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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 20 2009 03:33 GMT
#1081
On May 20 2009 12:30 Incognito wrote:
But...I thought we get 3 hits?

But LTT is death incarnate. He cannot be killed again.
Uff Da
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 20 2009 03:33 GMT
#1082
^^ Well...I'll protect you from undying like i promised yesterday and you'll let me unkill LTT?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
May 20 2009 03:39 GMT
#1083
Stop posting, dead people. The only thing worse than zombies coming back to haunt us are zombie trolls coming back to haunt us.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 20 2009 03:41 GMT
#1084
On May 20 2009 12:24 LTT wrote:
If 2 vigis stack hits, we will be sure to refund the hit of the second to send it in. Also all townies will be resurrected and be given 6 additional night lives.


I deserved that.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 20 2009 03:45 GMT
#1085
L your whole argument on the double lynch revolves around Ace being mafia/traitor. Take that out of the equation and you waste today's lynch. Lynch Ver now, and it's still possible to vigi Ace tonight, if we decide he is guilty. Then tomorrow the double lynch can take out 2 more suspects. By lynching Ver first, and vigi'ing Ace tonight later (if we decide to do so) we get more time to decide what we think about Ace. As to where I stand on Ace, at the moment I'm 50%. I can't decide if he's town aligned or not I keep flipping what I think in regard to him.

And no shit, if Ver flips red it doesn't mean Ace is innocent, I never said that.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 20 2009 03:47 GMT
#1086
The question is how will you decide Ace is guilty?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 20 2009 03:50 GMT
#1087
We've got nothing to go on other than his posts and voting. By the time *we* (we are a town still) need to decide to vigi/not we'll have even more material to go over (Ace's posts)
Their are four errors in this sentance.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 04:06 GMT
#1088
On May 20 2009 12:45 Bockit wrote:
L your whole argument on the double lynch revolves around Ace being mafia/traitor. Take that out of the equation and you waste today's lynch. Lynch Ver now, and it's still possible to vigi Ace tonight, if we decide he is guilty. Then tomorrow the double lynch can take out 2 more suspects. By lynching Ver first, and vigi'ing Ace tonight later (if we decide to do so) we get more time to decide what we think about Ace. As to where I stand on Ace, at the moment I'm 50%. I can't decide if he's town aligned or not I keep flipping what I think in regard to him.

And no shit, if Ver flips red it doesn't mean Ace is innocent, I never said that.

No it doesn't. The strategy for the lynch revolves around the double lynch and pardoner. The RISK that he's mafia makes this the proper move. This is risk management.

I've already asked the vig to hit ace tonight if he isn't lynched, but why depend on a single person?

You're asking questions like "is ace innocent", and I'm saying "i don't care". 50% suspicion is PLENTY. Lynch him. Find his colour. Look at the voting records. Look at his early supporters and people who joined the ace wagon late. Don't fucking delay the biggest treasure trove of information we have from being opened, and don't rely on a single person who may or may not make the hit. Vigilantes are unpredictable. Caller proved that last game.

And yeah, you ARE implying that ace is innocent. WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER WHAT VER FLIPS? IT TELLS US NOTHING. There's no additional info here. Pretty sure fusion's post drilled that into your head. Ace and Ver's rivalry today can be interpreted as sincere or an obvious mafia setup for a red-herring. You want to know why I know that? Because

1: I was saying the 3 musketeers would pull shit like that during day 1. They did.

2: Its what we did in.. every game as mafia prior to this. Standard damage control. Mafia scared one of their own looks too juicy a target? Start incriminating him. Get the ball rolling. Take credit for something town would have done and get confidence in that manner.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 04:08 GMT
#1089
The only thing Ver's lynch will tell us is circumstantial evidence regarding his voting record and some information about the people who voted for him. It won't directly implicate Ace except via Mynock. If it does implicate Ace via Mynock, we have, again, the same 3 musketeers scenario that my suggestion counters.

