apathy (similar to me when I'm mafia) could be taken that way as well.

Plexa is acting similar to how he was in AMW but it's hard to tell either way. I mean I suppose they both could be mafia, especially if MTF is innocent, but it's uncertain as of now.

Showtime seems to be innocent but he's pretty skilled at hiding so I honestly don't know.

Vivi is also very questionable overall; he could be blue/red but I don't like his lack of activity at all. I thought rol/scara suspicious since they weren't yelling at 0cz3c but rol finally did so that's uncertain. RoL in my game was very aggressive but the mafia

rol is probably innocent. When he's mafia he's more aggressive but mafia isn't doing that strategy this time. He's also pm'ing me like an innocent would and shares a lot of my analysis.

I keep forgetting about fusionsdf. Now that I think of it he's showing a lot of mafia/blue characteristics. Very strong candidate as well.

Same with heavonearth. He is very active yet is posting nothing helpful.

Just a random thought. be a little cautious on infundibulum. 90% innocent but he's one of the few on that list I'm uncertain of.


mbh
bockit
0cz3c
heavon
fusion


are all ridiculously likely mafia. Cam probably too. We can start from there.