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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 05:55 GMT
#1101
Also notice Plexa hasn't contributed to the thread at all and look who he voted for.

Come on, don't be stupid like last game this is fucking see through EASY.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 06:56 GMT
#1102
My plan is perfectly logical. Keep lashing out mr cool cucumber.

No you didn't work with Mynock and Ver to get voted in. No there wasn't a hueg voteswing to you day 1. No YOU weren't the one that coined the term 'three musketeers' to cement the solidarity between you three. No you didn't defend both mynock and ver until day 2 started.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 06:57 GMT
#1103
On May 18 2009 03:28 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 02:58 L wrote:
L running around screaming the sky is falling.
Excuse me?

I've posted far more logical and detailed analysis than you have despite you tossing out 2 long posts full of emotionally laden 'whoa oh shit, lets lynch the douchebag' casual text. Your argument has been presented in its entirety before, but you spruced it up and added a bunch of flavor text, remember after all, when ace plays he believes that:

It's not what you know, it's what you can convince people to believe.


So posting the same "it was a dumb move, ergo he is mafia + we need to kill him" content was pretty spot on, but you completely ignored the counter argument. There's probably an entire's page worth of writing on the topic which you ignored.

Why would you want to knock Nemy out of office? Well, for one, you're number three. You're the one that directly loses out on an office position. Two: you ver and mynock have supported each other in a circular fashion, then all seemingly dissapeared from the thread. What's more, the vast majority of supporters on your nemy position were people who bandwagoned you/ver/mynock very early without much posting like dreamflower. SUSPICIOUS? Just about as suspicious as someone calling out Plexa, which I agree was a fucking retarded vote.

What's more, your rebuttal of my 'nonsense claims' echoes EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. Mafia will ONLY reveal pardoner once they can end the game or when the trade off is beyond worth it. 15 player games have far less sacrifice potential than we currently have, especially if the pardoner gets tied up in clue evidence and is going to be a target in a day or two. ONCE THEY DO, however, WE ARE DOWN AN ENTIRE DAY.

Your rebuttal of trying to get blues into office is that you believe you're worth more to the town than a blue role, but the problem there, as I stated earlier, is that your personal capital makes you a prime target for a mafia candidacy. What's more; you keep promoting you, ver, and Mynock, which is interesting because you three started out circularly voting for each other. Its very possible, and in my mind probable that there's at least one mafia between the three of you.

The most dangerous part to you, however, is that nemY isn't going to win by a landslide at current rates: he's going to take the mafia coveted pardoner spot. Unlike in previous games where the mayor had networking ability, the only thing he has here is a double vote and his target will likely be voted upon by the town anyways, so that's that.

That said, you did end up reading 8 pages in an hour and a quarter minutes, seeing as you got up around 4:45 est, right? Maybe you ought to go back and actually read instead of scaremongering. You seem to have gone to sleep around 8pm last night too, which would be around 1.5 pages ahead of where you said you started off. Either you purposely ignored the thread (good mayor work there) or you've been lying. Feel free to provide me more information. Exact times, if you would.

So let me interject: if one of you is mafia, which is likely, you'd act exactly how mafia acted in mafia 2, which is exactly how you're acting now. Its what we did before. Its what I'd do if I was mafia.



Look at all the wrong shit in this post, oh gee I don't know where to start.

1.) You haven't been logical. Period. Your arguments about Pardoner are null and void because we can't determine anyone's roles yet. Duh. So your asking the town to vote in a way that is pretty much useless. All we can do is vote on ability which unfortunately leaves a lot of people out.

2.) nemy isn't in office. If I was worried about losing the election that bad of all people why would I go after nemy? Or you know, I could just take my vote off of mynock and abstain or vote for someone else. Duh? Your analysis is complete shit, try again.

3.) I'm supporting Mynock and Ver because I feel they are the other 2 best candidates. Every game we have people like you who question why I'm doing something, and you all come off looking like idiots. How many times do I have to tell you - you're wasting time. Maybe I just genuinely believe those 2 are good for the town and holy shit! They might be mafia but they haven't acted like you or nemy so I have no reason to fuck with them.

4.) That's nice that 1 of the 3 of us might be mafia. It's also nice that 6 out of the 30 people playing might be also. What's your point?

5.) There is no danger to me. Stop trying so hard. There is no mafia coveted Pardoner spot - any of the 2 will do. Stop making up these grand ideas in your head.