My plan is the BEST plan for going forward. It lets town kill mafia faster, get more information, hits the most likely targets. It is the most logical and straight forward path to victory and people are picking up on that.

VOTE FOR ACE AND DOUBLE LYNCH.

TOMORROW VER/DREAMFLOWER (unless we find someone better than dreamflower)
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 20 2009 04:13 GMT
#1090
My comment on what Ver flipped was more about completion. It was to do with the scenario that if he (somehow) flipped green then Ace was definitely mafia.

Ok, after consideration, I'll go along with your plan. On the condition that you agree to vigi'ing Ver tonight, giving us 2 fresh hits tomorrow if the vigi is willing to go along with us.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 20 2009 04:15 GMT
#1091
And if the vigi doesn't go along with the plan, then we of course lynch ver tomorrow along with primary suspect #2
Their are four errors in this sentance.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 20 2009 04:20 GMT
#1092
I don't mind if the Vig hits Ver tonight at all.

I just assumed we can't depend on him to agree with me.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 20 2009 04:22 GMT
#1093
On May 20 2009 13:06 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 12:45 Bockit wrote:
L your whole argument on the double lynch revolves around Ace being mafia/traitor. Take that out of the equation and you waste today's lynch. Lynch Ver now, and it's still possible to vigi Ace tonight, if we decide he is guilty. Then tomorrow the double lynch can take out 2 more suspects. By lynching Ver first, and vigi'ing Ace tonight later (if we decide to do so) we get more time to decide what we think about Ace. As to where I stand on Ace, at the moment I'm 50%. I can't decide if he's town aligned or not I keep flipping what I think in regard to him.

And no shit, if Ver flips red it doesn't mean Ace is innocent, I never said that.

No it doesn't. The strategy for the lynch revolves around the double lynch and pardoner. The RISK that he's mafia makes this the proper move. This is risk management.

I've already asked the vig to hit ace tonight if he isn't lynched, but why depend on a single person?

You're asking questions like "is ace innocent", and I'm saying "i don't care". 50% suspicion is PLENTY. Lynch him. Find his colour. Look at the voting records. Look at his early supporters and people who joined the ace wagon late. Don't fucking delay the biggest treasure trove of information we have from being opened, and don't rely on a single person who may or may not make the hit. Vigilantes are unpredictable. Caller proved that last game.

And yeah, you ARE implying that ace is innocent. WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER WHAT VER FLIPS? IT TELLS US NOTHING. There's no additional info here. Pretty sure fusion's post drilled that into your head. Ace and Ver's rivalry today can be interpreted as sincere or an obvious mafia setup for a red-herring. You want to know why I know that? Because

1: I was saying the 3 musketeers would pull shit like that during day 1. They did.

2: Its what we did in.. every game as mafia prior to this. Standard damage control. Mafia scared one of their own looks too juicy a target? Start incriminating him. Get the ball rolling. Take credit for something town would have done and get confidence in that manner.



heh
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 20 2009 04:29 GMT
#1094
On May 20 2009 11:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
well this is sweet, I am on page 38! See you all in 1-2 hours of post reading. But I figure to be safe, vote lynch Ace.

wut
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 23:29:00
May 20 2009 04:31 GMT
#1095
Vote count:
nemY - 0
Ace

Ver - 4
Ace <-- from nemY
Camlito
Scaramanga
Mynock
Bockit
0cz3c <-- from Ace

BloodyC0bbler - 1
Incognito

Plexa - 3
Malongo
BloodyC0bbler <-- from Malongo
HeavOnEarth

dreamflower - 2
Camlito <-- from Ver
fusionsdf

Malongo - 0
BloodyC0bbler

Ace - 6
Caller
0cz3c
L
nemY
dreamflower
Amber[Light]
Bockit <-- from Ver

Total - 16
Ace - 6
Ver - 4
Plexa - 3
dreamflower - 2
BloodyC0bbler - 1



Double Lynch - 8/9 needed
Scaramanga
L
fusionsdf
nemY
BloodyC0bbler
dreamflower
Bockit
Malongo

Non-voters - 10
scamp
Ver
plexa
showtime!
infundibulum
vivi57
rebirthoflegend
MTF
Tricode
MrBabyHands


Voting closes in 24 hours.
Uff Da
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 20 2009 05:05 GMT
#1096
Hm. I wonder if going straight after the elected offices is really the best action. L is certainly persuasive though. I'll vote when I wake up tomorrow.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 05:41 GMT
#1097
On May 20 2009 12:21 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 12:18 Bockit wrote:
L:

We lynch Ver tonight.
We vigi someone tonight based on what we learn from ver's death.

