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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
i'm not sure if a 1:1 mapping of names in clues to mafia members exists. my doubt is being supported by xDark.Carnivalx's list of mafia names containing 17 names of mafias mentioned in the clues so far, whereas we have 20 mafias playing the game. my list of possible suspects has no intersection with yours at all because we use completely different interpretation methods. maybe i do stuff too superficially, but it might also be that you think too complex. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
four men intercepted them + death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse ? Just a thought, there are also colours associated with them. | ||
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Hollander
Norway13 Posts
On March 22 2008 20:29 Plexa wrote: Eddie and Joe seem quite friendly.. Also, Eddie is a leader figure who're helpful, protecting and kind towards his peers, but ruthless when it hits the fan. Sound like anyone we know?+ Show Spoiler [eddie] + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. - Seems to be the leader of the group - Likes to kick (Tekken reference?) - Seems to get lucky/panicky | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On March 22 2008 21:56 Scorch wrote: Eventually w'ere bound to have some intersections and then bingo! At least thats my rationalei like your character analysis, Plexa. it shows you really put thought into this. but i don't know if this works out. Chuiu would have to have designed almost complete character profiles (one for each mafia) before the start of the game. while this might be possible, i think it is too much work even for our crazy workhorse Chuiu. plus, he wouldn't easily be able to reflect a mafia's posting/acting behaviour during the game, and everything would screw up when a mafia changes his signature. doing clues more or less spontaneously on a day-per-day basis yields much more flexibility. i'm not sure if a 1:1 mapping of names in clues to mafia members exists. my doubt is being supported by xDark.Carnivalx's list of mafia names containing 17 names of mafias mentioned in the clues so far, whereas we have 20 mafias playing the game. my list of possible suspects has no intersection with yours at all because we use completely different interpretation methods. maybe i do stuff too superficially, but it might also be that you think too complex. On March 22 2008 21:59 ZBiR wrote: Nice find! + = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse ? Just a thought, there are also colours associated with them. Without a doubt that Sidewinder = the pale horse + Show Spoiler + sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder <=> The word used to describe the colour of the 'pale' horse is the Greek word chloros or green. It is meant to convey the sickly green tinge of the deathly ill or recently dead. Since the literal translation 'green' does not carry these connotations in English the word is rendered 'pale' in most English translations. Eddie is the leader hence obviously the "White Horse" imo + Show Spoiler + The rider of the white horse is very commonly interpreted to be the Antichrist figure, but such an interpretation ignores much of the imagery presented throughout the Revelation and many cross references of whom the Bible names as being given a crown. For instance, every other time the colour white is used in the Revelation, it is always representative of righteousness and holiness, and whenever the author, John, depicts a malevolent force, he consistently shows it as evil (the two beasts of chapter 13, or the scarlet beast and the prostitute of chapter 17). Because of this, there is no reason to interpret the white horse as representing anything other than something/someone that is righteous and holy. Even the terminology “conquering and to conquer” alludes to a righteous person, as the Greek term used here is used throughout the New Testament as a word meaning “to overcome” and “to be victorious.” In the 23 other times it is used in the New Testament (15 times in the Revelation alone), 22 of those instances refer to Christ or to His followers overcoming evil. So, in this 24th instance of the word (one of 15 times in the Revelation), it should be taken to mean the same thing: a righteous or holy force who is able to overcome and gain victory. Also, considering the rider is given a crown (something only seen to be given to Jesus or the 24 elders -- Daniel 7:13, 14, 27; Luke 1:31-33; Revelation 4:4, 10; 14:14), one would come to the conclusion the rider of the white horse is an individual on the side of good. Or it could be the antichrist in disguise, it is said that the antichrist would seem pure, and make himself seem righteous and working for peace while actually deceiving mankind. Blackmamba = black and mrpink = red + Show Spoiler + Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. <=> The rider of the second horse is generally held to represent War. The red colour of his horse represents blood spilled on the battlefield. He carries a greatsword, which represents battle and fighting. The Red Horse is also said to represent the Planet Mars. However, Blackmamba really doesn't have any connection bar his name This might mean that the four are connected somehow through some common feature.. i have an idea what this is but ill keep working on it before presenting a premature theaory | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
if i think about it, my last post comes around quite naive. it's highly probable that there is a clue name for each mafia player. what i meant to say was: while you try to find character traits and features for mafias, i search for things they actually DO, and words in the clue text that hint towards them. please just continue your way, you just might convince me in the future  my top suspects for now remain Hittegods, Ghar and L. see if you can find something against them. