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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 00:45 GMT
#625
Vivax coming in and complaining about me is clsssic scum!vivax cmon.
The Scott stuff kinda boring, I get it but he’s not mafia
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 00:57 GMT
#632
On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.

Vote:vivax



Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.

For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?

Source on the mafia meta read?


Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game?

I’d go after you no? Why would I go after vivax? Answer the question please
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 00:58 GMT
#634
On June 08 2024 09:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 09:53 scott31337 wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:50 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:46 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:41 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:34 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
okay obviously i need to explain

isn't the crux of the push on scott

1) he opened with setup discussion = mafia = policy lynch
2) he asked how masons are towny then explained how masons are towny = objectively inconsistent


You know there is more to it than that. cause you commented on it. Come on now.


the 'more to it' isn't interesting to me

it was fine for you and viva to jump on that early cause that was all there was and probably the only interesting thing going on apart from truffle sounding like a bloody robot. we've now got ~30 pages of game


Yes that’s fair in isolation. but the second point against him definitely tracks with a mafia agenda.

Now there are two points for the same player that don’t sit right. That’s a pattern building.

But hey, feel free to present an alternative option if you see one.

I will consider it on its merits.


and your second point is what? that he thought it was scummy you went after viva when he couldn't find any mention of him in your filter after yammering about him all day? cause if that's the case, i'm not following


you did mention issues with viva before voting though so hrum, i guess i can see how you'd see that as a scum!scott reaction. though then my question is what was your post about 'knowing' someone (probably scum) would mention that? frankly i'm just confused -_-


I would attempt to explain more than what's already in my thread but I think that horse has died at least twice already.


you don't need to explain it to me scott

i'd also be weirded out if someone had a hard-on for me than hard left-turned seemingly out of the blue, even if he had put viva as null more recently

It’s a super out of context “catch” from Scott that isn’t taking into account thread sentiment and what’s going on
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 01:55 GMT
#658
On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:
My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way.

I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though?

I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him.

It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
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On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.

Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen.

Pls feel free to explain
What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets.

Why are you conflicted about me? You’ve said this a couple times but haven’t expanded with posts or reasoning
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 01:56 GMT
#659
On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:
My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way.

I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though?

I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him.

It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.

Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen.

Pls feel free to explain
What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets.

Make your stance on alphazeros alignment please the waffle is tiresome
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 02:20 GMT
#668
On June 08 2024 11:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 10:55 rsoultin wrote:
tbf this is largely how i make reads on people, discussing the entire game with others in thread rather than just focusing on today's lynch? but point taken. don't want to make the thread completely unreadable
I think it depends on how much time there is until the lynch, imo when it gets closer to the lynch it's helpful to focus a bit. Night 1 I'd be more than happy to talk about anything and everything.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:
My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way.

I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though?

I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him.

It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.

Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen.

Pls feel free to explain
What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets.

Make your stance on alphazeros alignment please the waffle is tiresome
I don't have much to discuss about AlphaZero. I kinda think they are town but it's a weak read. I generally don't like to talk about townreads, especially not weak ones. How have I been waffling on AlphaZero, of all people, since I haven't said anything about them?
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:
My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way.

I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though?

I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him.

It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.

Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen.

Pls feel free to explain
What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets.

Why are you conflicted about me? You’ve said this a couple times but haven’t expanded with posts or reasoning
The issue is that your playstyle, seemingly regardless of alignment, seems scummy to me. This makes it hard to figure out if you are town or mafia, because you always seem scummy. I'm trying to work on it but unfortunately I can't magically get better.

Honestly I don't know. You're going to have to live with that, I am not going to make something up.

You literally keep saying “oh maybe we shouldn’t discuss alphazero because he’s not a lynch target today” which doesn’t make sense if you even think he’s slightly town??
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 02:23 GMT
#671
The issue is that your playstyle, seemingly regardless of alignment, seems scummy to me. This makes it hard to figure out if you are town or mafia, because you always seem scummy. I'm trying to work on it but unfortunately I can't magically get better.

Literally no reasons here why I’m scummy. You can do better than that
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 02:49 GMT
#679
On June 08 2024 11:34 Trfel wrote:
@Oatsmaster, can you read in context? I was talking to people who are suspicious of AlphaZero, hence my posts.

Yes I could say reasons why you could be mafia but how is that productive if I don't know if it makes you mafia? Like why would I do that?

? Why are you stopping discussion of someone you don’t have a solid read on then?
Because we can determine if those reasons are good enough? Are you seriously asking why it’s good to explain a read?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 02:50 GMT
#680
On June 08 2024 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative

Not really sure why you don’t think that’s a strong indicator one of the scum players isn’t confident
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 02:53 GMT
#681
Fuckin bizzaro game where it’s not good to explain reads and it’s not good to talk about players in the game and things reasonably inferred are somehow invalid
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:04 GMT
#685
On June 08 2024 11:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuckin bizzaro game where it’s not good to explain reads and it’s not good to talk about players in the game and things reasonably inferred are somehow invalid


It takes a fortune teller to figure out what the fuck you are ranting about.

Go read Mocsta and put on your columbo costume

I really should I’ve been slacking
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:05 GMT
#686
On June 08 2024 12:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 11:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 11:34 Trfel wrote:
@Oatsmaster, can you read in context? I was talking to people who are suspicious of AlphaZero, hence my posts.

Yes I could say reasons why you could be mafia but how is that productive if I don't know if it makes you mafia? Like why would I do that?

? Why are you stopping discussion of someone you don’t have a solid read on then?
Because we can determine if those reasons are good enough? Are you seriously asking why it’s good to explain a read?

Can you stop misinterpreting my posts? I'm sorry I'm trying to play a board game with some friends and don't have a ton of patience for dealing with this :/

I think it is very common to avoid aimless discussions about people who aren't realistic lynch targets when the deadline is approaching. Like I said, if you have actual reasons or arguments, by all means go ahead. Otherwise, let's focus on the upcoming deadline.

How is d1 discussion aimless?
I’m not really sure how I’m misinterpreting your posts? Just give some reasons why I’m mafia it’s not that hard if you have them
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:06 GMT
#687
On June 08 2024 11:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 11:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative

Not really sure why you don’t think that’s a strong indicator one of the scum players isn’t confident


i literally just said that in different words oats

You say “inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many points of failure” that’s the direct opposite of what I said
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:15 GMT
#689
Just the 1 person that got the Mason power would be the weak scum, or both are weak scum. I’m very confident it’s not two strong scum
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:23 GMT
#692
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:23 GMT
#693
On June 08 2024 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
why are you assuming two scum?

Because reading the op is for chumps also idk if there are 3 then it’s not 3 strong scum, does it really matter day 1
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:30 GMT
#695
On June 08 2024 12:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter


You can literally read his first eight posts and spot something that at the very least would likely make him mafia.

Explain
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:30 GMT
#696
I know if you are town you think I’m town
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:54 GMT
#700
On June 08 2024 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
i feel like it's prob the thing that's already been brought up numerous times but whatevs, someone else can play the viva tell me what my reads are game

i'm assuming oats you're suggesting that if your scumread flips scum the lack of interaction suggests mocsta may be scum with him and possibly scott too? or am i misunderstanding?

More so those were two pretty significant things that have happened in the game that mocsta seems to have missed
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 03:55 GMT
#701
On June 08 2024 12:48 rsoultin wrote:
tbf i am giving viva a bit of a townlean for being like go forth and see what i see to prove thyself! could be townie arrogance that. i don't think it's hard to replicate as scum, but in terms of preferred lynch order that puts him behind others

Super easy to fake.
Would I be correct in assuming your scum game is very good?
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