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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 23 2008 15:49 GMT
#5741
I love you.
sAviOr...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 15:51 GMT
#5742
love you too cam
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 16:09:39
May 23 2008 16:04 GMT
#5743
+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife.

Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.
Okay, once again, this could be awhile but lets gooooo

Today we're considering SpiritOfTheTuna as CottonMouth

1) He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. ==> Note how CM didn't get hit by this at all

2) managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more ==> note that it seems that CottonMouth has this extra dimension of perception

3) He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate ==> note that its just like they appeared

4) As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. ==> No physical contact apart from the nails hitting him

5) Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him ==> its almost like hes invisible

6) Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength ==> CM can pick up stuff strangely fast, and isn't hit at all still

7) Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. ==> CM can't do this because he is only a spirit

8&9)Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. ==> Once again no physical contact apart from the weapons

10) Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie ==> symbol of the occult and related to spirits directly

Associate also brought my attention recently in his efforts to crack CM that SpiritOfTheTuna has 15 letters. This coincides greatly with our mafioso. He is also on the Mandalor list - increasing his chances

On these grounds i call SpiritoftheTuna mafioso!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 23 2008 16:13 GMT
#5744
I love you again.


this game is so tense now and i've thought we would lose for ages, but i think since mafia take so long now they might be pressured, which gives me a good feeling, because we have plexa.

<3
sAviOr...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 16:29:34
May 23 2008 16:19 GMT
#5745
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 23 2008 16:50 GMT
#5746
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
Show nested quote +
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
Show nested quote +
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 23 2008 16:52 GMT
#5747
On May 24 2008 00:24 Plexa wrote:
Thus it leads me to conclude, that Mr Pink cannot be anyone in this fucking game apart from LTT

LTT is on bumatlarge's list of innocents, which has proven correct so far. I doubt that he's Mafia.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=36#704
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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
May 23 2008 16:55 GMT
#5748
so what;s the plan lynch Oc34253245dfafaf and see if he is in fact green...or are you going to call him innocent and assume it is random?

I think the safer play is Oc342525dfa lynch along with another "known" mafia, and see what happens. The Pardoner doesn't have much power but I'd rather have a chance at another green alive with the little protection we have of one bodyguard as opposed to lynching an innocent pardoner.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 17:05:50
May 23 2008 16:56 GMT
#5749
If you pardoned someone that we were sure were mafia (i.e: unforgiven) its obvious you were mafia, or incredibly stupid. Decafchicken stupid.

edit: suresh0t, after all game of thinking your mafia, i forgive you for having an obvious name relating to clues. (i don't think your mafia )

edit2: also since when was bumatlarge' list reliable? i thought he was not a detective..
sAviOr...
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
May 23 2008 16:57 GMT
#5750
On May 24 2008 01:52 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 00:24 Plexa wrote:
Thus it leads me to conclude, that Mr Pink cannot be anyone in this fucking game apart from LTT

LTT is on bumatlarge's list of innocents, which has proven correct so far. I doubt that he's Mafia.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=36#704



That is a good point. Hey look...me and qrs are getting along .. ish!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 16:59 GMT
#5751
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:01 GMT
#5752
Summary of tonights findings before i sleep;

What me and associate agree on;
JimTudor is Mr Black
LTT is Mr Pink
SpiritOfTheTuna is CottonMouth
jtan as mafia
nemY is innocent (the clue we were pinning him on is shared by Alventenie ie impossible for the two to be differentiated)

What we disagree on;
Randombum vs 0cz3c for CopperHead
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:04 GMT
#5753
On May 24 2008 01:57 suresh0t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:52 qrs wrote:
On May 24 2008 00:24 Plexa wrote:
Thus it leads me to conclude, that Mr Pink cannot be anyone in this fucking game apart from LTT

LTT is on bumatlarge's list of innocents, which has proven correct so far. I doubt that he's Mafia.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=36#704



That is a good point. Hey look...me and qrs are getting along .. ish!
one must remember that bumatlarge had no special role or anything. His list is based on no fact - It's waffly evidence, like my controversial list, it doesn't hold up against the strong hard evidence like clue connections. And in reality, do we have a better fit for the information?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:06 GMT
#5754
On May 24 2008 01:55 suresh0t wrote:
so what;s the plan lynch Oc34253245dfafaf and see if he is in fact green...or are you going to call him innocent and assume it is random?

