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On April 01 2024 06:20 Alakaslam wrote: I don't like giving out my credit card info for such things tho Just play from computer whenever you can like i do. If someone tries to lynch you for not playing when you cant play i will bury them deep.  | ||
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Soon will probably start being time when i can't play anymore for a while. | ||
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So one role for each team? | ||
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I think town. | ||
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Pls explain? | ||
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I kind of think Trfel is mafia. | ||
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Vivax Scott 4 ppl 2 mafia. Maybe trfel? Jealous idk... Palmar and Chez defs not know atm. | ||
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On May 10 2024 09:55 Trfel wrote: Honestly I'm not sure how Jealous gets so much detail in with Paint. With other applications I could see it, but Paint?! I'll have to come up with a style that works for me. How do you come up with THIS when your top scumread scott is questioned? | ||
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Hi i think trfel is mafia. Yesno? | ||
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Jealous is my top town town read. Scott second. Not completely sold on Vivax tbh after all... I will let Trfel do what he wants to do. Lets see if i still feel the same way about him tomorrow. I can explain that read better then if needed. Osts feels weird, idk if thats a good thing or not?? I was pretty confident i can 10000% read Oats, always, no matter what, and then last game happened. | ||
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On May 10 2024 17:16 Trfel wrote: Sorry, I am not sure what you are referring to here? I don't believe Grackaroni ever did this? Whats with his picture then of you running backwards (left)? Or did i misunderstand? | ||
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Am i still drunk? Yes | ||
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What do you think of that post Trfel? | ||
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I think Oats is calling you out on backpedalling on your read on scott. | ||
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You called scott's post scummy, then said "heck i only disliked his post". What is scummy if not scummy? | ||
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1) i would expect tou from all people in the game, ve least likely to have a scumread at this piint. Yet you have one, but really dont... 2) see above 3) you dont have a read on me | ||
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Like really???? | ||
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I already hate myself from basically all games for last year or so because i have misread you. | ||
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On May 10 2024 19:10 Palmar wrote: You misread me because you have a different thinking process to mine, and you refuse to acknowledge that. Trfel is town because pretty much every post I read that he made I found myself thinking "yeah that's reasonable". Although I actually made a mistake. I had mentally made a note that Trfel made the post that Jealous' pictures were made pre-game, but it was in fact scott that did it. I liked that post. But Trfel is calling scott mafia for that post but not really calling him mafia... I also liked thatpost, as i saidearlier. | ||
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On May 10 2024 11:34 Vivax wrote: What‘s the issue? It‘s like you‘re making up an expectation that scott is all he should write about Trfel looks like he thinks scott is mafia but really doesnt. | ||
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On May 10 2024 22:31 Vivax wrote: But what he did so far was extremely townie when it comes to his back and forth on me biting into the scott scumread. To me it looks like you're using a manipulation strategy to make him entrench his scott scumread while not scumreading scott yourself. 'scumread him properly/put out more reasons or else' While I think a townie should be able to see why he did it already or why I followed. I got why you voted foe scott, or at least i think i did. I am not sure i agree about Trfel. | ||
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On May 11 2024 22:45 Palmar wrote: Got nothing to say on jealous and chez atm Jealous made a really smart read on scott, similar to hia hapa read last game. | ||
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Im gonna be on compiter within an hour at last so i will sum up mu thoughts rhen. | ||
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On May 12 2024 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn shouldnt be at any point the target today Mind explaining why? | ||
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On May 11 2024 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote: I would like to point out that I’m am the nexus for all productive conversation that has happened in the game so far, if you weren’t reading closely What are these productive conversations youre talking about aside from the Jealous one that was in no way productive at all, and which conclusions have you come to by those conversations, because i can't see any? | ||
