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On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote: I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that.
\o/ dude that almost made me smile i'm so damn tired -_-
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On June 08 2024 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote: I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that. He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad
oats dude, my impression of sandy is he comes in and parrots the thread and parks on scott who at the time had the most thread sentiment against him
i know this comes from focusing overmuch on him parroting what i said on truffle early game when he was stiff as a board, but then he drops truffle. one interpretation is he sees the exact same thing everyone else does later in the game while he's catching up i'll admit
it's easy to have 'correct' reads when mirroring thread sentiment after the fact. i don't see anything good or original from him except maybe the kelsier being grumpy makes him town?
and it's just stupid weird that he literally says scum!rso has hard pushed me but i think they're just terrible this time and rayn's scum but rayn's metaread on them is giving me more pause over my own experiences with her when she was mafia
how does that make sense?
yes i'm focused on me but whatever lol >< i'm not pretending to be objective
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fuck me i hate making cases when it's a broad strokes thing but sure i'll at least scrounge up the quotes i mean
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nvm i'm too tired to do this with any sort of thoroughness like pointing out where each of his reads aligned with others' first in a giant list of quotes, i think it goes without saying that commenting on the game after nearly everyone else posted if he shares reads it's not original
i'll focus on the bigger things for me
On June 08 2024 00:01 sandroba wrote: The thing about scott is that the initial question already seems fake, but the follow-up about being satisfied with rayn's answer to the question doesn't seem like something that could be genuine, it looks like something to say when you are hoping to put a close to a line of questioning.
^what i assume made people like him
rayn already focused this down
On June 07 2024 13:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 11:18 scott31337 wrote: Masons are town flavored because they usually confirm people. These are more like neighbor roles that the OP discusses. You said you wanted an opinion, and said i gave the answer youre looking for. But this is definitely NOT what i said.
On June 07 2024 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you also said "rayn gave the answer i was looking for" when Vivax confronted you. Whats that about then, if your opinion is basically the opposite?
but then scott explains
On June 07 2024 13:08 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you also said "rayn gave the answer i was looking for" when Vivax confronted you. Whats that about then, if your opinion is basically the opposite? Because these aren't "Masons" I think that's a disingenuous term for the random "neighbor" meetup. I think neighbor is a better term. Just because I haven't played with a Mason game, doesn't mean I don't understand what they are. It doesn't confirm anyone in this game. "It's just fun to talk privately with someone." I trust your wisdom that this is really all the extra perk is about.
and rayn accepts that (and i also find it reasonable)
On June 07 2024 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay maybe all this hassle is pointless.
so rayn, viva, and az all pinging on scott, i tr viva and az for pinging on him the way they did, truffle says scott looks scummy (but always does) = the read's very in line with thread sentiment i don't know why anyone's getting a hard-on for everyone else's read/feels in different words. maybe he's a better communicator whatevs
then there's truffle:
On June 07 2024 23:03 sandroba wrote: Trfel so far seems overly friendly and lighthearted in his tone, and employing an overuse of smiley faces which should definitely be criminalized in this town. It's different from the past 2 games we played where he was town.
^ this is me and rayn, rayn literally saying he's having fun and me poking at the emoticon usage, maybe there was someone else too idk but at least us
now as i've said this next bit could just be him reading the same thread getting the same reads but truffle's dropped like 3 posts later
On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town.
with this explanation
On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town. So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?! Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town.
and obv a lot of people were saying they were feeling better about truffle
now none of this makes sandy scum before people get all grumpy and ride my ass. but there are no shiny interesting takes it's rehashing, and in that context i don't like it
otherwise there's the kelsier townread (which i think might have been original on a relook), the smurf thing (nai), agreeing with az on mocsta looking weird (obv not original)
but then there's this exchange:
On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town. So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?! Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town. you stole my story who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott? i'm bored of the scott conversation
On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town. So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?! Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town. you stole my story who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott? i'm bored of the scott conversation I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean
On June 08 2024 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 03:24 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town. So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?! Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town. you stole my story who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott? i'm bored of the scott conversation I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean what are you talking about regarding me? You said you liked rsoul read on me, then asked her what is the case against me. Explain I "like her read" (lets put it this way -- because i do not necessarily agree with it) on you because in my experience rsoultin hates lying and taking a stance like that (which is not completely unreasonable), points towards her being town. I mean i can go further into this if you want to, but i just dont think she would accuse town!sandroba as mafia!rsoultin (even less if youre both mafia) like that. Basically i don't agree with her, that what you said and did makes you mafia, but i think it makes her town.
