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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
March 28 2008 20:57 GMT
#3401
On March 29 2008 05:38 Lenwe wrote:
That would be an absolute waste. If Ace is indeed mafia a DT would have spoken up ages ago and since none of them did, we can safely assume he is in fact a townie.

On the 0,00001% chance that noone of the DT's checked him: Then we are screwed anyway, since the mafia have a list of pretty much every blue in the game and it is game over.

So why would we waste a valuable DT question on something that we already know. Why are people still so worried about this Ace being mafia thing, while the chance of him being so is nearly 0% (once again, if he is our DT's screwed up and this is pretty much gg). Why not use that question to gain more information and proceed with Ace's plan, which so far has made perfect sense and has led us to our first mafia kill.

Start worrying about other people's behaviour and start linking clue's to them. Post those results here in public or pm them to Ace telling him to post it in public if you are afraid for your own life.


Well, we'd also know whether or not araav were mafia or town. Apparently, according to Showtime (what's his deal, anyway), araav's figured out some way to break into some "secret IRC channel" or something.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 28 2008 21:41 GMT
#3402
Isn't it a good idea to force all suspects we have to vote on one person and then use the detective check to see how many of them are mafia? This could help us weed out innocent players that would otherwise get lynched.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 28 2008 22:31 GMT
#3403
Why I don't like Showtime!
A statement by CDRdude


First off, I am not unique in my dislike of this man. I don't know Showtime! in real life, so I judge him by what I see of him; Showtime!'s posts on Teamliquid. I am not impressed. From my observation, nearly everyone in this thread detests his ignorant, spiteful, and melodramatic posts. His comments are not intelligent, but designed to provoke antagonism, and petty bickering. In the words of the man himself, "I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one". That's lovely, why don't you make one yourself? Let's start off with a look at his posting record, separated into categories for your convenience. This is not all of his posts, but many of them.

Ignorant posts:
There are less of these than the others, Showtime! is more troll than newbie trying to understand the rules.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2008 13:29 Showtime! wrote:
He hasn't voted therefore he is inactive therefore he isn't even in the game anymore considering voting has officially closed. Pick someone else.

To put this in context, this is in relation to Ace's instant-lynch of {88}iNcontroL. This is ignorant, because he clearly has either ignored, or not understood the process of selection.

On March 20 2008 13:42 Showtime! wrote:
The guy didn't even look to see who was active.

Dumbest move ever.

This is either one of the most ignorant comments Showtime! has made, or it is a troll. Neither is desired.

On March 20 2008 13:45 Showtime! wrote:
Not only that he didn't even look to see who !@#$%! voted beforehand. He killed someone who wasn't even still in the game = uncool especially with all the damage he could have done.

Likewise, this is either supreme ignorance, or a troll.

On March 20 2008 14:18 Showtime! wrote:
I don't care because I'm a townie like I said before and congratz. The sooner, the better because it would be another waste of a lynch and too be honest I don't think you have much of a prayer.

Of course the saboteur would use it on the first night so you wouldn't be able to get one of them.

It is basic logic you goof. The fact of the matter is you voted Inc with no ground or basis other than hanging low.

If you read the rules you would have known he was already out of the game. Hence a waste, hence you could have used someone else's hunch.

And if you had read the rules, you would know that you are only removed from the game after missing two votes in a row. However, I believe this post was made in ignorance, rather than trolling, in spite of it's hostile tone.

On March 25 2008 04:25 Showtime! wrote:
Perhaps. They might roleblock randombum and attempt to vote you out, no? lol which would be stupid because then we'll know who the mafia is ha!

It is almost guaranteed. They will roleblock you again Ace. So 1) we cannot double lynch, 2) kill your voting power.

This was made after Ace was roleblocked the previous day, the rules state that you cannot roleblock someone twice in a row.



Trolling / antagonistic posts:
If you've read very much of the thread, you know what I'm talking about. The norm for Showtime! is belittling others, while lionizing himself (and once in a while, he plays the victim). Other times, his posts are just rude and sarcastic.
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On March 20 2008 11:10 Showtime! wrote:
Emp, you didn't think I knew that already?

Of course. You just wanted the POWA.

But, yeah I must admit it was stupid of you to come out and confess.

Probably not designed to be a troll, but his post here is unnecessarily antagonistic, not to mention arrogant.

On March 20 2008 13:40 Showtime! wrote:
Next time how about you ask before you start wasting your powers?

God -_-;;

What a waste.

In response to Ace's instant-lynch of {88}iNcontroL.

On March 20 2008 13:47 Showtime! wrote:
I read all your lousy posts.

Like I said I know of 5 people who would have been better. PM me.

This is directly after his whining about Ace's selection of instant-lynch (whining because he lynched an inactive). This excellently showcases Showtime!'s arrogance, ignorance, and desire for attention.

On March 20 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah because active people are more likely to be mafia let alone pissed off when their mayor votes out someone who wasn't even playing the damn game. Wake up people!

On top of that why would I want the mafia to know whether or not I am on the right track in the first place?

That is really smart.

While his comment is reasonable, his sarcastic tone is...less so.