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On May 11 2024 15:18 Grackaroni wrote: [....] raynpelikoneet - It seems like he was trying to stir up suspicion between Scott/Trfel at the start of the game by blowing up Trfel's comment into something bigger than it was. Both players are most likely town. The reasons he lists for suspecting Trfel are not very convincing and I'm not sure that he believes them himself. That's simply just untrue. Of course reads on the first pages are not very convincing, i would be surprised if anyone was really confident in a read like 5 pages into the game, especially when game is slow. I mean, what better reason could someone have for scumreading someone than that Trfel called scott mafia, then backpedaled out of it? Because that's what i read.. If someone calls a post scummy i think they think the post is scummy (which is definition of someone being mafia -- making scummy post(s)). Furthermore i did definitely not stir up suspicion between Scott/Trfel, i clearly laid out my town read on scott, and i also gave room for Trfel to do what he wants to do, because i was not sure of that read after a couple of questions. Why was Trfel clearly town at that point? Because his "read" (which wasnt a read at all) on scott was almost the only thing he had done that time? And then he also drops two scum reads without feeling compelled to follow up on them at all. Not characteristic of Rayn's town play. That's actually exactly characteristic of my (especially) town play... In... like.... every... game... ever.... | ||
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On May 12 2024 02:45 Oatsmaster wrote: How is what jealous said about Scott alignment indicative but not what he said about me? Secondly, the only substantial parts of vivax’ filter are when we interact. Im leaning town on vivax Thirdly, I believe everyone except chez has given a read on me. Like what game are you playing then if you don’t see any of this?? Because it's not. He either made the picture pre game or not, that doesnt mean shit. He has no intention to lie about it as any alignment, it would just be stupid. I mean even if he made the picture pre game, he would post it as either alignment anyways, which makes it just as likely to post it as town as as mafia.... So basically i have no clue what you are harping on here, since you went on and on and on with it for no apparent reason to even figure out his alignment, you just tried to call him out of lying for something it makes no sense to lie about at all. If you dropped it after you figured out it's not alignment indicative, that would be fine. Like Scott did. | ||
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On May 12 2024 02:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax has received a warning for, well, the ranting. Please keep your comments related to the game, to other players, and/or humorous. It's in . Thank you, then i still have time. Currently i am leaning on voting for Oats, for reasons: He makes those snipy comments on things, like Trfel said, which IS basically his MO as town. I don't really see what he's trying to achieve with that here tbh, i dont know what his reads are, hell i dont even know why he is voting for scott rn? | ||
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On May 11 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote: So I liked at least one post from Vivax Trfel Scott Don’t wanna argue with rayn Didn’t like a post from Oats, also kinda don’t like Gracks posts, especially the one whining people can’t read him. I like this post aside from the Vivax read. I agree with the thing on Grack for a bit similar reasons. I first liked his case on me (i mean for him to be town), but then i realised he just before said that is something he wouldnt do as mafia, so like... umm... yes that's exactly what he would do as mafia when being self-aware of his own meta just before. Also i dont really know what some parts of the case even mean, or how he can come to those conclusions. It's extremely weird to say i pushed the conflict of scott/trfel further when i definitely did the opposite. | ||
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Lynch D2 if he doesnt vote. | ||
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He doesnt have to argue with me, he can still have a read on me. | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote: The point isn’t whether he made the pictures pregame or not lol that’s just having fun. The interesting part was how he seemed genuinely pressed that I didn’t believe him Why wouldnt he be, if he draw those pictures in game? | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:26 Oatsmaster wrote: I don’t like how he went around with saying I’m scummy for not contributing then weakly backpedaling it after I pressed him about it. His reasons for voting for grack were also weak and after grack made his most substantial post in the game. Let me see if i agree what you say about backpedaling after i smoke. | ||
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Because you "insulted him" and his paint skills. In a similar way if you told me "rayn is usually not involved at all in games D1" i would be insulted. | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me see if i agree what you say about backpedaling after i smoke. yeah i dont think i see any backpedaling here... Why do you want to lynch scott, Oats? | ||
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Can we get a bit more elaboration on that? | ||
