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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 28 2008 17:22 GMT
#3381
You don't actually need to use a rolecheck to confirm someone. Just get them to lynch vote someone who no-one else is voting for. Then check the "list", which will of course be only them.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 28 2008 17:31 GMT
#3382
i'm quite sure they are aware of that possibility. but still, with only 3 detective actions per day, not everybody can be checked.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
March 28 2008 17:31 GMT
#3383
On March 29 2008 01:43 Ace wrote:
Well this much is certain, Ghar is about to be dropped off the suspect list. Whether he is Mafia or not right now isn't a concern.

Bumatlarge is suspect #2, and wurm is suspect #1.



Just to clarify, you want us to vote for suspect #1 OR #2 according to your list (NOT both) and then do whatever we want with our second vote, right?
Complete the cycle!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 28 2008 17:37 GMT
#3384
exactly, but also dont vote for myself or randombum unless unless you're obviously innocent and knowing that wont effect the ratios.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
March 28 2008 17:44 GMT
#3385
What was your original intention with the double lynch if the second vote is to vote whatever? More detective data collection? I think it just made things a bit more confusing.
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
March 28 2008 17:54 GMT
#3386
On March 29 2008 02:44 Ghar wrote:
What was your original intention with the double lynch if the second vote is to vote whatever? More detective data collection? I think it just made things a bit more confusing.


He divided the active people into 2 colums so suspect #1 and #2 still gets lynched, AND he can narrow down on the Mafia with the detectives, too. It's really not that complex, duh.

Complete the cycle!
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
March 28 2008 17:58 GMT
#3387
Ace, you might want to re-post the plan again man.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
March 28 2008 18:03 GMT
#3388
On March 29 2008 02:37 Ace wrote:
exactly, but also dont vote for myself or randombum unless unless you're obviously innocent and knowing that wont effect the ratios.


Actually, even then that might not be a good thing. Say the split would've yielded a 1/4 mafia, but instead, with second votes, you have another 10 people who also voted, and 1 of them is mafia, then you end up with 2/14 and you get a worse ratio no?
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Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
March 28 2008 18:03 GMT
#3389
Yes, but it seems that Chuiu combined the double lynch list together. Thus in effect, nullifying Ace's vote split between suspect 1 and 2 if we are to have them both killed by the end of today. Because people who cast their second vote on the other suspect will have a vote in both suspects.

If he only means to have one person of suspect 1 and 2 killed, then who's the second lynch for?

I might be confused, if I am, my apologies.
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
March 28 2008 18:03 GMT
#3390
On March 28 2008 16:22 araav wrote:
Now, i am going to prove I am a green. The plan is this:
Ace tells us which of the two small groups (Ace|randombum) will be checked by a detective and I and only I join THAT group with one of my votes
i will also vote for Ghar with my other vote.


as many are sure i am a townie, i would like this be performed against randombum and Ace - both and only you both vote on the same list - the one that will be checked!
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 28 2008 18:12 GMT
#3391
On March 29 2008 03:03 araav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2008 16:22 araav wrote:
Now, i am going to prove I am a green. The plan is this:
Ace tells us which of the two small groups (Ace|randombum) will be checked by a detective and I and only I join THAT group with one of my votes
i will also vote for Ghar with my other vote.


as many are sure i am a townie, i would like this be performed against randombum and Ace - both and only you both vote on the same list - the one that will be checked!


Ace clearly isn't Mafia.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 28 2008 18:39 GMT
#3392
Yes, no need to check Ace.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
March 28 2008 18:49 GMT
#3393
On March 29 2008 03:03 Ghar wrote:
Yes, but it seems that Chuiu combined the double lynch list together. Thus in effect, nullifying Ace's vote split between suspect 1 and 2 if we are to have them both killed by the end of today. Because people who cast their second vote on the other suspect will have a vote in both suspects.

If he only means to have one person of suspect 1 and 2 killed, then who's the second lynch for?

I might be confused, if I am, my apologies.


You're suppose to use your second vote on anyone but the original 4 (suspect 1, suspect 2, ace, randombum). I think the goal is to kill both suspects, so the second votes must be spread thinly enough so that this happens.
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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2008 18:54 GMT
#3394
Hey...More attention on Queasy plz
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
March 28 2008 19:00 GMT
#3395
On March 29 2008 03:49 Kau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2008 03:03 Ghar wrote:
Yes, but it seems that Chuiu combined the double lynch list together. Thus in effect, nullifying Ace's vote split between suspect 1 and 2 if we are to have them both killed by the end of today. Because people who cast their second vote on the other suspect will have a vote in both suspects.

If he only means to have one person of suspect 1 and 2 killed, then who's the second lynch for?

I might be confused, if I am, my apologies.


You're suppose to use your second vote on anyone but the original 4 (suspect 1, suspect 2, ace, randombum). I think the goal is to kill both suspects, so the second votes must be spread thinly enough so that this happens.


It makes more sense now that you put it as spreading the second vote out so that suspect #2 will take precedence over the second lynch, but then instructing people to abstain the second vote would be clearer, and less error prone.

I kept thinking of it as 2 separate lynchings, once one lynching is done, the slate is wiped clean for lynching 2, but if Chuiu is combining the vote count, then your solution would be the most consistent with his actions.

Thanks, that clears up alot.
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
March 28 2008 19:20 GMT
#3396
Having a plan isn't boring. When there are over a hundred people playing, that is the only chance of success townies can have. Although I believe most people posting are innocent, it's a pretty high probability there are some mafia that have been flaming the arguments in the hopes that frustrated townies will not cooperate. They know they are fighting a losing battle if the town continues to show such unity as exemplified in the first day. Let's build on that.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17011 Posts
March 28 2008 19:53 GMT
#3397
On March 29 2008 03:03 araav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2008 16:22 araav wrote:
Now, i am going to prove I am a green. The plan is this:
Ace tells us which of the two small groups (Ace|randombum) will be checked by a detective and I and only I join THAT group with one of my votes
i will also vote for Ghar with my other vote.


as many are sure i am a townie, i would like this be performed against randombum and Ace - both and only you both vote on the same list - the one that will be checked!


I agree.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
March 28 2008 20:34 GMT
#3398
On March 29 2008 04:53 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2008 03:03 araav wrote:
On March 28 2008 16:22 araav wrote:
Now, i am going to prove I am a green. The plan is this:
Ace tells us which of the two small groups (Ace|randombum) will be checked by a detective and I and only I join THAT group with one of my votes
i will also vote for Ghar with my other vote.


as many are sure i am a townie, i would like this be performed against randombum and Ace - both and only you both vote on the same list - the one that will be checked!


I agree.


So the detective won't speak up if they're both innocent? How is this any different?
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
March 28 2008 20:38 GMT
#3399
That would be an absolute waste. If Ace is indeed mafia a DT would have spoken up ages ago and since none of them did, we can safely assume he is in fact a townie.

On the 0,00001% chance that noone of the DT's checked him: Then we are screwed anyway, since the mafia have a list of pretty much every blue in the game and it is game over.

So why would we waste a valuable DT question on something that we already know. Why are people still so worried about this Ace being mafia thing, while the chance of him being so is nearly 0% (once again, if he is our DT's screwed up and this is pretty much gg). Why not use that question to gain more information and proceed with Ace's plan, which so far has made perfect sense and has led us to our first mafia kill.

Start worrying about other people's behaviour and start linking clue's to them. Post those results here in public or pm them to Ace telling him to post it in public if you are afraid for your own life.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 28 2008 20:42 GMT
#3400
Who am I suppose to vote for again? Sorry I haven't been following the game much at all this round
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