On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote:
ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game?

I think someone needs a lollipop.

Too bad I don't have any special powers.

Oh, wait: to annoy!

That last line is quite true

On March 20 2008 14:21 Showtime! wrote:
The only players playing are those who voted or abstrained from voting. Read the damn rules, God.

As I mentioned previously, this is incorrect. Unlike before, this is needlessly aggressive.

On March 20 2008 14:30 Showtime! wrote:
ShaLLoW needs a kleenex box guys.


On March 22 2008 01:14 Showtime! wrote:
We're onto him. Yes I just wanted to point it out again. Albino's are bad! :X

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but it isn't the only time he's made borderline racist comments.

On March 24 2008 09:25 Showtime! wrote:
What gives you any authority to say that oh wise one?

There are many references that could link Ghar to Eddie. There is no denying it.

Pointless, unhelpful and sarcastic.

On March 24 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote:
What did you expect?

Regular townies still have a lot of input and of course it will be a little boring for regular townies. We have to vote on the process of elimination and sure bets.

Smarten up.


On March 25 2008 05:34 Showtime! wrote:
I lol'ed.

Apparently the mafia has no other choice but to attack in twos. Super gay. With all this double-teaming going around they should call this game The Gay Mafia

Mr. Pink: 'Hey there precious! How'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie?'

Proceed to Shallow getting boned, etc.


Necrophilia loving.

While there is a possibility that his homophobic remarks are in jest, this does not leave me with a good impression.

On March 25 2008 11:47 Showtime! wrote:
Perhaps they're a bunch of gay robots.

Heh, heh. Good times. Heh, heh.

Cannot touch this!!

Amber what the hell have you been smoking?!?!

I need some of that.

The gay remarks keep coming. The last time I recall using gay as an insult was middle school, and even then I outgrew it quickly (although that may have had something to do with my proximity to San Francisco).

On March 25 2008 11:58 Showtime! wrote:
I DRINK BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY! AND I'M UNHAPPY BECAUSE I DRINK!!
***
Lucas, I'm going to share a secret with you.
Come closer. Closer,
c-l-o-s-e-r my child
Listen..
Just listen.
Listen closely.
The Mafia, the Mafia is the g-e-y!!
***
It took me about five days of mediation and drinking to come to this conclusion. Use it well.

Yeah that was a pretty dumb move Emp. I have no idea what they are thinking.

The above post edited to remove unnecessary whitespace.

On March 25 2008 22:05 Showtime! wrote:
KILL THE !@#$!

He's one of them. Let him bleed!! KILL the PILIPINO!!

If you aren't with US you are ONE of THEM, ONE of THEM!!

Ninja star attack!!

Because Plexa if it isn't him then it is only two other people. We've narrowed it down and if he wants to be a little bitch, well to be frank he deserves to get his teeth kicked into the curb like the rebel he is!

Communists for the win! Fascists for the win!


On March 25 2008 22:15 Showtime! wrote:
No, it doesn't take away from the game because as a regular townie you can still post, PM clues and shit like be part of the strategy, you stubborn dingbat. Wow, some people. I guess we won't set a new record then for 100+ players in record time then. I say we kill all 4 leads because we're better off with out those dumbfucks and their E-Drama.

We need those who will work with us, not against us.

I don't know who said 'dumbfucks' are, but I think I know the source of most of the drama.

On March 25 2008 23:53 Showtime! wrote:
NO PILPINO sounds better :D!!

You are such a Phillips head.

I was going to call you a towel, but Phillips head sounds better.

Stop grinding my gears you terrorist!

In response to wurm correcting him on the spelling of Filipino.


On March 26 2008 02:20 Showtime! wrote:
No, he's just trying to start shit.

Got to love the E-Drama a good old game of Gey Mafia brings.

This one might be an inane comment, but given his apparent homophobia, I'll categorize this as a troll.

On March 26 2008 08:52 Showtime! wrote:
no shit, use your head

fuck, I thought I had cottonmouth. God damnit, back to the drawing board. T_T

I think he's talking to JeeJee here, but no matter who it is, it's offensive and pointless.

On March 26 2008 16:24 Showtime! wrote:
You are blinder and dumber than I thought.

bye bye kiwi.


On March 26 2008 20:24 Showtime! wrote:
First of all, I don't have to post shit in response to your retardness because why would I plant anything in the mafia's head? Do you think I'm stupid? Get your head out of your ass. You really couldn't buy a clue. :. you must be mafia. You have no idea of who my suspects are dumbass. Do you honestly think I would post my elaborate plan for the public? I don't think so. I'm glad you're going to be gone soon.

Naaaa, naaaa, na, naaaa, naaaa, naaaa, heeeeey, heeeeey, heeeeey goooood-bye!


On March 27 2008 21:12 Showtime! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2008 16:23 wurm wrote:
JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him


omfg, this is the clue that Chezinu and Showtime! linked me to? HAHAHAHAHA..

woo.. i needed a good laugh.


Learn to fucking read. Now go back a few pages, read what I said and then stfu. It's people like you who make the world go round you stupid towelhead.