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Also is this a scumread on Grack or Oats? | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:44 Grackaroni wrote: This game you found Scott's first post townie. Trfel found it scummy. You ask Trfel to explain his suspicion of the post. He gives an explanation and you say Trfel may be scum. Trfel obviously wasn't committing hard to scum reading Scott based off that one post, but then you start accusing Trfel of backtracking on his read and say that it's suspicious of him to have a scum read this early in the game. Yes, let me try to elaborate into that. The point i made about Trfel not doing the "Trfel thing" is because he does that all the time, he says something that is really smart or at least believeable, and then in the next sentence he doubts himself about that. What pinged me is that he actually had a real clear "read" (on scott) at that point. If Trfels post was: "Scott made a scummy post but i dont actually know if it makes him mafia.  ", that would be 100% town Trfel. Now i dont know if backpedaling from the post AFTER the post in itself (if that makes sense?) is scummy for Trfel, but i thought it MIGHT be. because it's not the MO i expect from him. Your other point for suspecting Trfel seems odd to me as well. You say that you expect Trfel to have a read on you by now. I think I recall you believing Cake slipped in a past game by giving you too easy of a town read. I don't think that you would view your play as transparent enough for Trfel to be able to read through you at the start of the game. Trfel had a good read on me last couple of games, actually last game he was basically the only one (not in QT's) to have a clear town read on me, and he was really proud of it in the obs after i died, or at least i got that impression of it. I'm not saying that either were clear town at the time, but at the moment that seems most likely to me. I'm pretty sure your most consistent method of scum hunting has just been to press and try to figure out who is genuinely interested in pursuing their scum reads, so I don't feel bad about my reasons to suspect you. Throwing out suspicion without follow-up is basically your number 1 red flag. That would be correct 10 years ago, that would be correct if i have "all the time in the world". That's not correct any more. Why does not anyone agree with you on that point? Why does not anyone tell you "Grack you have a good point on rayn there"? | ||
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No need for posts or anything, just a game. | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:11 Grackaroni wrote: I think the more important question is just why you think Oats/Palmar have been scummy. My read wasn't intended as a meta-read. I'm a bit iffy on voting Oats because he put himself up as the main lynch target by making a lot of abrasive useless comments and he showed that he can be way better at looking townie if he puts his mind to it like in the last game. It feels pretty similar to why people wanted to lynch me. I think Oats is mafia because he hasn't said anything smart. Now that in itself isnt necessarily scummy, but i dont think he has come up with any reasonable read this D1, hell i dont even know why he thinks scott is mafia. For instance the mafiascum game (while i had not played with Oats in last 10 years or so!!!!) he was pretty clear town just for the comments and follow ups he made. This game no, not at all. Palmar because i dont know why he liked Vivax at that point. Other stuff i could understand, his Vivax read i could not. | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote: You don’t see the typical mafia vote because no content into oh okay actually content unvote? I am sorry but no, i dont see that | ||
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Read his filter, still town. I think he is genuine. | ||
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If Oats is town how good do they look? | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:20 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m really confused because it’s incredibly obvious, what do you see Scott’s progression on me as?? Please expand.. | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:29 Chezinu wrote: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/0HxZGhp.png) Yes Chezinu i thought about this, but i think Jealous is most likely getting the power up anyways, and i dont give a shit about it because he is most likely town. | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes Chezinu i thought about this, but i think Jealous is most likely getting the power up anyways, and i dont give a shit about it because he is most likely town. Does that change your view of Oats? | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:20 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m really confused because it’s incredibly obvious, what do you see Scott’s progression on me as?? He said you have posted very little of substance. I agree. What am i supposed to disagree with, or see differently? | ||
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Who would you vote if not Oats rn? | ||
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I play to find mafia, not to survive. | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:46 Vivax wrote: Oh but it is so much more than just about finding mafia if played in unusual ways. But you think i am mafia? | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:52 scott31337 wrote: Oatsmaster (6):Jealous, Trfel, Palmar, Vivax, Chezinu, raynpelikoneet, scott31337 Grackaroni (1) scott31337, Oatsmaster, Trfel raynpelikoneet (1): Grackaroni Scott31337 (1): Oatsmaster, Vivax Oats & Grack, or else this doesn't make much sense. Hmmm What if Oats flips town, what then? | ||
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I think he gave very little, which i think points towards mafia rather than town. I think he as town should have spitted out all the thought he has in his mind, yet he chose not to. So i can only assume he is mafia. | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:54 Palmar wrote: I can lynch grack as well can you give quick reasoning for this pleasE? | ||
