EPTMafia VII - GG - Page 44
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t_co
United States702 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
I sign Malongo's declaration. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
We can't afford to be wrong. I don't think it's in our best interest to merely say, after we lynch someone not the mafia, especially in the state we're in right now, whatever, we can fail. Right now, we really can't. Theoretically this is a splendid idea. However, if people begin to vote before we actually have conclusive evidence against someone else, what then? With that said, I will sign this declaration. I'm glad to see a conspicuous townie in this game. Perhaps now we can organize. Good work. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
On May 04 2009 11:48 0cz3c wrote: Malongo, I agree with essentially everything you said except this: "3-Townies: DONT change your vote. Again if there are 2 mafias chances are they are the ones trying to sway the voting. -DONT - EVER - change your vote. If we caught a player changing the voting we lynch him next day. If we fail a lynch, whatever, we can fail. However we dont have second opinions. Im sure no green will ever disagree this." We can't afford to be wrong. I don't think it's in our best interest to merely say, after we lynch someone not the mafia, especially in the state we're in right now, whatever, we can fail. Right now, we really can't. Theoretically this is a splendid idea. However, if people begin to vote before we actually have conclusive evidence against someone else, what then? With that said, I will sign this declaration. I'm glad to see a conspicuous townie in this game. Perhaps now we can organize. Good work. What i meant to say is: We have 0 chance of having a 100% sure target, that means that we can fail at lynching, townies can mislynch, theres nothing to do about that. What we can do is to force ourselves to keep our voting. If after watching all the discussion and the clues we mislynch theres abosolutely nothing to prevent that. However, everytime a real townie change his votes he is actually giving the chance to mafia to switch and sway the voting too. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
On May 04 2009 12:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Malongo, how about no changing votes at all unless there is some major revelation? Like finding out about a mafia. There are no mayor revelations this game. Period. Your best shot about that is a DT claim, something that shouldnt happen at least with 3 rolechecks from him. Even in that case that could be a fake information. I mean, lets suppose a DT pms you and tells you XXX is mafia. Suppose we change the voting and turns green. What do we do? a) lynch you b) call the player you named and lynch him. No sorry. If something the DTs remaining should know how screwed we are. Mayor revelations during vote time (as for a lynch switch) are fishy as fuck. DTs: if you want to send a mayor revelation make sure this doesnt mean to switch votes (make it as soon as the day comes). We dont change votes. Townies dont need to change votes. | ||
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
On May 04 2009 11:01 Malongo wrote: 1- Qatol starts voting as a single townie. I don't know much about the rest of the "declaration". But Qatol needs to go today, and his 3 votes on Quickstriker is the only thing keeping him alive. Town, if you are reading this and your vote is not on Qatol, you need to change it now. I'm not sure about double lynch, if we get enough votes for it (it certainly doesn't look like we will get it just from the sheer amount of inactives alone), the second one should be Quickstriker. Since authorizing a double lynch today would mean less chance of lynching Qatol, I'm not going to vote for one today. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
On May 04 2009 12:27 GoodWill wrote: I don't know much about the rest of the "declaration". But Qatol needs to go today, and his 3 votes on Quickstriker is the only thing keeping him alive. Town, if you are reading this and your vote is not on Qatol, you need to change it now. I'm not sure about double lynch, if we get enough votes for it (it certainly doesn't look like we will get it just from the sheer amount of inactives alone), the second one should be Quickstriker. Since authorizing a double lynch today would mean less chance of lynching Qatol, I'm not going to vote for one today. The only thing I can do about todays voting is to ask for Double Lynch tomorrow. You dont seem to understand our position really. Even if we lynch Qatol and flips red we are indeed screwed. Not voting for a Double Lynch means we wont use the power ever. Lets suppose a great position for the town: mafia trade 2 hits tonight: 2 less mafia 1 less KP, 5 townies death (counting the CK). Then we are 35 people alive and about 9-11 mafia. One more lynch and five more hits. We dont have time thats for sure. I rather fail at double lynching instead of waiting in my living room for the game to end. The second reason is that actually lynching non voters and inactives forces mafia to come foward. If you can convince people to lynch Qatol i dont really care too much i wont change my vote to lynch him or to defend him. Im playing this game trying my best to HIT mafia. Lordweirds clue fit almost perfectly and thats why im voting him, because his behavior is as fishy as Qatol but his clue matchs better. Whatever happens in todays lynch i cant do anything else, im fighting for tomorrow. Vote Double Lynch. | ||
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
On May 04 2009 12:49 Malongo wrote: The only thing I can do about todays voting is to ask for Double Lynch tomorrow. You dont seem to understand our position really. Even if we lynch Qatol and flips red we are indeed screwed. Not voting for a Double Lynch means we wont use the power ever. Lets suppose a great position for the town: mafia trade 2 hits tonight: 2 less mafia 1 less KP, 5 townies death (counting the CK). Then we are 35 people alive and about 9-11 mafia. One more lynch and five more hits. We dont have time thats for sure. I rather fail at double lynching instead of waiting in my living room for the game to end. The second reason is that actually lynching non voters and inactives forces mafia to come foward. If you can convince people to lynch Qatol i dont really care too much i wont change my vote to lynch him or to defend him. Im playing this game trying my best to HIT mafia. Lordweirds clue fit almost perfectly and thats why im voting him, because his behavior is as fishy as Qatol but his clue matchs better. Whatever happens in todays lynch i cant do anything else, im fighting for tomorrow. Vote Double Lynch. oh, for tomorrow, forgot about that, sorry | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