And to aavar leave the clue detecting to the smart people because it sounds like you're on a wild goose chase that is leading to nowhere. Who knows? Perhaps you are mafia because almost all of your targets have been ludicrous, but it helps because I know of more than a few people who are trying to swing votes around to the town.

Keep it up, easier to catch you.


On March 28 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2008 13:53 Alethios wrote:
On March 28 2008 01:46 Ace wrote:
LucasWoj said he protected showtime who got hit

No Vigilante put a hit on Showtime, therefore Showtime is Innocent

From what you've told us, they could both be Evil Bastards. Lying about being hit isn't too hard, can imagine it would be a pretty clever ploy from both of them to gain our trust. Or am I missing something?


i just had to point this out again.

my God, how do you sleep at night?


On March 28 2008 23:32 Showtime! wrote:
Maybe you should take your own advice for once and stop trolling. Seriously though, I would settle this person to person because some people just deserve a beating. Stupid Armenians. I already had to deal with one before and stop pretending to be the village idiot because we all know you were there hackz.

I'm finished with you and your gey antics.

Go find some kleenex because nobody likes you.

cry baby

and learn english - it is demeaning

Racism, homophobia, rudeness and threats of bodily harm. Showtime!'s got it all, doesn't he?

On March 28 2008 23:56 Showtime! wrote:
rofl go get a life

i find it funny that someone would lie about something so trivial.

it is stupid townies that are slowing us down. we already wasted two rolechecks on people -- i always figured the guy was clean and i never put him on my list especially considering chuiu didn't want to do anything about it in the first place = dead giveaway.

the guy really must have no life

what a sad little, little man

i'm starting to feel sorry for the guy - his buttons are way too easy to push


On March 29 2008 00:57 Showtime! wrote:
no so far kau they're all townies and you guys keep forgetting something - i could just get pardoned by randombum

all you guys are doing is wasting more time and proving me right again

keep going after townies while the mafia looks on which is really smart - some of you really need to learn to lighten up a bit

it's kind of sad

at this rate all the mafia have to do is sit back and bust out the popcorn. They could probably get away doing this for maybe 5 games and they'll keep winning this way

IQ of the town hmmm!

this is why i don't post anything public

The only place I've seen more arrogance than this is 4chan.

On March 29 2008 02:02 Showtime! wrote:
Ace confirmed it. A number of other people will be able to as well once the game is over.

I'm not going to discuss this again. Wait until the game ends and we'll give you guys our logs.

araav take my bet then unless you are scared you numbskull




Melodramatic posts:
(I tend to use melodramatic interchangeably with attention-whore)
Showtime! want's attention. Most of his posts in this section can be summed up as: 'I know something that you don't, but I'm not going to tell you.' In other words, Showtime! often claims to know mafioso, but never publicly reveals his suspects; only that he has them. Always, this begs the question of who they are. More rarely, he exaggerates the ill effects of a situation, attempting to play the sympathy card.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 19 2008 10:17 Showtime! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
35. Vharox
83. Chezinu


Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are.

You guys should vote on whether we should ban him

Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games.


That is obvious ban material. Get rid of him before he does damage to the game, or else we have to restart the game.

I consider this melodrama or at least overly dramatic, because of his appeal to fear and emotion (and he is ignoring logic) when he says we have to restart the game.

On March 20 2008 09:26 Showtime! wrote:
We're the mob. What do you expect?

Here, he just wants attention.

On March 20 2008 13:41 Showtime! wrote:
Considering Incontrol wasn't even active I think it would only be fair to give another townie the role of Mad Hatter.

I could have given you five better picks than him.

Really, this post falls into several categories. It's arrogant, and probably offensive to Chuiu. But most of all, it is an attention-whoreish post, much like Joseph McCarthy's famous list of communists. He mentions five better picks, but does not elaborate. He can argue that he is doing it to escape mafia attention, but the act of posting demands attention. Showtime! knows this well.

On March 20 2008 13:49 Showtime! wrote:
I'm not announcing it public. The fact of the matter is you could have killed 3 for the price of one if incontrol was even playing. We need another mad hatter.

This begs the question, why?

On March 20 2008 13:50 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah, like I want the mafia to know who I suspect. They're posting privately so I will as well.

This also falls under attention-whore because nobody had responded to him since his previous statement (directly above). If not for the attention, why would he post again, with no clarification asked for?

On March 20 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote:
hahaha

read between the lines and you tell me who you think I'm accusing. How about em' apples?

har har har

I'm sure he was very pleased with himself after he posted this one.

On March 24 2008 05:20 Showtime! wrote:
Ace, I already gave you my list. You know my answer.

Again, this begs the question of 'what list?'. If he had PMed a list to Ace, posting in the thread is entirely unnecessary.

On March 24 2008 16:01 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah, they already made a few mistakes. We have another three more lined up ready to kill.

And yet he declines to share any information. This is part inane commentary, and part attention-whore.

On March 26 2008 02:53 Showtime! wrote:
Um, we have a lot more than just 2 verified.

lol

Arrogant, and begs the question.

