Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 4

On June 08 2024 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
okay obviously i need to explain

isn't the crux of the push on scott

1) he opened with setup discussion = mafia = policy lynch
2) he asked how masons are towny then explained how masons are towny = objectively inconsistent

On June 08 2024 09:22 marvellosity wrote:

When was I??

On June 08 2024 10:21 rsoultin wrote:


lol same regarding rayn

well az reminds me of another player whose scum game consists of buddying top townies (and by this i mean the 'good players' the community here generally listens to) and crawling so far up their asses he goes under the radar. idk that this is the same player but the interchange with marv is giving me those vibes. tbc marv is good, but i guess i mean the people who have the most pull if people are reading them town

now i don't know that az's the same person or not so that's not reason enough to scumread him at all. but his view of the game also isn't aligning with mine on several fronts so those two things together earns him the rayn tier of i don't fucking know. i'm hoping if he's town that'll become clear in further discussion lol ><

On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:
My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way.

I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though?

I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him.

It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.

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What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets.

On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:
awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in
woe is me

i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise

scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for..
i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS)

the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged.

will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba

people i am not open to lynching today are:
oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv..

i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that.

On June 08 2024 17:35 marvellosity wrote:

Sorry if I missed it previously, but what is your case beyond the ick?

On June 08 2024 15:37 Trfel wrote:
But that doesn't make sense

On June 08 2024 15:52 Trfel wrote:
I guess I just can't get over this Oatsmaster thing. Everyone says he's town, I've looked as hard as I can and I've explained my thoughts and no one says anything? I get that I'm probably just being bad but it's hard for me to be less bad if people don't help me understand their perspective?

Like I put in the effort to explain where I am coming from, I'd really appreciate a bit of help on this one. How should I be approaching this, if my current approach isn't good?

On June 08 2024 17:03 Trfel wrote:
I'm actually strangely okay with not lynching scott31337? Which kinda shocks me, I never thought I'd see the day. I'm confused about how he puts Oatsmaster in the "do not lynch today" category and just a bit later is throwing shade on Oatsmaster and is disappointed in (I think) raynpelikoneet and sandroba townreading Oatsmaster. Not very significant but it's the main thing that sticks out to me at this point?

Raynpelikoneet post #177 is confusing me, in my tired state I am having a hard time understanding what he is referring to. Also I'm a little confused why he strongly disagreed with me about Kelsi3r and then I pushed back and he said he agreed? I didn't really say anything new, just tried to rephrase it to make it more clear, I guess I'm
just surprised that that actually made a difference tbh. No real reasons to suspect him though.

Raynpelikoneet said he was going to be busy today so he would need to figure things out early but idk if he did that? He seemed mostly uninterested in the scott31337 stuff and back and forth on the Kelsi3r stuff. I don't actually know who he thinks is mafia, which is very much against what I expect from raynpelikoneet (regardless of alignment).

Honestly that might be worth some thinking. Raynpelikoneet with one of the longest, if not the longest, filters in the game, and seemingly no scumreads? I'm confused, but I'm not so confident in raynpelikoneet being town anymore. Actually pretty suspicious.

Mocsta and marvellosity look okay enough for now I think. Unfortunately I am not a Vivax whisperer, would love to understand all these incredible reads he has but I am not seeing what he is getting at. Oh well, what can I do

On June 08 2024 17:43 Mocsta wrote:
Not you.
Have read your filter and like how you picked yourself up from all the mason/neighbour discussion in particular examining multiple players which from your situation I assume.tonbe more town likely than mafia.

I'm slightly concerned kelsi3r could be a bad townie vote > mafia.. just because the way the wagon is building is a bit odd.. limited buy in (even though majority so far) and also no resistance.. it's possible wagons will take off in final two hours so meh??

On June 08 2024 17:48 Mocsta wrote:
well you've been building that since yesterday

We are both here. Let's chat

My head space has been outputted in past couple posts. Where do we go from here?

Btw. I believe people do change however you used to read me pretty good and go against grain to back me. I'm not scum calling you or being butthurt. More confused than anything hopefully chat helps that both ways.

On June 08 2024 17:55 Mocsta wrote:
ohh haha.. well I know there was a game I was mafia and took you to the end so that's fair

Funny how objective reality distorts through each user!

Copy copy

I know what Scott asked me and that I didn't answer directly

If I had mayor vote. I would drop AZ

If I could lead a wagon I would consider kelsier/dmb

If I wanted to take a gamble I would drop Rayn.

I have to read sandroba / slam although I haven't been concerned by them to date

I have not seen anything else I want to sheep at this point although recognize my current cred means I need to 🐑

On June 08 2024 18:11 Mocsta wrote:
for real.. my vote is in kelsier mate
.that's a disappointing response form you.
I extended an olive branch too

On June 08 2024 17:43 Mocsta wrote:
Not you.
Have read your filter and like how you picked yourself up from all the mason/neighbour discussion in particular examining multiple players which from your situation I assume.tonbe more town likely than mafia.

I'm slightly concerned kelsi3r could be a bad townie vote > mafia.. just because the way the wagon is building is a bit odd.. limited buy in (even though majority so far) and also no resistance.. it's possible wagons will take off in final two hours so meh??