Mafia kp is down to 2.

A likely scenario, not definite but nowhere near impossible.

We learn nothing from killing Ace about Ver.

See the above. They were working together until they were elected into office, now they're trying to force an either/or scenario. ACE IS NOT INNOCENT IF VER FLIPS RED.


Whoa easy there - stop making shit up. I haven't worked with ANYONE this game, get your shit straight. If your gonna lie to convince the town to lynch me at least be more skillful than that.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 20 2009 05:45 GMT
#1098
I want to hear from Ver before I decide on anything.

Hopefully he'll post by the time I wake up tomorrow. If not, I'm probably going to vote for him.
Cheese is good for you!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 05:46 GMT
#1099
On May 20 2009 12:45 Bockit wrote:
L your whole argument on the double lynch revolves around Ace being mafia/traitor. Take that out of the equation and you waste today's lynch. Lynch Ver now, and it's still possible to vigi Ace tonight, if we decide he is guilty. Then tomorrow the double lynch can take out 2 more suspects. By lynching Ver first, and vigi'ing Ace tonight later (if we decide to do so) we get more time to decide what we think about Ace. As to where I stand on Ace, at the moment I'm 50%. I can't decide if he's town aligned or not I keep flipping what I think in regard to him.

And no shit, if Ver flips red it doesn't mean Ace is innocent, I never said that.


He doesn't get that point. He's WASTING the town's Double Lynches no matter how much I try to explain to him to stick to my original plan:

We all agreed that it's highly likely one of the losing candidates in the election could be Mafia. Why are we even going a different direction?

Notice how as soon as the 2 bodyguards die, all of a sudden it's lets lynch Ace! If not , Vigi him! Oh and use the double lynches too!

Get lost with that shit. So you want to kill 3 people, use a double lynch, and hope I don't pardon someone all because you feel panicked we are about to run out of time?

Ask yourself - do you honestly think I'm gonna let you get away with this shit?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 20 2009 05:52 GMT
#1100
On May 20 2009 13:08 L wrote:
The only thing Ver's lynch will tell us is circumstantial evidence regarding his voting record and some information about the people who voted for him. It won't directly implicate Ace except via Mynock. If it does implicate Ace via Mynock, we have, again, the same 3 musketeers scenario that my suggestion counters.

My plan is the BEST plan for going forward. It lets town kill mafia faster, get more information, hits the most likely targets. It is the most logical and straight forward path to victory and people are picking up on that.

VOTE FOR ACE AND DOUBLE LYNCH.

TOMORROW VER/DREAMFLOWER (unless we find someone better than dreamflower)


DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN HE IS FUCKING ASSTARD.

Implicate Mynock via Me? Have you forgotten who your dealing with? Obviously.

See, as everyone who pays attention knows I stick up for people when I feel there's some bullshit bandwagon forming against them. I did it for JeeJee last game, I did it for Ghar the game I was Mayor, and I did it for Mikeymoo when he was innocent.

See? So your point fails because there IS no implication. Especially since DING - I haven't had to stick up for Mynock. Never have this game. Get your facts straight.

Your plan is the most ILLOGICAL plan as it's pretty much a zerg rush crapshoot and I can see through the bullshit. Look at my voting records? LOL? You can do that NOW. Why would you have to kill me to accomplish that?

Easy. Because you're a guilty red fuck thats why.

Hi Mr.Mafia L - 3 times now is it?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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