On March 26 2008 03:14 Showtime! wrote:
Maybe no one has any trust in you fanatacist to be divulging any info to you.

Like I said before, I know the mafia is going to try and hit me tonight.

I've done more than my fair share to help the Town win tyvm.

The clues Chuiu gave us have been extremely helpful and I have given more than a few people my list of 9-14 names.

If clue detecting isn't your thing leave it to someone else. Either way those people are going to get exposed soon.

Ace even said, "Tomorrow shit will really hit the fan." I couldn't agree anymore.

From what I can see, Showtime! really loves being above, or better than other people.

On March 26 2008 20:44 Showtime! wrote:
Our illogical Kiwi friend --> it goes back quite a few pages.

Now then, if any more 'rebels' want to fire more blanks in the dark --> get a clue beforehand because it's very unlikely you know our agenda.

In other words (for those who are slow around here), if all you do is read this thread then you probably have no idea what's really going on behind the scenes.

I'll bet you really love being "behind the scenes."

On March 27 2008 13:14 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah, looks like we'll have to go with Plan C. Got to thank the Mafia for one thing and one thing only. They made our double lynch a lot easier today.

I think we're going to have to get a IRC channel to discuss our next course of action.

When Showtime! writes 'we', I read 'Other people will make an IRC channel for me, and until then, I'll spam the thread some more.

On March 27 2008 13:25 Showtime! wrote:
I think I know who Black is, but I've been wrong before.


On March 28 2008 05:23 Showtime! wrote:
Ace I think it's time we schedule that meeting.

I don't want Lucas' death to go in vain.

There is no reason why this can't go in a PM, unless it is to draw attention to himself.

On March 28 2008 06:18 Showtime! wrote:
Once you get home check the channel. We need all the foot soldiers in there.





Inane commentary / Spam:
This is the majority of Showtime!'s posts. I haven't included all of them here, but the sheer volume should give you the idea. Showtime! has 'contributed' pages of useless spam to this thread, more than any other player. I think his need for attention compels him to post fluff, in order for recognition. However, this category is still distinct from the melodramatic. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate random humor as much as the next fellow, but enough is enough.[/i]
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 18 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote:
What I want to know is what the hell does he get out of doing all this for us? ._.


On March 20 2008 11:30 Showtime! wrote:
Too bad I don't have any power because then I could avenge the loss of Empyrean. We're going to lose a good player early. -_-


On March 20 2008 11:14 Showtime! wrote:
It was a smart strategic move of you at the start, but not anymore pal. I might have helped cause the turnover. My bad.

Showtime! admitting wrongdoing; I'm shocked.

On March 20 2008 13:27 Showtime! wrote:
Inc hasn't even voted you goof.

-_-

I love how we have to make everything public. It's so grand!


On March 20 2008 13:32 Showtime! wrote:
lynch pinky. show some authoritay.


On March 20 2008 13:34 Showtime! wrote:
lynch c0bbler for telling you to lay off.


On March 20 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote:
I haven't verified your role in this so why should I? Ninja!


On March 20 2008 13:59 Showtime! wrote:
I'm C.


On March 20 2008 14:01 Showtime! wrote:
I think you know more than you can chew nemY but what do I know?

I'm Irish and drunk.

Well, then send a detective and waste a turn on me for all I care.



On March 20 2008 14:06 Showtime! wrote:
I thought it was still St. Pat's = the official town drunk.


On March 20 2008 14:08 Showtime! wrote:
They did take out the biggest target per say.

phat move


On March 20 2008 14:24 Showtime! wrote:
let him be

I find it quite amusing

just ignore him if he bothers you that much

you may very well be this game as well

too bad I don't have any bombs to tie you up on


On March 20 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote:
No, I'm third generation.

No relation to the Black Donnelly's.

First of all, get your facts straight: I'm the Town Drunk. I should be able to toss beer bottles at people or have the option of slipping a roofie into someone's drink rendering them useless for one night. That would be a cool role.


On March 20 2008 14:41 Showtime! wrote:
What good would that do though? I didn't know the Human Torch was in this game. FLAME ON!?!?!?!



On March 21 2008 03:46 Showtime! wrote:
Ok, just wanted to clarify. Hopefully everyone plays by the honor code then.


On March 21 2008 04:42 Showtime! wrote:
I'm talking about Lysithea.


On March 21 2008 04:43 Showtime! wrote:
Or how about you go get whacked nemY? ;p


On March 21 2008 05:19 Showtime! wrote:
It was as if Incontrol didn't read up on all the rules beforehand.

Ace is clean.



On March 21 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote:
Heroes.


On March 21 2008 08:44 Showtime! wrote:
your welcome

feel free to add to the pile of barf

anyway we have some direction now thank you for being so active y'all


On March 21 2008 08:50 Showtime! wrote:
Naib, we better not find you sleeping in the same bed as Shallow's mom come morning that would really, really suck


On March 22 2008 01:42 Showtime! wrote:
It's Pinky and the Brain, Pinky and the Brain

One is a genius and the other is insane

to prove their mousy worth, they'll overtake the earth

they're Pinky, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain

Narf!!

