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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On March 21 2008 05:15 Ziel wrote: O rly? What if they havent had the time to post yet or somein? Like inControl? That would plain suck ay. I didn't say it is a proof, just an indication. If i was a Detective, I'd warn the public as soon as possible to prevent blues from reporting to Ace. So don't worry too much. It's been some time already, but feel free to wait a bit longer if you want. On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote: Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him? Don't forget that Ace could simply be lying about having been roleblocked. I don't think so though. I can't quickly think of a scenario where Ace could profit from this lie if he was mafia. And I'm sure he knows that townies shouldn't lie either. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:02 Chuiu wrote: Just to clear something up, Detectives could have and may have been using their roles since I gave them to them. Like, ie: during the election. There is no restriction to when they can ask me a question just that they may only ask me one question per day/night cycle. Do you answer immediately to them or do you wait for day? | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
Seriously, we should wait a bit longer before PMing Ace, just to be on the safe side. | ||
Kau
Canada3500 Posts
On March 21 2008 05:10 qrs wrote: It's not that dumb. Assuming that all blues (+ fake-blues) send in their roles as they are supposed to, it makes absolutely no difference whether the rest of us officially declare townie or not. No one's going to declare Mafia, and anyone who was going to declare roleplayer should have done that. But on second thought, I concede that if we are afraid that some blues will stay low for whatever reason (although they shouldn't) and we are afraid of lynching them by mistake then the "I am townie" statement does do something: it tells the mayor "I am not an inactive blue". It does make a difference if townies have to pm because it forces the mafia to pm too, because ideally, every townie and every blue would have pm'ed Ace, so the only ones who have not pm'ed would be mafia. If we had it so that no townie had to pm, then mafia can just do nothing. | ||
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French_Toast
United States99 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote: Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that. Perhaps you didn't see what happened in the last game; it was a worse rape than the OSL finals. The town needs to get it's act together this time, and start making a comeback. Also, the plan isn't that bad. It gives a known townie information, which always helps, and he can use that to reduce the odds of hitting town instead of mafia. | ||
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French_Toast
United States99 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:22 CDRdude wrote: Perhaps you didn't see what happened in the last game; it was a worse rape than the OSL finals. The town needs to get it's act together this time, and start making a comeback. Also, the plan isn't that bad. It gives a known townie information, which always helps, and he can use that to reduce the odds of hitting town instead of mafia. I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. I agree, this game is all about challenge, it isnt a game about Lets ALL play with our roles revealed so that we can Kill mafia Easly, thats what is happening atm. people thinking that way (theres a shit load of poeple wanting this) should just not play as simple as that. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
They are QQing! | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: errrr...actually the reason most people don't lose to that is because if you can see it coming (and usually from the first move you can) it's pretty easy to stop. (unless you're thinking of something else)I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. Anyways, it kinda sounds like someone's just sore that mafia is gonna lose ...hmmm?  Also if we were doing anything illegal I'm sure Chuiu would've just stopped us, and it's not like this strategy is insta-win (far from it). If mafia is even slightly clever they'll be able to get around this. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:42 Falcynn wrote: errrr...actually the reason most people don't lose to that is because if you can see it coming (and usually from the first move you can) it's pretty easy to stop. (unless you're thinking of something else) Anyways, it kinda sounds like someone's just sore that mafia is gonna lose ...hmmm? Also if we were doing anything illegal I'm sure Chuiu would've just stopped us, and it's not like this strategy is insta-win (far from it). If mafia is even slightly clever they'll be able to get around this. Exactly the point, hence my post above yours, haha | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. First off, it's better not to overestimate ourselves. We'll have some noobs, and some smarter people, there's no stopping that. On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. For your information I have read the thread, and I known this. The list of people's names and sigs has been posted in the thread a long time ago. I also take offense at the implication that I haven't read the posts.[/quote] On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. How do you know we won't need it? I'm not psychic, and I don't think you are either. The mafia can still kill a lot of people every night. On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. A fools-mate basically never happens. It's an example of the fastest possible checkmate. Fools-mate is theorycrafting that requires both sides to try achieve it. This game is already challenging. It's not our job to balance, it's Chuiu and Dapperdan's. Besides--winning is fun. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:36 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I agree, this game is all about challenge, it isnt a game about Lets ALL play with our roles revealed so that we can Kill mafia Easly, thats what is happening atm. people thinking that way (theres a shit load of poeple wanting this) should just not play as simple as that. May I remind you two that there is no safe way of revealing one's role? People can just lie without easily being noticed, you know? Ace's strategy is forcing mafia to do just that: lie. Town is far from winning. It's just one step in building up information and spotting contratictions to hopefully catch a couple of mafia in the end. How can you come to the conclusion that this strategy is cheap? | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On March 21 2008 06:51 Scorch wrote: May I remind you two that there is no safe way of revealing one's role? People can just lie without easily being noticed, you know? Ace's strategy is forcing mafia to do just that: lie. Town is far from winning. It's just one step in building up information and spotting contratictions to hopefully catch a couple of mafia in the end. How can you come to the conclusion that this strategy is cheap? What i meant is that its freaking boring, but thats just me, im still gonna play the game even with this ass strategy, but i wont pm my role and thats my right. u can put me on ur mafia list, I dont care, just cause im against the town's strategy then go on. Thats what happened last game poeple were being lynch just because some people didnt like them and then every other player did the same without a clue. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
On March 21 2008 04:25 Fishball wrote: I call mafia Townies can't be that dumb, right?! Vigil get him gogo I'm a vanilla townie. There I did it. How is that dumb? | ||
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