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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 17 2009 08:28 GMT
#201
just to let this be known: Detectives are almost absolute shit this game, so even if Mafia wanted to fake them it's almost useless. To win this game the town will need a semi-invincible plan to win, and also clue analysis which unfortunately is going to have to be even better than any other game.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 17 2009 08:37 GMT
#202
I began on page 2, then the rest was from the irc/pms of whoever got most mods gets a vote.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
March 17 2009 08:41 GMT
#203
I'll throw my hat in the ring... I don't really want to be an elected official, but here is what I can offer:

(1) I will vow to listen to the town as a whole when the majority thinks that a way I could act is a good idea for the town, I will do what they wish for me to do.

(2) Any plan that the town comes up with and approves of I will be on board for.

(3) Unless a situation seems imperative to be dealt with quickly, I will not take any drastic action before letting the town know and giving them ample time to disapprove of my position

Items 1-3 I think are something that all running players should strive to do. We can't have the town rally around someone making decisions completely on their own as that is likely to cause chaos and could potentially split the town as some people may not agree with the eleceted's actions creating a rift. If the elected agrees to listen to the town in his informed decision making, it is easier to rally around him and keep from dividing people who just don't understand a certain motivation (as the rest of the town chimed in thinking it was a good idea prior to the action)

(4) I can read people's edited posts (which they aren't supposed to do anyway, but I can verify all of them as long as I am living). Kennigit is the only other player in the game with the out of game ability to do so :p

(5) I am immensely active as a staff member of the site I am around all the freaking time and am currently on spring break for the next two weeks with nothing much to do except go to work (and I usually browse TL while at work)
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
March 17 2009 08:56 GMT
#204
On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As sheriff or mayor, I will help guide the town where I can doing what I do best, Analysis. I can analyze clues, behaviour of players and guide us in a winning direction.

As sheriff, I can jail 4 people in a game once per person, this allows me to save potential targets from mafia in a night, or jail the mafia lowering their KP.

As mayor I can guide us towards killing the right suspect, and with a day 1 auto lynch, kill the person who is the most fishy to the town, but in the end, that will come to a consensus among the town first.

Now for a plan.
We all know the town works better when organized, as such, neither mayor nor sheriff can guide this town to victory without being under suspect (we always flip as mayor or sheriff regardless of any other role).

So heres the plan.

Medics protect veteran players early. When one of them takes a hit, the medic should roleclaim to that person AND that person should claim they took a hit. That person then gets checked. They get the medic checked as well. If BOTH check out, they both come out and serve as figureheads for the town. They coordinate blue abilities but keep information on to the town.

When the person is hit they speak up. The sheriff then locks him up, protecting him from night hits while a dt checks him out. Once verified we repeat process with med, and have two figureheads, as opposed to the regular one.

In the event the person who is hit doesnt speak up, the medic speaks up, we verify them first, then the one hit after.

This is our best chance at getting town leadership quickly.


Hmm okay let's see here. This seems to be pretty solid way of coordinating blues IF the following circumstances happen: medic protects an active player, active player comes out. It has a good result but the problem is that it comes down to luck/medic skill.

I would like to see this expanded more and discussed, as well as possible alternatives. When the medics make a save, great, we can go with this. But otherwise we need some backup ideas.

I won't be back until late tomorrow night so hopefully we can polish this or get something even better. Until then, this is the only actual plan proposed so far and it does seem well thought out so BC has my vote of confidence. We don't need names and history, we need plans and accountability for office. Others & BC, get your own plans and flesh them out better. I will lend my views tomorrow once I have more time.

I vote for BC . For now, I'll see how things are tomorrow.

I don't fully agree with Ace that DTs are terrible. Yes, they no longer give absolute certainty but the certainty is still very high (1 GF, 3 millers is not a very large number). Furthermore, millers cannot be blue, so blue can only be the GF. Yeah mafia probably won't fake DT, but that's even better for us because then we don't have to waste rolechecks or be stingy on trusting blues. It is often well worth the sacrifice of a mafia to screw up the town's machinery for a day or two.
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TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
March 17 2009 09:19 GMT
#205
Right now, I like BC and semioldguy's platforms. I am still undecided though, and am going to give other candidates an opportunity to flesh out their platforms.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 17 2009 09:21 GMT
#206
oh shit, sucks i missed this
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 17 2009 09:22 GMT
#207
On March 17 2009 18:19 TruthBringer wrote:
Right now, I like BC and semioldguy's platforms. I am still undecided though, and am going to give other candidates an opportunity to flesh out their platforms.