Anyway, I think we're getting a little misguided here. Just because someone was wrong doesn't mean they're mafia. Townies are wrong all the time. Don't think that since it happened last game it will happen this game. Please dont get single minded. Discuss the options. Then maybe lynch Qatol if it is the BEST COURSE OF ACTION. Clues are weak. Please dont vote on them. Writing clues with Chuiu for last game, I would know its pretty much impossible to link someone to the correct clue. Do not make support for your argument by saying, "Oh look! I found 50 billion clues pointing to player 'X'!" No you didn't. You're just making up clue analysis for the person you want lynched. Unless you found all those clues coming from different day posts. Even then not all the mafia are in every single day post. Remember that. Also there are no such things as "weak" and "strong" clues. The clue either makes sense or it doesnt. If it makes sense, its not always right. If it doesn't make sense. IGNORE IT. Carbon Monoxide does not cause a burning sensation in the lungs. It isn't a link to Monoxide. If a clue sounds obscure, don't write it off as a "weak" clue. The clues are not dog treats that the host throws at you to make you happy. They're not going to be giveaways. They are most likely going to be obscure. Thus getting to my next point: Malongo's proposition. I'll go through it point by point. 1. Not that useful. Curbing Qatol's voting power does not decrease his power by that much even if he is mafia. But those extra votes sure can help us when we need it. 2. Like I said about clues. Please don't randomly lynch based on them. We probably won't even be able to agree which clue to lynch on. 3. It sounds good in theory, but also could cause problems. Especially since you want clue based lynches. Your assumption backing your plan is that we can afford to mislynch. Sorry, but we can't. Unless mafia magically start hitting each other. Even then, it isn't such a good idea to randomly lynch based on clues. Especially since the mafia could influence who we will lynch if they can manipulate our understanding of the clues. Obviously the town is in enough chaos that this its probably that the mafia can easily manipulate the clue interpretations. If you want to make random lynches, then it would be better to just make a random list generator. At least mafia can't manipulate that. 4. Um we only have 3 double lynches. And the way your plan goes we won't be able to dent mafia count using double lynch. We'll only dig ourselves into a deeper hole. 5. Maybe. But the list sounds logical as it is now. 6. No. Goes with what I've already said. 7. We probably only have 1 DT left. Maybe two. But if so, the DT has already contacted people. It would be useless to keep that information bottled up. The DT is already exposed. 8. Yes. Although other analysis would also be good. Although clue analysis isn't the best, we need town discussion. So bring it on peoples. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On May 04 2009 12:49 Malongo wrote: The only thing I can do about todays voting is to ask for Double Lynch tomorrow. You dont seem to understand our position really. Even if we lynch Qatol and flips red we are indeed screwed. Not voting for a Double Lynch means we wont use the power ever. Lets suppose a great position for the town: mafia trade 2 hits tonight: 2 less mafia 1 less KP, 5 townies death (counting the CK). Then we are 35 people alive and about 9-11 mafia. One more lynch and five more hits. We dont have time thats for sure. I rather fail at double lynching instead of waiting in my living room for the game to end. The second reason is that actually lynching non voters and inactives forces mafia to come foward. If you can convince people to lynch Qatol i dont really care too much i wont change my vote to lynch him or to defend him. Im playing this game trying my best to HIT mafia. Lordweirds clue fit almost perfectly and thats why im voting him, because his behavior is as fishy as Qatol but his clue matchs better. Whatever happens in todays lynch i cant do anything else, im fighting for tomorrow. Vote Double Lynch. CK can't hit tonight. We don't know what the mafia numbers are so stop speculating. We can use Double lynch even if the mayor is dead. The mafia might be in favor of double lynch also if they think they can avoid the chopping block. | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
![[image loading]](http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/826/826092/battlestar-galactica-razor-20071009052001010.jpg ) Night 3 The town all spent the day pointing fingers, when at the end of it all, they all grabbed whatever object was closest, be it stones, sticks, or the like. With weapons in hand, they turned and hurled their projectiles at quickstriker They all dropped their jaws at once again a failed killing. Night roles pm me asap, lets keep this game going. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
- Caller - Rol. - Milkymoo. And hell yeah, vote double lynch next day and lynch Qatol. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
Wonder how many times have this happened already  | ||
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
Lordweird: inactive, strong clue match. Drunk. Ver: inactive, clues related to sight (as versatile posted) ver in spanish is the verb "to see". Also the best behavioral analist in town working for the mafia. Check for versatiles post if you want more evidense or all the screen related clues plus "he caught a quick glimpse of a man swinging a long object". | ||
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
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