No Hotbid, that would be just too convenient!!

I think the Mr. Pink clue could also be directed to sexsexpussyhair as well.


On March 22 2008 01:53 Showtime! wrote:
Why are you digging yourself into a bigger hole Heros?

One thing is certain, we need bigger clues.


On March 22 2008 06:33 Showtime! wrote:
Me too Empyrean.

Join the family T.T


On March 22 2008 06:40 Showtime! wrote:
No, but Empyrean is a sexy beast.

They kill him off and then we're down one sexy beast.

I mean w-t-f man! W--T--F.

I should make a 'Pray for Empyrean' sign.


On March 22 2008 06:43 Showtime! wrote:
Yes, but we need to keep as many of our sexy beasts as possible. I mean we already lost an ultralisk!


On March 23 2008 05:12 Showtime! wrote:
kill the !@#$!


On March 23 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote:
Not all of the detectives checked in yet? GAY.

Ace check your PMs. You must have around 30.

I mark this as inane, because I think that his use of the phrase 'gay' is not homophobic in nature

On March 23 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote:
My thoughts exactly. We need to fry the bigger fish and Ghar isn't it.


On March 23 2008 14:16 Showtime! wrote:
Son aren't you supposed to be hanging low my main man?


On March 23 2008 14:17 Showtime! wrote:
Yes, we know all Albino's are mafia. That is a given fact. Now sh!

I think he's joking here.

On March 23 2008 14:28 Showtime! wrote:
PM them ace. How much time do we have left until night?


On March 23 2008 14:33 Showtime! wrote:
He usually gives us some warning in advance anyway, bah. We need to avenge some of our comrades.


On March 23 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote:
But I want my vengeance now *pouts*

A good defense is a good offense.


On March 23 2008 23:28 Showtime! wrote:
NO, it's because we have bigger fish to fry.


On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote:
At the very least we can say we avenged Mynock.


On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote:
yeah almost 10PM there.

i meant to say 11.


On March 24 2008 07:01 Showtime! wrote:
Someone's sarcasm detector isn't working.


On March 24 2008 08:14 Showtime! wrote:
no shit, he pretty much gave it away.

This is what the PM is for people.

Wake up.


On March 24 2008 08:26 Showtime! wrote:
Answers should be PMed.


On March 24 2008 08:59 Showtime! wrote:
vigis should be checking in.


On March 24 2008 12:29 Showtime! wrote:
Too bad you cannot just buy one.

I'm the town drunkard.

He's the town idiot.

Isn't it a wonderful life?


On March 24 2008 12:38 Showtime! wrote:
Why would I vote for a mafia mayor? I suspected him of being Mafia a long time ago.

I guess Ace and I will have to have a drinking contest then to settle this once and for all.


On March 25 2008 03:09 Showtime! wrote:
No, you need a color change.


On March 25 2008 05:26 Showtime! wrote:
That was too funny. Haha Shallowbay. ;p


On March 25 2008 05:40 Showtime! wrote:
Too bad Mora isn't playing

<3 Mora


On March 25 2008 05:46 Showtime! wrote:
Which one is it baby? Spitz or Swallows?

Yeah, but we at least have 6 more to identify.


On March 25 2008 06:06 Showtime! wrote:
Awww

I wanted to call it 'No mafia in my house plan' or MILF - 'Mafia is losing, fuckers'


On March 25 2008 06:15 Showtime! wrote:
PMing.

This might have been a non-useless post once, as it was one of his (many) edited posts.

On March 25 2008 11:21 Showtime! wrote:
Here Mafia, mafia!! YOUUUUUUUUU WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Catch me if you can!!


On March 25 2008 12:05 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah, he's pretty stubborn. Just like me!! 8D He wants every convict to be 100% confirmed before we do anything.


On March 25 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote:
BUT I WANT TO GET DIRTY TONIGHT. OH WAIT, THEY'RE ONTO ME!!

Ninja mode on.


On March 25 2008 12:46 Showtime! wrote:
Shallow because you and I are both being taken out tonight fellatio style.

Damn gay robots.


On March 25 2008 12:48 Showtime! wrote:
Dude, those are men.

Watch out for the Mai Thai's.

I admit, I found (and still find) this comment amusing.

On March 25 2008 12:58 Showtime! wrote:
Because he is a ninja from the land of sexsexpussyhair where are the gay robots can roam free and enjoy free Mai Thai prostitutes.



On March 25 2008 13:02 Showtime! wrote:
oh snap! KILL KILL KILL THE WHITE MAN. Oh wait he is Phill-o-pinooooooooo.

Just kill him already.

This may be a joke, or it may be racism. I really hope that it is a joke, so I'm categorizing it as frivolous.

On March 25 2008 14:22 Showtime! wrote:
No but I heard pounding beers back doesn't hurt. You might want to try it sometime. Oh, wait you're in the States and you only have Miller Lite and Budweiser which tastes like piss water.

Get a bottle of Jacks and swallow her down.


On March 25 2008 22:55 Showtime! wrote:
Oh no he didn't!
















He did, he did. :o

I really don't know why this whitespace was necessary.