6.) Your "ifs" are wrong because none of us play this game like you. It shows.

7.) I don't know exactly what time I started reading the thread or exactly what time I went to bed. But if you want to dissect it till your blue in the face go ahead - I'm innocent and don't have to worry about anything. See unlike nemy, I haven't lied about anything. And unlike you I'm actually analyzing whats going on now and not some made up scenario that we have no control over.

Got anything else you want to uselessly add to the thread? Any more lightweight accusations you want to make against The Three Musketeers?


Yeah, completely independant.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 07:10 GMT
#1104
Supporting them doesn't mean I'm working with them.

Once again get your facts straight and stop trying to force my lynch.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:13 GMT
#1105
How would you work to get someone into office, then?

Not supporting them?

Not making your entire day 1 post content about how Ver/You/Mynock need to get office?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 07:15 GMT
#1106
On May 20 2009 15:56 L wrote:
My plan is perfectly logical. Keep lashing out mr cool cucumber.

No you didn't work with Mynock and Ver to get voted in. No there wasn't a hueg voteswing to you day 1. No YOU weren't the one that coined the term 'three musketeers' to cement the solidarity between you three. No you didn't defend both mynock and ver until day 2 started.



so because people vote for me based on my compelling posts to get myself elected that means I'm automatically fishy?

Ummm. no. It woul be SMARTER if you actually looked at the voters first instead of trying to lynch me as lynching me tells you absolutely nothing.

So let's see:

1.) Wrong about me working with Mynock and Ver to get voted in

2.) Wrong about me causing a suspicious voteswing as if it came out of no where

3.) Acting as if coining the term "The three Musketeers" is automatically cause for creating a Mafia coalition

4.) Of course I defended both of them - from retarded assumptions because like I said before We did not have enough information. Obviously with both Bodyguards dying on that night it would make sense for me to have an argument huh?

Yea, you sure are playing this smart huh? If the town even goes through with this they definitely get dunce caps handed all around. And yea, go ahead and try to lynch any but dreamflower. I'm gonna pardon them because right now your making no sense and are acting more mafiaish than anyone with the exception of Ver and Nemy, and of course dreamflower who voted for me in one more move for the books.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 07:15 GMT
#1107
On May 20 2009 16:13 L wrote:
How would you work to get someone into office, then?

Not supporting them?

Not making your entire day 1 post content about how Ver/You/Mynock need to get office?


How does that equal working WITH them? Explain doofus.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:23 GMT
#1108
How does that equal working WITH them? Explain doofus.
How doesn't it?

Rofl.

SMARTER if you actually looked at the voters
I did, you have a total of 1 person who didn't switch votes under your list and they voteswang you.

Not fishy at all.

[quoite]So let's see:

1.) Wrong about me working with Mynock and Ver to get voted in

2.) Wrong about me causing a suspicious voteswing as if it came out of no where

3.) Acting as if coining the term "The three Musketeers" is automatically cause for creating a Mafia coalition[/quote]

So lets see

1. Right about you working with mynock and Ver.

2. Right about you having a suspicious voteswing to your name.

3. I never said coining the term made it happen, it was the crystallization of a larger trend of co-operation.

And yea, go ahead and try to lynch any but dreamflower. I'm gonna pardon them because right now your making no sense and are acting more mafiaish than anyone with the exception of Ver and Nemy
This is why we're killing you first, silly, so you don't have this wacky mafia controlled pardon ability : ).

Thanks for proving my point, Mr cool cucumber.
COOLACECUCUMBER, please be happier when you post.

Like me : D
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:24 GMT
#1109
quiote. Nice.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:36 GMT
#1110
On May 18 2009 04:02 Mynock wrote:
I'll try to be as reasonable as I can here, and just address the L issue briefly.

L, to make it a bit more clear, the problem both Ace (I think) and I have here, is that you're dealing with some virtual Mafia game's Day 7, while we're actually trying to address the issues of here and now. And your constant paranoia and shouting does get a bit tiresome. I understand your position and your concerns, but I just don't feel they're as valid and of such high priority to deal with them extensively.

That aside, there is one point I agree with you on, and that is the upstart of a Mafia Mayor as quickly as possible. However, out of the leading candidates, that only applies to Ver. I have been wondering myself where Ver could have gone, because he's made virtually no input after his initial campaining and a brief cameo after nemY RCed (granted, his campaigning put him in a comfortable spot, but still...).