I think the safer play is Oc342525dfa lynch along with another "known" mafia, and see what happens. The Pardoner doesn't have much power but I'd rather have a chance at another green alive with the little protection we have of one bodyguard as opposed to lynching an innocent pardoner.
I'm going to die, Ace is going to die, randombum isn't going to die

thats your clue - that or if copperhead continues to be random; in which case its a fairly safe lynch given the stakes.

Tomorrow we lynch the other 3-4 suspects and narrow things down a bit and wait for Chuiu to reveal to us the randomness
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 23 2008 17:09 GMT
#5755
On May 24 2008 01:59 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head b
etween the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else


If I were a mafia pardoner I could easily pardon somebody who some people were against lynching (L). The only way to see if he is red is to keep lynching him (since vigs are dead), whom I could pardon again. Then the only thing left is if the town (which is not entirely sure) wants L dead, they have to lynch me first. Which would sow confusion and distrust, which alone would be worth it if I was mafia. Also, how does being in a position of power (Which isn't all that useful, my only hope of using it is if ace went nuts and used his +6 vote to lynch plexa). If I were to have pardoned a mafia I would have done it early game to keep mafia kill count up.

Ultimately, staying in this position as mafia would help the mafia less than to have a few extra kills for a few more nights.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 23 2008 17:10 GMT
#5756
LOL at plexa's quadrupple post before me
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:15 GMT
#5757
On May 24 2008 02:09 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:59 Plexa wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head b
etween the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else


If I were a mafia pardoner I could easily pardon somebody who some people were against lynching (L). The only way to see if he is red is to keep lynching him (since vigs are dead), whom I could pardon again. Then the only thing left is if the town (which is not entirely sure) wants L dead, they have to lynch me first. Which would sow confusion and distrust, which alone would be worth it if I was mafia. Also, how does being in a position of power (Which isn't all that useful, my only hope of using it is if ace went nuts and used his +6 vote to lynch plexa). If I were to have pardoned a mafia I would have done it early game to keep mafia kill count up.

Ultimately, staying in this position as mafia would help the mafia less than to have a few extra kills for a few more nights.
But the position keeps you "off the radar" (or at least has done). But yes, let's continue to argue you conduct. Myself, Ace and MTF knew L was mafia and if you had stepped in you would have been found out rather easily. This goes for the majority of other lynchings - remember that we scored a number of mafia kills via vigilantes in the early days - proving your pardoning powers useless anyway.

You haven't addressed a number of issues but w/e. As i outlined before we just lynch others and wait for chuiu to force your hand (or mafia killing Ace et al but not you )
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 23 2008 17:20 GMT
#5758
On May 22 2008 14:45 qrs wrote:
Wow, the night posts are getting shorter and shorter. Pretty soon we'll be down to stuff like
[image loading]
qrs


oh i see what you did there...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 23 2008 17:20 GMT
#5759
On May 24 2008 02:15 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 02:09 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:59 Plexa wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head b
etween the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else


If I were a mafia pardoner I could easily pardon somebody who some people were against lynching (L). The only way to see if he is red is to keep lynching him (since vigs are dead), whom I could pardon again. Then the only thing left is if the town (which is not entirely sure) wants L dead, they have to lynch me first. Which would sow confusion and distrust, which alone would be worth it if I was mafia. Also, how does being in a position of power (Which isn't all that useful, my only hope of using it is if ace went nuts and used his +6 vote to lynch plexa). If I were to have pardoned a mafia I would have done it early game to keep mafia kill count up.

Ultimately, staying in this position as mafia would help the mafia less than to have a few extra kills for a few more nights.
But the position keeps you "off the radar" (or at least has done). But yes, let's continue to argue you conduct. Myself, Ace and MTF knew L was mafia and if you had stepped in you would have been found out rather easily. This goes for the majority of other lynchings - remember that we scored a number of mafia kills via vigilantes in the early days - proving your pardoning powers useless anyway.

You haven't addressed a number of issues but w/e. As i outlined before we just lynch others and wait for chuiu to force your hand (or mafia killing Ace et al but not you )



Let's just wait then, because to be honest, I don't feel up to trying to out sway the town vs plexa. If you really want to wait to kill me the I'll die, thats sort of it.

Also killing ace but not killing me would not prove me mafia. It would have if you did not mention it, but now that you have mafia might let me live just so the town wastes a lynch on me. Ace would die because he has all the information and can lead the town far better than I can.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 23 2008 17:23 GMT
#5760
On May 24 2008 02:20 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2008 14:45 qrs wrote:
Wow, the night posts are getting shorter and shorter. Pretty soon we'll be down to stuff like
[image loading]
qrs


oh i see what you did there...

Don't read too much into it. I didn't want to use any particular person's name, so I used mine.
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