On March 25 2008 23:10 Showtime! wrote:
WURM MUST DIE! DIE, DIE, DIE!!

The fact he never confirmed his identity with Ace and blindly saved someone on the first day doesn't ADD UP!

DIE, DIE, DIE!!

He's a terrorist!

He must gooooooooooooooooooo!


On March 25 2008 23:57 Showtime! wrote:
No, you're a towel.


On March 26 2008 11:31 Showtime! wrote:
Oh for fucks sake stop spamming useless banter Pink!!

YOU AREN'T HELPING THE CAUSE!!

I vote PINKY and the BRAIN to die!!


I too, would like to see the end of spamming useless banter.

On March 26 2008 12:02 Showtime! wrote:
I think he's drunk too.

Hey, hey, hey Pink,

I think we figured out who the Narc is this game.


On March 26 2008 15:56 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah what he said.

KILLLLLLLLL HEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR.


KILL HER. HANG HER NOW PLEASE.


HANNNNG HHHHHHEEERRR


On March 26 2008 16:09 Showtime! wrote:
If that is the last defence of the mafia then they just failed.









On March 27 2008 09:48 Showtime! wrote:
He was obviously drunk.


On March 27 2008 12:41 Showtime! wrote:
Oh snap!! Look who's still alive and nice try >;D


On March 27 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote:
Yeah, I think they're just firing at will hoping to get lucky.

To answer your question random I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one so we can discuss it there -_-

Ace I think we should do the three group thing man. I want to pin point those bastards in 1 day rather than 3.





While this list is incomplete, not showing all of his posts, the basis can be clearly seen. Also to note, is that very many of his posts are edited. From what I recall, his material was typically more offensive before it was edited, perhaps an admin can confirm or deny this. Showtime! spends most of his time seeking attention from others, via insinuations, useless commentary, and outright flaming. Why do we suffer his presence? Supposedly, he has an important role, that has been confirmed by Ace. This is what he wants us to believe.

His more recent posts have been insinuations of importance, raw arrogance, and insinuations of narcissism, elevating himself above the status of others. Yesterday, Showtime! has repeatedly made reference to a conference with Ace, publicly posted, leaving us to conclude that he is somehow better than us. Strangely, Ace never publicly places such importance on Showtime!'s opinion.

However, what finally brought this rant to the surface is his incessant begging for a ban of aarav. Showtime! claims that arrav hacked into a private chat. There are two problems with this. One, hacking a private chatroom is not related to TeamLiquid in any way, so I don't think it warrants a ban. I do not know TL moderator policy in this matter, but I have my doubts as to whether it is a banworthy offense. Second, you cannot hack something that you don't know about. Someone had to leak details of a private chat, but you repeatedly ignore this fact, instead trumpeting your protestations of victimization, and that we should restart the game.

Showtime!'s posts:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 28 2008 11:44 Showtime! wrote:
I have a big fucking complaint which might get this game closed.

Our 'programmer' from Armenia decided to take it upon himself to infiltrate a chatroom where many of our key players were located. :. he knows many of our key players and this is just down right wrong. We might have to re-start the bloody game now. This is obviously against the rules. I'm down right pissed. Ban araav please you unethical bastard.

Showtime! is seriously overreacting. Again. One of his attention-whore techniques is making a mountain out of a molehill, and in my opinion this qualifies. Restarting the game because of someone showing up in a chatroom is way out of proportion, and everyone here knows it. Second, where does it state anything wrong with this in the rules? I wish Showtime! good luck finding it, because it sure as hell isn't there. Finally, you have no right to request a ban. The moderators have better things to do with their time than follow your every whim.

On March 28 2008 11:56 Showtime! wrote:
No, it is an unfair advantage to use something like that and it is fucking unethical. It is one thing to pose as a blue it is a totally different thing to enter a chatroom where the mod is afk as well as others.

It was a boneheaded move and play. The fucking guy is 30-years-old and should know better.

How mature.

I know... lol, look ghar we know you are mafia, we know he is and fuck to hell with it I think it is safe to assume I now have 10 of you.

I'm not sure what's unfair about it. Someone had to have told him about the chatroom, because you can't hack something if you don't know if it exists. I know that Showtime! will ignore this fact because it is contrary to his premade opinions, but it is a fact nonetheless. And when Showtime! mentions unethical, I can't help but think that his racism and homophobia are also unethical.

On March 28 2008 12:00 Showtime! wrote:
the guy deserves to be banned period

no discussion

you can say whatever you want in a public forum. anything goes i personally don't care but when you take it upon yourself to hack a private chatroom that is unacceptable.

Again, he's just trying to make a spectacle. He brings nothing new to the discussion, but instead makes sure he can't be ignored.

On March 28 2008 12:12 Showtime! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2008 12:04 wurm wrote:
hahaha.. now you guys really know there is a fake medic in your ranks. hahahaha...

no, no, just remember. i'm the 7th medic. 7 medics reported. im assuming the "fake" medic was given access to the chatroom. "fake" medic tells fellow mafioso, boom, infiltrated. I don't see how this can be cause for stopping the game.


wurm sorry but i just spoke with ace and he never gave you the channel nor did he give every medic the channel either so the guy broke in.

in fact none of the medics know of it, so i don't buy that for one second.