On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out?
and this just bothers me
like i can see a world where sandy is tryna keep an open mind i guess and i understand pinging rayn on the how do you agree with her if you don't know her case, as well as accepting rayn's explanation than he can tr me without agreeing with me BUT what i don't get is why i'm not a scumread of his when the bolded is literally what he remembers of me
why trust rayn over personal experience?
which brings me back to how is sandy not bringing anything interesting to the thread and moreover why is everyone tr ing him for that? am i giving his towngame too much credit to expect more than a single tr on kelsier cause the dude's angry from sandy?
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and now i'm gonna go play with my daughter while she's still awake. if i can manage any sort of self-control i'll sleep this evening before coming back for deadline -_-
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On June 09 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 00:55 Vivax wrote: Everytime I filter the flying dutchwoman it's like I'm reading her having a conversation with herself. Monologuing herself out of having to push something in perpetuum. Rsoul? Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. Youre town so thats good
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Yeah i dont remember you tbh mocsta that was idek how many years ago. I just like your filter tonally so it is what it is
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On June 09 2024 01:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 01:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 00:55 Vivax wrote: Everytime I filter the flying dutchwoman it's like I'm reading her having a conversation with herself. Monologuing herself out of having to push something in perpetuum. Rsoul? Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. Youre town so thats good It‘d be of help to me if you could be a bit more decisive on the scott vs kelsier debate
Wtf are you even talking about?
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i literally voted kelsier because i don't think scott's mafia and i think kelsier's the next best chance to flip scum after sandy idk what debate you think i'm not weighing in on? did i miss some case talking about the same people again that significantly changes the landscape of the game or you just haven't read my posts?
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On June 09 2024 01:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 01:50 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:50 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 00:55 Vivax wrote: Everytime I filter the flying dutchwoman it's like I'm reading her having a conversation with herself. Monologuing herself out of having to push something in perpetuum. Rsoul? Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. Youre town so thats good It‘d be of help to me if you could be a bit more decisive on the scott vs kelsier debate Wtf are you even talking about? Could you briefly put into words what you think of the two. And why Kelsier is the better choice when he isn‘t trying to hide his awfulness.
scott looks like scummy town cause i like where his fucking head's at and oddly enough the bullshit about the setup is so not compelling to me at all
it's like you guys want to ignore the entire filters of people to nitpick one or two things to 'make' someone scum or 'make' someone town instead of taking into account overall play, and i guess that's where i differ from everyone else
kelsier got mad. he could've gotten mad as scum or town just as genuinely. look at the rest of the filter and tell me how you can townread that guy
meanwhile scott's at least doing his own thing over there while everyone's shitting kittens. he was seeing the game a lot closer to the way i was
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On June 09 2024 01:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 01:52 rsoultin wrote: i literally voted kelsier because i don't think scott's mafia and i think kelsier's the next best chance to flip scum after sandy idk what debate you think i'm not weighing in on? did i miss some case talking about the same people again that significantly changes the landscape of the game or you just haven't read my posts? That‘s fine as answer. I just don‘t get the sandro bit but we‘ll see how that evolves.
-_- well here's hoping i'm just wrong and chasing my tail i guess cause i don't trust this town to catch scum!sandy otherwise
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On June 09 2024 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote: How is Sandro not scum reading you rsoul? He’s definitely not townreaidng you based on the quotes you pulled. He also doesn’t trust Rayns read on you based on the quote you pulled that says “who else has rayns experience with rsoul”
because i literally asked him who he wanted to lynch and i wasn't in his pile?
