EPTOn May 12 2024 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn shouldnt be at any point the target today
Rayn shouldnt be at any point the target today
Mind explaining why?
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On May 11 2024 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote: I would like to point out that I’m am the nexus for all productive conversation that has happened in the game so far, if you weren’t reading closely What are these productive conversations youre talking about aside from the Jealous one that was in no way productive at all, and which conclusions have you come to by those conversations, because i can't see any? | ||
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On May 11 2024 15:18 Grackaroni wrote: [....] raynpelikoneet - It seems like he was trying to stir up suspicion between Scott/Trfel at the start of the game by blowing up Trfel's comment into something bigger than it was. Both players are most likely town. The reasons he lists for suspecting Trfel are not very convincing and I'm not sure that he believes them himself. That's simply just untrue. Of course reads on the first pages are not very convincing, i would be surprised if anyone was really confident in a read like 5 pages into the game, especially when game is slow. I mean, what better reason could someone have for scumreading someone than that Trfel called scott mafia, then backpedaled out of it? Because that's what i read.. If someone calls a post scummy i think they think the post is scummy (which is definition of someone being mafia -- making scummy post(s)). Furthermore i did definitely not stir up suspicion between Scott/Trfel, i clearly laid out my town read on scott, and i also gave room for Trfel to do what he wants to do, because i was not sure of that read after a couple of questions. Why was Trfel clearly town at that point? Because his "read" (which wasnt a read at all) on scott was almost the only thing he had done that time? And then he also drops two scum reads without feeling compelled to follow up on them at all. Not characteristic of Rayn's town play. That's actually exactly characteristic of my (especially) town play... In... like.... every... game... ever.... | ||
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On May 12 2024 02:45 Oatsmaster wrote: How is what jealous said about Scott alignment indicative but not what he said about me? Secondly, the only substantial parts of vivax’ filter are when we interact. Im leaning town on vivax Thirdly, I believe everyone except chez has given a read on me. Like what game are you playing then if you don’t see any of this?? Because it's not. He either made the picture pre game or not, that doesnt mean shit. He has no intention to lie about it as any alignment, it would just be stupid. I mean even if he made the picture pre game, he would post it as either alignment anyways, which makes it just as likely to post it as town as as mafia.... So basically i have no clue what you are harping on here, since you went on and on and on with it for no apparent reason to even figure out his alignment, you just tried to call him out of lying for something it makes no sense to lie about at all. If you dropped it after you figured out it's not alignment indicative, that would be fine. Like Scott did. | ||
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On May 12 2024 02:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax has received a warning for, well, the ranting. Please keep your comments related to the game, to other players, and/or humorous. It's in . Thank you, then i still have time. Currently i am leaning on voting for Oats, for reasons: He makes those snipy comments on things, like Trfel said, which IS basically his MO as town. I don't really see what he's trying to achieve with that here tbh, i dont know what his reads are, hell i dont even know why he is voting for scott rn? | ||
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On May 11 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote: So I liked at least one post from Vivax Trfel Scott Don’t wanna argue with rayn Didn’t like a post from Oats, also kinda don’t like Gracks posts, especially the one whining people can’t read him. I like this post aside from the Vivax read. I agree with the thing on Grack for a bit similar reasons. I first liked his case on me (i mean for him to be town), but then i realised he just before said that is something he wouldnt do as mafia, so like... umm... yes that's exactly what he would do as mafia when being self-aware of his own meta just before. Also i dont really know what some parts of the case even mean, or how he can come to those conclusions. It's extremely weird to say i pushed the conflict of scott/trfel further when i definitely did the opposite. | ||
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Lynch D2 if he doesnt vote. | ||
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He doesnt have to argue with me, he can still have a read on me. | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote: The point isn’t whether he made the pictures pregame or not lol that’s just having fun. The interesting part was how he seemed genuinely pressed that I didn’t believe him Why wouldnt he be, if he draw those pictures in game? | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:26 Oatsmaster wrote: I don’t like how he went around with saying I’m scummy for not contributing then weakly backpedaling it after I pressed him about it. His reasons for voting for grack were also weak and after grack made his most substantial post in the game. Let me see if i agree what you say about backpedaling after i smoke. | ||
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Because you "insulted him" and his paint skills. In a similar way if you told me "rayn is usually not involved at all in games D1" i would be insulted. | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me see if i agree what you say about backpedaling after i smoke. yeah i dont think i see any backpedaling here... Why do you want to lynch scott, Oats? | ||
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Can we get a bit more elaboration on that? | ||
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Also is this a scumread on Grack or Oats? | ||
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On May 12 2024 03:44 Grackaroni wrote: This game you found Scott's first post townie. Trfel found it scummy. You ask Trfel to explain his suspicion of the post. He gives an explanation and you say Trfel may be scum. Trfel obviously wasn't committing hard to scum reading Scott based off that one post, but then you start accusing Trfel of backtracking on his read and say that it's suspicious of him to have a scum read this early in the game. Yes, let me try to elaborate into that. The point i made about Trfel not doing the "Trfel thing" is because he does that all the time, he says something that is really smart or at least believeable, and then in the next sentence he doubts himself about that. What pinged me is that he actually had a real clear "read" (on scott) at that point. If Trfels post was: "Scott made a scummy post but i dont actually know if it makes him mafia.  ", that would be 100% town Trfel. Now i dont know if backpedaling from the post AFTER the post in itself (if that makes sense?) is scummy for Trfel, but i thought it MIGHT be. because it's not the MO i expect from him. Your other point for suspecting Trfel seems odd to me as well. You say that you expect Trfel to have a read on you by now. I think I recall you believing Cake slipped in a past game by giving you too easy of a town read. I don't think that you would view your play as transparent enough for Trfel to be able to read through you at the start of the game. Trfel had a good read on me last couple of games, actually last game he was basically the only one (not in QT's) to have a clear town read on me, and he was really proud of it in the obs after i died, or at least i got that impression of it. I'm not saying that either were clear town at the time, but at the moment that seems most likely to me. I'm pretty sure your most consistent method of scum hunting has just been to press and try to figure out who is genuinely interested in pursuing their scum reads, so I don't feel bad about my reasons to suspect you. Throwing out suspicion without follow-up is basically your number 1 red flag. That would be correct 10 years ago, that would be correct if i have "all the time in the world". That's not correct any more. Why does not anyone agree with you on that point? Why does not anyone tell you "Grack you have a good point on rayn there"? | ||
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