Here, he does bring new information, but he offers no way of proving it. Basically,he just makes sure that we can't forget him, and that he's important.

On March 28 2008 12:23 Showtime! wrote:
there is no leak. the medics simply don't know the chan. only 100% verified people and key players or strategic minds.

his response will probably go something like this: "i have no life."

Here, he's just being childish. His first sentence is a slightly more advanced form of 'nuh-uh', and his later ones just insist that he's right.

On March 28 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote:
considering none of us gave it to him and the guy took it upon himself to break in he has officially ruined the game. Oh well, we'll suck it up and find a way to win I guess, but that is total balls.

Hopefully an Admin will ban him period, but I would like an explanation beforehand as well.

It's official now? I thought it was only official when Chuiu or Dapperdan said so, and Chuiu had just said explicitly that he didn't care. Also, he's trying to elevate his own importance by implying that the admins follow his every whim, and that he deserves an explanation if he asks for one.




Showtime!, I am sick of your attention-whore ways. You may be important to the town, but you are vastly overblowing your own importance, and flying it in the face of others. TeamLiquid is better than this, and we do not deserve to suffer you here. I recognize that I have no say in moderator policy, but if Showtime! is banned, I will be the first to cheer.

+ Show Spoiler [My opinion of Showtime!] +

[image loading]



Thank you, that is all for now.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 28 2008 23:05 GMT
#3404
god damn
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 28 2008 23:17 GMT
#3405
thanks for the little write-up. Perhaps you should be spending more of your time playing the game?
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-28 23:23:20
March 28 2008 23:19 GMT
#3406
You got to admit, though. His earlier postings were pretty lol, especially when he was drunk.

About the post:
On March 25 2008 05:34 Showtime! wrote:
I lol'ed.

Apparently the mafia has no other choice but to attack in twos. Super gay. With all this double-teaming going around they should call this game The Gay Mafia

Mr. Pink: 'Hey there precious! How'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie?'

Proceed to Shallow getting boned, etc.


Necrophilia loving.

He was responding to my version of a day preview where the mafia used 9 hits to nail Shallow. Let the man add his humor. However, I am in no way supporting what else he's been posting. Private chatroom? Password? Hacking? Wtf is this shit. See, this is why I don't EVER privately communicate with other people in online games, especially when it's mafia. So far, the only PMs I've received thus far is one from Chuiu, stating my role at the start, and another from Shallow when he LOL'ed at my remark at Showtime! when I told him to bathe himself in alcohol and I would throw him a lit match as a present. I don't send any messages and I never will.

edit: By messages, I meant PMs. Guess I missed something: I did send a PM, one in the form of and that was sent to Shallow. That is all.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-28 23:26:11
March 28 2008 23:24 GMT
#3407
i didn't read all of it but from what i read it was hilarious

and aye valiance everyone knows i'm not mafia anymore so there is no point for me trying to misdirect, create confusion and post random shit

i liked it more when i had those opportunities

bah

i miss doing all the gey shit
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-28 23:28:10
March 28 2008 23:27 GMT
#3408
On March 29 2008 08:24 Showtime! wrote:
i didn't read all of it but from what i read it was hilarious

and aye valiance everyone knows i'm not mafia anymore so there is no point for me trying to misdirection and post random shit

i liked it more when i had those opportunities

bah

It would be really nice if you could keep the post count to a minimum or, at the very least, keep it related with finding scum/analyzing clues.

Please, no more of this emo crap. It's like your posts are literally cutting my wrists from just reading them.

edit:
Note: I asked politely and said "Please". It would be mature of you if you replied in the same manner.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 28 2008 23:33 GMT
#3409
hey man, i've been hanging relatively low for the last while now.

the only thing I bothered pursuing was this araav bs, but we're done with that


Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 28 2008 23:37 GMT
#3410
I've been gone for a while guys, I had classes today. Posts coming up shortly.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
March 28 2008 23:40 GMT
#3411
On March 29 2008 08:33 Showtime! wrote:
hey man, i've been hanging relatively low for the last while now.

the only thing I bothered pursuing was this araav bs, but we're done with that



no you fucking haven't, are you stupid?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-28 23:45:46
March 28 2008 23:44 GMT
#3412
oh noes someone's water just broke!

is it a boy or a girl?

why don't you ask CD considering he has so much time to go through every single page of my posts and maybe he'll fill you in on how many posts per page I have

They have been declining because of PMs and other shizzie to my nizzie

holla holla

ok back to work

we need more shallow and pink in here

i'll leave it to them to go where i left off
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-28 23:55:43
March 28 2008 23:54 GMT
#3413
Seriously, can we ban a player fromt he game chuiu, if the masses agree?
[image loading]

Poll: Ban Showtime! ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

edit: i bet the next post after is will be that of the attention whore.
Teamliquidian townie
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 28 2008 23:59 GMT
#3414
Ok first point of business.