IF ELECTED MAYOR I WILL BUILD PLATFORMS OF FLESH
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
March 17 2009 09:34 GMT
#208
On March 17 2009 17:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Anyone want to comment on my Pika Chu analysis?


It is too hair pulled mate, but it is definitely a good initiative on your side.

But you are keen on finding clues that may remotely point to me other than doing a real analysis and seeing the clues that may not point toward me.

They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
March 17 2009 09:34 GMT
#209
BC is likely going to win, or at least be runner up, meaning he is going to have an elected position. He has a good platform and a plan and/or apparent desire to help the town. Let's make sure that the second elected official is someone we want to be there.

As such there is one more thing I can offer:

(6) If elected along with BloodyC0bbler I will go along with him for as long as it is in the best interests of the town for me to do so. I will do my best to support and keep from building any tension between myself and the other elected official and make sure that the two of us are on the same page as often as possible and reasonable to do so.
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Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
March 17 2009 10:55 GMT
#210
I vote semioldguy for sherif as I semi-like old guys.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
March 17 2009 11:55 GMT
#211
i feel used, raped

WHY DID YOU DO THIS
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 17 2009 13:34 GMT
#212
On March 17 2009 14:26 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 14:18 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Alas, more_minerals, for ye shall be missed!

Anyway. I don't see why people are voting BC when he hasn't even made a statement in the thread yet. Why don't we wait for some actual campaigning instead of blind voting?


Qatol's was part of a pre-arranged deal and Fishball I guess is choosing to vote for BC rather than kill him as he normally would.

But yes candidates should be judged on their merits of their proposal.

I won't be here for all of tomororow so I'm not running and whoever has the best plan + accountability gets my vote.


rather than kill him as he normally would.

Define "normally". The one time I killed BC, I was Mafia.
Your phrase sounds like I've always been doing so.

Among early runners, Caller, BC, and motbob, to me BC is the most favorable candidate, and I'm sure a lot would agree for obvious reasons.
Like I said, since the first morning post did not have any clues directed to BC (not even minor ones, "yet"), BC gets my vote.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
March 17 2009 13:44 GMT
#213
BC you know i love you hence I vote BC for sheriff
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 17 2009 14:28 GMT
#214
# I vote for Pyrrhuloxia

He has the soundest clue analysis by far. This is a much better way to choose than what someone did last game/what they say they will do this game.

Its much harder for a mafia to fake a good clue analysis (but still possible) than it is to just fake the town out by saying things like "I was a good townie last time!" ""I'm dedicated!"

I'm not going to tell everyone how to vote, but I would suggest it be done on clue analysis.
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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 17 2009 14:51 GMT
#215
On March 17 2009 17:41 semioldguy wrote:
I don't really want to be an elected official


So semi, if you don't really want to be an elected offcial, why are you running? I mean, electing someone that isn't motivated would be a pretty bad idea. Could you elaborate on your motivations for running a bit.
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dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
March 17 2009 15:03 GMT
#216
I've probably just missed it somewhere, but when does the voting for Sheriff and Mayor end? In the Day post, it only says that once elections are over, the Mayor will choose who to lynch and then the game will move to night. I'd just like to know because, with all the campaigning, I feel like this could be a very long day.
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0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
March 17 2009 15:39 GMT
#217
Great news guys: I've been blessed with the green/townie role again this time!

I vote for semioldguy. Seems to me that he has the slightest chance of being mafia. That Bloody is getting so many votes makes me worried.
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
March 17 2009 15:44 GMT
#218
I place my vote for semioldguy for town sheriff.
Time for some Revolution !
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
March 17 2009 16:18 GMT
#219
I vote for semioldguy.

Fusiondf, but isn't trying so hard to blame on someone after the first story a little bit suspicious?

Also, i don't like that >80% of the people playing this are being sheep and either go with the bandwagon or vote by "personal relations".
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 17 2009 16:27 GMT
#220
I don't really buy the shockwave = Pika Chu clue. It seems far too easy to pick up on. I think if anything this

But while he did so the mafia lowering himself sprinted toward Chuiu and with his hands still behind his head grabbed the gun and threw it to the side. He tackled Chuiu to the ground and then ran over to the gun and armed himself with it.


is a better clue to analyze/figure out.

Think about it... something ran over and forcefully disarmed Chuiu all while looking like this the entire time:

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