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On March 22 2008 20:29 Plexa wrote: This is really clutching at straws but i suspect LucasWoJ Lucas -> George Lucas and WoJ -> Warriors of Justice, something starwars affiliated The justice side of things seem to coincide with Wolf's respectful side of things and that he is doing this for a just casue. While the made his mark clue leads on to the fact that he is WoJ. That in addition to his low activity between day 1-day2 leads me to beleive that he is Wolf. WoJ doesn't stand for Warriors of Justice, but even if it did, it would be ridiculous for Chuiu to decide that that's what it stands for. I can follow your accusations until the "made his mark" clue, Warriors of Justice aside, but I can't even defend "make your mark" because it seems so random. What's the reasoning behind the "meet your mark" leading to me"? I think that's completely far fetched, and is not a clue in my direction. I understand we're just shooting for anything here, but that accusation is just ridiculous and faulty (and Ace asked us not too). Assume a clue read "And he yelled loudly..." To imitate what you just did, I could turn around and say that this clue points to Shallow[bay] since bay stands for BrothersAreYelling. He must be the Yeller! Excluding his day 1 posts, his posts also added nothing except confusion within the town (I don't actually believe that; if anyone had any problems with his posts, they should've just read past them.) Lastly Plexa, I'm not sure why anyone would even make such wild accusations. Why even bother convincing the town of something that seems skeptical to you? | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On March 22 2008 22:17 LucasWoJ wrote: WoJ doesn't stand for Warriors of Justice, but even if it did, it would be ridiculous for Chuiu to decide that that's what it stands for. I can follow your accusations until the "made his mark" clue, Warriors of Justice aside, but I can't even defend "make your mark" because it seems so random. What's the reasoning behind the "meet your mark" leading to me"? I think that's completely far fetched, and is not a clue in my direction. I understand we're just shooting for anything here, but that accusation is just ridiculous and faulty (and Ace asked us not too). Assume a clue read "And he yelled loudly..." To imitate what you just did, I could turn around and say that this clue points to Shallow[bay] since bay stands for BrothersAreYelling. He must be the Yeller! Excluding his day 1 posts, his posts also added nothing except confusion within the town (I don't actually believe that; if anyone had any problems with his posts, they should've just read past them.) Lastly Plexa, I'm not sure why anyone would even make such wild accusations. Why even bother convincing the town of something that seems skeptical to you? What does WoJ stand for? | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
Let's be careful when we convict anyone based solely on that clue alone. It can already lead to two people just by examining everyone's quote (and definitely more by looking through their profile) and if look at anything else, the suspect list is definitely going to grow. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On March 22 2008 22:20 Camlito wrote: What does WoJ stand for? That's irrelevant. Still, it used to stand for WaysoftheJedi, but once again, Chuiu could not even begin to assume that. Now that clan is long gone  | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
And theres probably something with the *face 2 face* from day 1 and*climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.* ill check this out later | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
 And yes i 100% with the statement that a clue can go multiple ways (i could miss something etc) and thats fine by me - the longer the game goes the more accurate the character description becomes and the more accurate the predictions are... its only night one, take a chill pill oh and the WoJ thing came from a simple google search of your name | ||
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On March 22 2008 20:40 araav wrote: ...(edited out 'cause it's irrelevant) and if a paramedic happened to save me, thanks and please pm me, you must be sure i am a townie if i was saved. will try to contribute later You would know if a paramedic was protecting you should you have incurred a hit as it is stated in the game rules. You could have been protected by a paramedic but not get hit, if you didn't get a PM about it. (correct me if I'm wrong here please, but I'm positive that I'm right) I didn't read through the clue interpretations (I skipped them on purpose so I can post my own ideas), I have an even stronger suspicion about Ghar than I had the day before, therefore I'll vote for him (pretty soon). I guess it's kinda obvious, but I'll toss this in here anyway: it's because the "being sorrounded" quotes. 2 of the very same kind, imo, can't be a coincidence. Edit: Bolded Ghar's name and added reason | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious" --- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On March 22 2008 22:55 LucasWoJ wrote: With regard to WoJ? it would be a simple connection to the clan tag really.. could be applicable to a number of peopleYes, but I'd like to establish myself as innocent from the beginning. If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious" --- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
There is almost nothing pointing towards him in any way. He was a strong supporter of Ace and hasn't posted during the night/day2. His quote possibly could be loosely linked to the deaths of blue/yogurt but really thats just stretching it. Ghar Outside of campaigning fucking hard for mayor, he hasn't posted a thing. His quote and country add up, and possibly could be Taipen snake. However, if he were Taipen then his quote wouldn't exactly apply to the happenings in the night (but the inactivity of Taipen in the 2nd night coincides with his absence). Thus there is a possibility, but a very small one. L Yet another player who dropped off suddenly after the Mayoral race; supporter of Randombum and also took a very mathematical approach to the game. He seemed to err on the side of caution with regard to empyrean, and well there isn't much to go on in terms of clues. On March 22 2008 23:13 ZBiR wrote: The whole thing about making a mark on somebody's head is taken from the movie Kill Bill, there was that scene during the wedding when Bill says something similar to what The Wolf said and shoots Uma Thurman in the head. movie references > me obviously | ||
Empyrean
16986 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
day1 He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake... day2 climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged... unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O edit: ok current suspect list for this quote (thx to heros)pink contribution) in order of likelyhood (completely imho) nemy - profile Pic, chick looking at her face in mirror RowdierBob - profile pic, animation guys looking at each other heros)pink - profile pic, 2 people looking in each other's eyes (trading glares )omfghi2u2 - name LemMe - quote, what's up | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On March 22 2008 23:32 JeeJee wrote: a recurring statement: day1 day2 unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O edit: just went through myself.. only things i've found were nemY's chick looking at her face in the mirror RowdierBob's animation with 2 guys looking at each other well from names and quote theres nothing really. Omfghi2u2 and LenWe (quote = whats up) or something like that he's liek #128 or so PS: that just show how weak that clue is atm :p Edit: wow i just realise it could be me lol! | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia | ||
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