Even though there is a Double Lynch in effect, still only vote according to the strategy unless otherwise stated.

Firstly, suspect #1 = wurm

The only people that should be voting for wurm no matter what are these players:

Showtime!
ShaLLoW[baY]
qrs
clazziquai
ahrara_
Falcynn
ZBiR
unsoundlogic
BWdero
GeneralStan
Scorch
nemY
MidnightGladius
decafchicken
L
Empyrean
Eti307
suresh0t
randombum
Lysithea
New104
Kau
Artanis[Xp]
Ninja4ever
Naib
Hittegods
SoleSteeler

NO ONE ELSE VOTE FOR WURM!

Likewise, suspect #2 = Ghar

The only people voting for Ghar no matter what should be these people:

Romance_us
Plexa
Caller
Fishball
RtS)Night[Mare
Jimtudor
GranDim
Lenwe
Alethios
NatsuTerran
0cz3c
Last Romantic
zeks
Pangolin
SpiritoftheTuna
Unforgiven_ve
Energies
BloodyC0bbler
iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter
Camlito
bumatlarge
fanatacist
ieatkids5
~OpZ~
SonuvBob
Siefu
butidigress

NO ONE ELSE VOTE FOR Ghar!

Now that you guys know that, this is the rest of the plan. These players should vote like this:

randombum - 2
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce


Ace -4
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
Evilmonkey

Thats it. However, we know only 1 of those 6 are Mafia. Any innocent townie that wants to prove their innocence can vote on either myself or randombum BUT watch the vote count to make sure you don't accidentally lynch one of us.

If you don't even want to risk it vote on ANYONE else except those 4 names, or just abstain. Please do this asap because we dont have much time.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 29 2008 00:00 GMT
#3415
Sweet, I'm set for the day.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-29 00:08:00
March 29 2008 00:06 GMT
#3416
nope wrong and thanks for the love again

I'm easily amused by all this

you guys are complaining i'm an attention whore yet you keep on giving me more attention?

<3 the irony

and thanks for all the extra attention!

as incontrol would say just let it goooo
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 29 2008 00:07 GMT
#3417
Also the only reason I'm putting ghar instead of bumatlarge as suspect #2 is because at first glance, not enough people caught the change.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-29 00:17:09
March 29 2008 00:15 GMT
#3418
Less than 4 hours left. Pay particular attention to Ace's post if you are supposed to vote for suspect #2. It has changed again.

Edit: There's what...a little under 3 hours left? Voting usually ends at 12:00 forum time?
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2008 00:31 GMT
#3419
I don't think voting for Ghar is a good idea. And why should I not vote [abstain] anyway?!
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-29 00:46:28
March 29 2008 00:45 GMT
#3420
This is what the voting situation looks like right now:

Current Vote Count:

Suspect #1 = Wurm
MidnightGladius
ShaLLoW[baY]
ahrara_
randombum
clazziquai
Falcynn
suresh0t
Showtime!
Kau
Scorch
Ace(x6)
Artanis[Xp]
GeneralStan
Lysithea
SoleSteeler
Naib
zeks
TranceStorm
Amber[LighT]
bumatlarge
Puosu
Kau
fusionsdf
crazie-penguin
Alethios
ZBiR
Siefu
Ninja4ever
BWdero
Empyrean
Hittegods
unsoundlogic

suspect #2 = Ghar

QRS
Pangolin
RtS)Night[Mare
Camlito
SonuvBob
Last Romantic
Alethios
Lenwe
Caller
Naib
iNfuNdiBuLuM
zeks
GeneralStan
wurm
bumatlarge
HotZhot
fusionsdf
crazie-penguin
Scorch
ieatkids5
Showtime!
fanatacist
Eti307
Romance_us
JoxxOr
butidigress


randombum

aZnvaLiaNce
SonuvBob


Ace
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf


Showtime!
CDRdude
wurm
Kau
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Lenwe
qrs
ahrara_


bumatlarge
MTF
0cz3c
SpiritoftheTuna
GranDim
Pangolin
Plexa
~OpZ~
BloodyC0bbler
fanatacist
Jimtudor
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr


LostYourSkills
MTF


Zeks
aZnvaLiaNce

Ninja4ever
NatsuTerran
Chezinu


fusionsdf
MoRe_mInErAls
HeRoS)Pink


Alethios
MoRe_mInErAls
HeRoS)Pink

useless
BloodyC0bbler

STR
BlindAlbino

Energies
BlindAlbino

Queasy
ShaLLoW[baY]
Plexa
~OpZ~
Siefu

BlindAlbino
ZBiR


KH1031
smurfingchobo

Klive5ive
smurfingchobo

smurfingchobo
Klive5ive

Abstain
GrayArea
L
Dr.Dragoon
Ghar
wurm
Ziel
xDark.Carnivalx
Klive5ive
Meta
KH1031
0cz3c
Falcynn
Amber[LighT]
HotZhot
Puosu
Hollander
Ninja4ever
LTT
BWdero
KF91
Jimtudor
Romance_us
Hittegods
Artanis[Xp]
Bockit
unsoundlogic
caller
showtime
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