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On May 12 2024 04:57 Vivax wrote: I don't get your avenue I think he's not so why should I entertain the thought that he is? D1 lynches are mostly inaccurate. I don't want to feel the anxiety that I could be wrong here. Maybe I am. Why overthink it. Night is only MS paint, that's why i asked. | ||
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If that is the case then mafia is definitely Chezinu. There is no way Palmar shoots Grackaroni after basically commiting himself onto lynching Grackaroni regardless of Oats flip. Oats only basically tried to muddy the waters with you and Jealous, so that (amongst other things) i think makes you both town. Both me and Trfel had actual thread presence to change the lynch at any point. Trfel did nothing of that sort, and when there were 3 votes on Oats, i instead decided to make Chezinu commit to his read and told i am gonna vote for Oats most likely. I would not do that as mafia, because for me / Trfel there would have been options to take another route going late D1. | ||
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On May 13 2024 08:26 Palmar wrote: Can someone do the role analysis and post it so it makes sense. I’m too stupid to figure it out. Jealous got the power up guaranteed, confirmed by hosts. 1) Jealous is town: - Jealous shot Grackaroni -> mafia either ALSO shot Grackaroni or didn't shoot 1.1) mafia shot Grackaroni -> noone else really has any reason to shoot Grackaroni than Chezinu 1.2) mafia didn't shoot -> noone has reason to not shoot AFTER Vivax was modkilled, since not shooting there and there not being town vigilante makes MYLO D3 into LYLO D4 (you give town +1 mislynch by not shooting) Therefore, if Jealous is town, mafia was either afk all night 1 (after Vivax was modkilled), or shot Grackaroni. 2) Jealous is mafia That's pretty much it. | ||
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After the lynch and with the night post, the host will announce which player received the powerup, but not what powerup they received. They can not be shot that night. Does that mean a shot on that player is not allowed, or does it mean that player is protected if shot? | ||
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I'm gonna read again, i have to take Cake to work in an hour or so, i will make a bigger post after i get back from there. | ||
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Here are his posts regarding Oats and his other lynch candidate Grack: On May 11 2024 03:38 Palmar wrote: See what would’ve been really townie is if jealous had premade a bunch of images and the not posted them. Also maybe just lynch Grack and Chez On May 11 2024 05:07 Palmar wrote: With the tiny amount of information in the thread at the moment I’m inclined to lynch into oats and grack and I kinda don’t wanna lynch Scott, truffle, rayn and Vivax. I need to make jealous do a little more to decide because pre-planned entries are for noobs and chez is well….. chez On May 11 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote: So I liked at least one post from Vivax Trfel Scott Don’t wanna argue with rayn Didn’t like a post from Oats, also kinda don’t like Gracks posts, especially the one whining people can’t read him. On May 12 2024 04:54 Palmar wrote: I can lynch grack as well On May 12 2024 04:56 Palmar wrote: No I think I'll stick with Oats, I still really dislike his page 1 filter. For the underlined parts; First are the parts where he kind of takes some sort of stance on the discussion on Jealous' paint posts. Notice that at this point he doesn't still find Oats scummy. He wants to lynch Grack or Chez. Then, later on, he wants to lynch Oats, because he "didn't like one of his posts". Still Grack is there, with more posts not to like. Notice that he has voted for Oats just before. On May 11 2024 22:29 Palmar wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster Why is Oats his top lynch target here and not Grack? Finally he is sticking with Oats, because he didn't like his page 1 of filter. He never explains this. But when i start asking questions about it, he says this: On May 12 2024 04:58 Palmar wrote: If Oats is town we just lynch Grack. If Oats is scum on the other hand, we lynch Grack. I really don't see why Palmar is voting for Oats instead of Grack here? I mean if i am in Palmar's position here, i know my vote doesn't even matter at this point, and based on his posts he is like 100% sure that Grack is mafia, but not 100% sure Oats is mafia. Why is his vote on Oats? I don't think it should be in the first place on Oats at all. | ||
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I don't know how he had a town read on Vivax when he did. I tried to ask him what is the post he liked, he never answered. I would like to hear the answer to that. I don't know why his stance on me is "i dont wanna argue with rayn". It's not like he has to argue with me, he can still have a read on me, and if he doesnt like an argument i present, he can just say "fuck you". | ||
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It was weekend, it's entirely possible Palmar either missed the whole NK, sent in an NK on Vivax and didn't bother to look after that, or sent a kill on Jealous not knowing Jealous cannot be killed. Palmar 100% never shoots Grackaroni there as mafia, but all of those other options are more likely than that mafia shot Grackaroni anyways. | ||