If Ver is out there and active, I'd like to hear his take on this matter.

Mynock clearly not working along side you to marginalize me.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:37 GMT
#1111
On May 18 2009 03:55 Ace wrote:
Oh snap L fails at reading again, and now tries to put the loss of the Town last game on me. I love this shit.

1.) Obviously determining roles is the aim of the game - but we are still at Mayoral elections. None of us can determine anything right now. Oh shit how did you miss this? You even quoted it but read it wrong.

2.) Worried about the election != worried about nemy. I'd love to be in, but hey if Mynock and Ver made it can't say I'd be sad. I'm not that worried about the election. But yea your right - I am worried about nemy which is exactly why I've been making my case against him.

3.) circular collusion? lol ok Don King. Ver has been pretty much silent, and only myself and Mynock have really supported each other. Stop trying to take wild guesses.

4.) I am immune from scrutiny. Because I'm innocent so anything you try to come at me with just doesn't phase me. If you caught me lying or bullshitting I'd understand but I never have. You know, thats how most of the good players that play know when I'm innocent.

5.) It wasn't proven false. How would you know the Mafia covet the Pardoner spot unless they themselves stated it? Once again you're failing.

6.) It's an US statement because playing the game with Ver and Mynock so many times I KNOW none of us play the game like you. It's just that simple - nothing beyond that.

7.) What full disclosure is there to give? But since you want to - go ahead. Post this evidence. You'll see I went to sleep, woke up, and came on TL.net after playing DOTA. Clan chat, replays - post whatever you need to. I know I'm not mafia so I'm begging you to do what you have to in order to "prove" I'm lying. I wasn't dodging but since you said I was I'm here for the show.

So go ahead champ, show us what you got.


Supporting mynock/ver again. You 'KNOW' how they play, but now believe Ver is mafia. Nice prediction skills.

Etc.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:39 GMT
#1112
I can go on, there are plenty of other posts which show you working together with the two mentioned in order to try and put forth the same argument. You working with Ver/Mynock isn't 100% grounds for guilt, but the way you're taking it as a death threat indicates that I've hit oil and you're going to keep gushing for me.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 20 2009 07:45 GMT
#1113
On May 20 2009 16:39 L wrote:
I can go on, there are plenty of other posts which show you working together with the two mentioned in order to try and put forth the same argument. You working with Ver/Mynock isn't 100% grounds for guilt, but the way you're taking it as a death threat indicates that I've hit oil and you're going to keep gushing for me.

...
that's gotta be one of the stupidest things i've read today
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:47 GMT
#1114
I made a super general argument because there's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOT of material.

Go to search on the top left of the TL interface, put in whatever, then go search advanced by limiting results to content by Ace and picking Mynock or Ver as the subject field. It will give you a list of all of his posts where he mentions the person stated.

I will make a picture.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 20 2009 07:48 GMT
#1115
On May 20 2009 16:47 L wrote:
I made a super general argument because there's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOT of material.

Go to search on the top left of the TL interface, put in whatever, then go search advanced by limiting results to content by Ace and picking Mynock or Ver as the subject field. It will give you a list of all of his posts where he mentions the person stated.

I will make a picture.

good for you
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:50 GMT
#1116
: ) One sec, uploading to photobucket or something.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 07:52 GMT
#1117
+ Show Spoiler +
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The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 20 2009 07:57 GMT
#1118
Hey L guess what

if you try that on me for Ver you get the exact same thing.

By your reasoning, I'm as guilty as Ver because I mentioned his name in a post.

Are you fucking stupid? Just because someone's name appears in a post doesn't mean jack shit. If you look up "L" and "Ver" or "Ace" you'll get lots of posts. This is a very poor way to do this shit.

In fact this entire lynching the mayoral candidates is just stupid. The BGs? Do you really think they pmed somebody? We only have one traitor, not seven? Has town lost their fucking minds?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 08:03 GMT
#1119
Uh, no, i said go READ the posts. That's how you get to them quickly.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 08:05 GMT
#1120
Well, to be specific I said there's a lot of material, I'm just telling people how to get it. The best way to do it is to click on the post number you want with whatever your browser's find button ready, because sometimes the mention of the name is in quoted material or the post isn't relevant.

happy reading mon ami :3
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