EPTis not lynching marv just policy, alpha? nope, can't call you alpha that felt wrong. AZ that's who you are now
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is not lynching marv just policy, alpha? nope, can't call you alpha that felt wrong. AZ that's who you are now | ||
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On June 08 2024 06:47 AlphaZero wrote: Ohhh I figured out a part of why Scott looks bad. I read his posts and I can’t agree with his perspective, and he seems confused about things that look obvious to me. Even when I don’t agree with everything, most players post something I can empathise with. Scott’s thought processes are alien to me. Like he can’t fathom people town reading oats. Doesn’t make sense to me cause last looks clearly town. And good players are picking that up. okay, but...thought experiment, if scott is scum and oats is town, does that make sense as a read? i mean i guess if he was looking for a mislynch it could be frustrating to have people just remove someone from the table for what seems like very little but there are other low-hanging fruit to push or do you think they're both scum and scott knows oats is scum and then the 'good players' thing making a townread on oats is kinda negated isn't it? | ||
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On June 08 2024 01:04 scott31337 wrote: After re-reading the page before, this makes sense to me. Ehhh... This is like a "I don't know what else to write" I was going to give him another 6 or so hours, but yes - if marv rolls mafia he's super quiet. I liked rayn's point - marv agrees with it also. *noted* See I disagree with this. Although we did talk about the "red flags" weren't scum reading per se, I like this observation. My memory isn't the best - but it was more flagging the post then "Scott is mafia with red flags." Wouldn't lynch order raynpelikoneet - townie inquizzitive vibes. Hopefully we can figure out this game like last one and smoke out the mafs. Vivax - feels like his townie game too. marvellosity - feels like usual townie game. Like I mentioned, super quiet as mafia. Mocsta - I see him as town searching around - he seems to have an accurate read on me. Trfel - Feels townie as well. I'll be unvoting him. rsoultin - Even in obs I have a terrible time reading this person. Two people with more experience say elsewhise. Oatsmaster - I could be convinced, but is playing a little different. Could lynch order: Kelsi3r - His back and forths with Mocsta was pretty bad when Mocsta seemed genuine to me. Alakaslam - nothing of value contributed die_meatbaby - not enough info sandroba - Stayed on the Mason bandwagon after reading the thread - read of Kelsi3r and others seem bad AlphaZero - I don't think this is HF. Maybe DP? But seems to be a experienced player shitting up the thread. Hinted at me then went after Mocsta So I'm unvoting Trfel and voting for Kelsi3r. i think i didn't hate his reads was what it was cause we're mostly on similar pages, and he seems to not be too fazed by the early pressure from folks. that said it's not a strong townlean | ||
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On June 08 2024 06:58 AlphaZero wrote: Can you explain what you mean a bit more? It’s interesting but I am not sure I grasp the thought yet. i'm not really sure how to explain it better, tbh. i just don't feel lynching people you don't agree with or don't have the same reads as you is a great way to find scum generally, and i'm struggling to find the mafia motivation for being frustrated, seemingly, that someone you struggle to read others are townreading so easily with little to no explanation when you're trying to figure out their alignment. i know that's assuming town motivation, but what's the scum one i guess is the point? | ||
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On June 08 2024 07:06 AlphaZero wrote: Rso can you explain to me why Kellsier seems to be scum read by everyone. Am I missing something here? mostly just doing nothing while still being present in the thread | ||
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On June 08 2024 07:12 marvellosity wrote: Not just this, I agreed with the Scott take and sand came to the same conclusion as me on Trfel in the end too. fair i suppose, what do you think of him now? | ||
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i don't think i'd lynch him today in any case | ||
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On June 08 2024 07:29 AlphaZero wrote: The scum motivation is that it’s frustrating for townies to clear townies for “bad” reasons. I take your point however I do think there is value in determining if you can empathise (not agree) with someone’s thought processes cause that makes it more likely to be genuine. Remember mafia aren’t really thinking like town, so they are going to have times that their reads are just too ‘wrong’ to be town. i see your point. i don't fully agree on scott in particular in no small part because i can empathize with struggling to read someone as town but you could be right and i'm just wrong so there's that lol >< | ||
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if you can point out one thing he said in his catch up someone else hadn't already said...well then i'm misremembering shit for one. maybe the kelsier thing idk eeeeh i don't wanna look back at it though stop making me work -_- fine fine also fuck you marv -_- reminding me how often rayn tunneled me when we were both town is not helping my paranoia at all is he really all buddy buddy these days? he certainly wasn't last time we played. not that it matters, cause he likes to buddy me when he's mafia asdgaga | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:36 rsoultin wrote: can i just say that if sandy turns out to be scum the townies in this game owe me a big apology if you can point out one thing he said in his catch up someone else hadn't already said...well then i'm misremembering shit for one. maybe the kelsier thing idk eeeeh i don't wanna look back at it though stop making me work -_- fine fine also fuck you marv -_- reminding me how often rayn tunneled me when we were both town is not helping my paranoia at all is he really all buddy buddy these days? he certainly wasn't last time we played. not that it matters, cause he likes to buddy me when he's mafia asdgaga okay it does seem he was first on the kelsier read so i def misremembered that my impression was he was largely following thread sentiment with the excuse of catching up without adding anything. idk if the kelsier read being an outlier is enough to change my opinion | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:45 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, I understand what you're saying about sandroba, but that strikes me more as reasons to not townread him than as reasons to scumread him? What am I missing? yeah i really don't know how to explain it better than i already have? i know feeling lackluster and sheepy when i expect more from him isn't the most compelling argument but he remains the one i feel strongest about. i don't hate a kelsier lynch either i'm prob gonna have to figure out where this viva push is coming from. i agree that it seemed to suddenly gain traction from quarters where people weren't scumreading him earlier which is making me itchy, though maybe that's me misremembering again if we default lynch dmb is fine i think someone asked me about viva...oh oats, that's who it was the dropping the scumread thing from amz and i didn't hate the early scott callout but i also agree there's not been much interesting besides that. i do agree his wild flailing shadowboxing is more what i expect from him | ||
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it's also shitty pre-flip stuff but i won't vote with sandy fuck that shit. also i just like scott so sue me | ||
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i mean i guess it's possible but such an early buss feels strange? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:18 marvellosity wrote: Vivax may or may not be scum. He can be town. Just because he looks a bit worse than early d1 doesn’t make him maf necessarily. Regardless it’s too weak of a pre~flip association to pay any attention to. And you should know better tbh :p i mean sure but you were ready to lynch him two seconds before az called scott so like...what changed? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:20 marvellosity wrote: And objective inconsistency? What are you actually talking about lol az's gotcha moment | ||
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