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Oats + Jealous: Oats makes a ridiculous "case" on his scumbuddy that makes everyone, including his scumbuddy to vote for him Oats + scott: Oats makes a ridiculous "case" on Jealous that makes everyone, including his scumbuddy to vote for him, then he lands on his scumbuddy as his other scumread... Oats + Trfel: Being almost two of the most active players, they together fail to coordinate to find any reasonable town lynch. Oats + rayn: same as above, and i can tell you there is 0% chance Oats gets lynched this game D1 if i was mafia with him. Even if i dont have any time at all, i dont coordinate with my team THAT horribly. Oats + Chezinu: they just failed to coordinate because time constraints. Oats + Palmar: same as above | ||
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On May 13 2024 16:38 Jealous wrote: The crazy thing is at least one of you has to be town, it could easily be both, and at most one of your targets is scum, and both of you made such compelling arguments. I am too tired to paint or decide which makes more sense, but I will be back tomorrow. Props to both of y'all. Wait who? Me and Trfel? Why is Trfel's argument compelling to you? | ||
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On May 13 2024 16:43 Jealous wrote: And one of us showed up and made up a reason for why they did make the NK as town and the other is just not bothering to counter? Truth to be told there IS a reason why you would do what you did as mafia. You don't want to make 2 night kills instead of one, because MYLO is better than LYLO as there is more targets to lynch alive. It's an argument to make tbh. It's however not an argument to make, because basically lying in any other way is more beneficial for you as mafia lol. | ||
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On May 13 2024 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes, we already know whoever is mafia WAS bussing Oats. That's why i made the post where i tried to make my point clear that i think there was no reason for anyone other than Chezinu or Palmar to do that, because they could have better options to handle D1. | ||
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On May 13 2024 17:06 Jealous wrote: Only one person has first vote (though cancelled) and only one person voted after it was cancelled and stuck with it. Scott and myself. Either I'm scum or scott is scum or neither is scum and I think that Ockham's would dictate that it is the last of these options that makes the most sense. Both other options would necessitate one of us being the first to vote and be bussing. So, when looking at who is bussing, it has to be someone who voted after myself and Scott unless Scott bussed and got cold feet on no push-back (IIRC) or I saw a wagon start and die and decide that "now is the time to bus my partner Oats who publicly called me out so I get town cred." Starting a town circle knowing that I am town and there is sufficient evidence that someone else is town feels like the logical play here for town, knowing that scum is alone and cannot collude with someone. I think youre entirely right here, and ism advocating the same thing, even if i am not part of it. Just dont get antsy with Trfel's case. It doesnt do any good if toure town. | ||
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He can probably just ride with Palmar or Chezinu and be good with it without too much hassle. Especially since he would have to KNOW he is lying in making a case on you here, and i know i at least am notorious of changing my mind really fast if i see something that is bullshit. If i decided that Trfel made a big bullshit case on you, you would probably be on board as well. Is it a good idea to do that, when you have easier options? Not saying Trfel is 100% town for making a bad case, just saying i think it is most likely a case made by a townie, based on his MO. | ||
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I am more into what Palmar and Chezinu have to say atm. | ||
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On May 13 2024 18:14 Palmar wrote: I'm voting you because the only other option is to assume you're just monumentally stupid. I don't think you are, so you must be mafia. If that's what you think i must say | ||
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On May 13 2024 18:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why should i think anyone else is mafia, based on what i have laid out all game? And if i am wrong, why dont you correct me instead of just call me mafia? Am i REALLY mafia because i think youre mafia? | ||
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Why did you vote for Oats and not Grack? Why didnt you want to have a dead on me D1? | ||
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On May 13 2024 18:14 Palmar wrote: I'm voting you because the only other option is to assume you're just monumentally stupid. I don't think you are, so you must be mafia. I can be swayed into a lot of things for being stupid, this is not one of them. | ||
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On May 13 2024 19:05 Trfel wrote: Palmar also didn't post the entirety of Night 1. I don't think of Palmar as a player to miss night actions, and it's possible that he just didn't want to post if it had to be a Paint picture, but it's interesting nevertheless. It's weekend. Why not? | ||
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Can you answer my concerns in case youre town? | ||
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On May 13 2024 21:40 Palmar wrote: All your concerns are stupid is my answer. Please? | ||
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Aside from Palmar i am not too much against lynching Chezinu. I dont really think anyone else has a chance of being mafia. | ||
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