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On June 09 2024 02:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 02:02 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:54 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:50 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:50 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 00:55 Vivax wrote: Everytime I filter the flying dutchwoman it's like I'm reading her having a conversation with herself. Monologuing herself out of having to push something in perpetuum. Rsoul? Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. Youre town so thats good It‘d be of help to me if you could be a bit more decisive on the scott vs kelsier debate Wtf are you even talking about? Could you briefly put into words what you think of the two. And why Kelsier is the better choice when he isn‘t trying to hide his awfulness. scott looks like scummy town cause i like where his fucking head's at and oddly enough the bullshit about the setup is so not compelling to me at all it's like you guys want to ignore the entire filters of people to nitpick one or two things to 'make' someone scum or 'make' someone town instead of taking into account overall play, and i guess that's where i differ from everyone elsekelsier got mad. he could've gotten mad as scum or town just as genuinely. look at the rest of the filter and tell me how you can townread that guy meanwhile scott's at least doing his own thing over there while everyone's shitting kittens. he was seeing the game a lot closer to the way i was Thank goodness you’re here to tell us how to play mafia
Eh fuck off
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On June 09 2024 02:18 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 02:07 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote: How is Sandro not scum reading you rsoul? He’s definitely not townreaidng you based on the quotes you pulled. He also doesn’t trust Rayns read on you based on the quote you pulled that says “who else has rayns experience with rsoul” because i literally asked him who he wanted to lynch and i wasn't in his pile? Not really sure how that makes you a town read? Your point is invalid if he thinks you are null disagree
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On June 09 2024 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 02:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 02:07 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote: How is Sandro not scum reading you rsoul? He’s definitely not townreaidng you based on the quotes you pulled. He also doesn’t trust Rayns read on you based on the quote you pulled that says “who else has rayns experience with rsoul” because i literally asked him who he wanted to lynch and i wasn't in his pile? Not really sure how that makes you a town read? Your point is invalid if he thinks you are null disagree Explain your point again with Sandro having you as null
he should be scumreading me if he's town paranoid scumrso is doing him again, null is weaksauce. others in that list had to be nulls. now go poke elsewhere im going to sleep
if you can't understand or disagree with me this wont get you anywhere and it def wont get me anywhere
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On June 09 2024 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 02:31 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 02:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 02:07 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote: How is Sandro not scum reading you rsoul? He’s definitely not townreaidng you based on the quotes you pulled. He also doesn’t trust Rayns read on you based on the quote you pulled that says “who else has rayns experience with rsoul” because i literally asked him who he wanted to lynch and i wasn't in his pile? Not really sure how that makes you a town read? Your point is invalid if he thinks you are null disagree Explain your point again with Sandro having you as null he should be scumreading me if he's town paranoid scumrso is doing him again, null is weaksauce. others in that list had to be nulls. now go poke elsewhere im going to sleep if you can't understand or disagree with me this wont get you anywhere and it def wont get me anywhere Why should he be scumreading you? Nobody good goes into games defaulting
okay
i'm saying from a town!sandro perspective all he remembers of me is when i tunneled him as scum and he ended up losing because he as he put it 'waffled and lost the game'. this is ground zero right before any other input. from his perspective this looks the same to him (or if it doesn't idk why he posted that). and yet when i ask him who he wants to lynch he of course says scott fine that's his scumread, then dbz when she'd only posted the one post that's gotta be a null read, and rayn for liking my 'terrible reasoning' without knowing what it is, moving him from a town lean which implies null but could mean scum. fair cops on all of those from a sandy town perspective, except i should 100% be in that group if he thinks this looks exactly like my scum game where i caused him to lose
that's not 'defaulting' into anything. that's a line of reasoning that makes no sense to me. if he doesn't want to lynch me as town!sandy seeing what he thinks is the same thing as my scum game, i'd expect a reason why and i don't see any other than oh rayn who he at least wasn't sure of a couple posts ago says the meta's different
like maybe i'm wrong on this but in my world sandy should be either convinced i'm scum or at least very paranoid about it
he has no thread presence
none
he was interacting with past game, up until the point people questioned him on his reads
and somehow lands on me as null for what he describes as a 'contrived' read on him because i seemed townie before? like literally all i did before was poke a little and that's the part of my filter marv decided i was doing nothing in that rayn and later truffle jumped on him for. who are sandy's other scumreads that make me just null for him at that point? i don't buy it
i mean tbf he did parrot my early reads which were like...everyone's lol ><
i could be wrong but i don't think so
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dbz is dmb and my brain is so fucking dead guys -_- sorry
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read his filter it's two pages long i can't keep doing this with you my god
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On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile
on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie
^literally last post in his filter
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i don't know he's not paranoid, he's not acting paranoid
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