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Lynch Palmar. Make it Jealous vs. DMB the next day and it's an easy W if DMB is town, even though neither is responsible for his ML. Iamp and DP move their votes around to save DP.
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Jealous
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Lynch Palmar. Make it Jealous vs. DMB the next day and it's an easy W if DMB is town, even though neither is responsible for his ML. Iamp and DP move their votes around to save DP. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:01 Jealous wrote: This just makes sense to me. It's exactly how today has been shaping up. Lynch Palmar. Make it Jealous vs. DMB the next day and it's an easy W if DMB is town, even though neither is responsible for his ML. Iamp and DP move their votes around to save DP. Wait so you think dmb is town now?? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=524#10475 And his post where he just agree with no activity might be ok. | ||
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iamperfection
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:17 iamperfection wrote: If jealous is town and let's say dp is town. Would leave meapak and jat. Mz has been doing this mirror thing where he spews what was just said or agrees with me. https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=524#10475 And his post where he just agree with no activity might be ok. Agree that has to be the team. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:17 iamperfection wrote: If jealous is town and let's say dp is town. Would leave meapak and jat. Mz has been doing this mirror thing where he spews what was just said or agrees with me. https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=524#10475 And his post where he just agree with no activity might be ok. If jealous is town (does not seem very likely to me), you should really revisit the bolded assumption more critically. Fortunately, it would become more obvious with each night that dp is not killed. MZ is not the only one who just repeated/agreed with what you had to say today. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:43 justanothertownie wrote: If jealous is town (does not seem very likely to me), you should really revisit the bolded assumption more critically. Fortunately, it would become more obvious with each night that dp is not killed. MZ is not the only one who just repeated/agreed with what you had to say today. Oh come off it. I didn’t just repeat what perfection says I had been saying that about the unflipped wagons being called town v town with dmb forever. And I also don’t agree that jealous is town just that the possibility is there. | ||
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justanothertownie
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justanothertownie
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: I mean, the iamp dp idea is frightening but I don't think that is very likely. Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here. It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote: Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here. It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town. Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it. | ||
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Jealous
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On March 21 2024 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it. It's just one possibility, I plan on doing more but work is demanding today. It's one of the first I explored because it is indeed scary as mentioned above, and if it is the case, the game is shaping up almost exactly in their favor. Hammer Palmar, receive 0% of the heat for it, say "I am never voting iamp" and then ride off into the sunset on free ML on me or potential ML on DMB. My feeling still is that DMB is objectively scummy, that her reads flip on me makes 0 fucking sense, the multiple slips/near-slips, and that stuff like the German thing/all of the dumbtells is just too much. However, it is counterbalanced by my having made basically the same exact "mistake" with CopCake. There is undeniably a non-zero chance that DMB is town, and if that is the case, then the game will have played out exactly as scum would want. And who was the scum that set up this situation, then? That's what this first proposed analysis was about. And again, I see almost no way that DMB and DP are on a team together, unless their plan to spread scum around when she went to DP. However, around that time, Vivax was openly thirsting to lynch DP IIRC, so that would have been a really dumb plan. So, I find it more likely that DMB and DP can't both be scum. I know that I'm not scum with DMB and that's the theory that several others have been pushing, so I know that town is going into an objectively wrong direction, too. That's why I felt like I had to do something, because I know that if town sentiment is "lynch DMB or Jealous, then lynch the other," that is an autoloss for town. | ||
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Jealous
10268 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, I am also not sure that thought progress makes sense to me. The whole premise of "people who hammer need to mafia" is quite questionable. As are all conclusions drawn from it. Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you? ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/dehh9rp.png) In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you? | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
Sorry I am drunk. We had big wine, rum and Schnaps tasting in the company | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On March 21 2024 07:15 Jealous wrote: Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you? In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you? I wouldn't call that eating popcorn considering the time in which this happened. Also, I really do not know why you think iamp and dp have to be of the same alignment. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 21 2024 07:15 Jealous wrote: Also, I mean, does this movement from town make sense to you? In theory it could be three scum just eating popcorn, but that would then have to be (assuming you are town) DMB, Rels, and MZ. Does that team sound plausible to you? How could I be in a team with Rels? Nobody was suspicious about Rels until I drew DP and Vivax's attention to my theory and they discussed it. Why should I draw people's attention to Rels in the first place if nobody finds anything suspicious about him and if he would be my "scum colleague"? | ||
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Jealous
10268 Posts
On March 21 2024 07:19 justanothertownie wrote: I wouldn't call that eating popcorn considering the time in which this happened. Also, I really do not know why you think iamp and dp have to be of the same alignment. I mean, the remaining four players are the only ones who didn't change their vote, and none were potential lynch targets. So, that's basically eating popcorn. Okay, so what alignments do you think make sense with this vote movement? | ||
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Jealous
10268 Posts
On March 21 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote: Part of me just Thinks jealous is trying to derail his partners wagon here. It’s weird how he kind of called dmb town. I'm trying to picture a world where DMB is town and what that would mean about the rest of the game, because the wagon on DMB formed way too easily, and I am apparently the only alternative. Even if DMB flips scum, it seems like I'll be next, and again - that is a guaranteed town loss. So, I'm trying to spitball ideas so that town doesn't lose either today with a potential DMB ML or with mine "tomorrow." Certainly seems like it could be more productive to discuss options and potential teams than it does to just do nothing, like some people suggested. If DMB is town, that would only benefit scum. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 21 2024 07:13 Jealous wrote: It's just one possibility, I plan on doing more but work is demanding today. It's one of the first I explored because it is indeed scary as mentioned above, and if it is the case, the game is shaping up almost exactly in their favor. Hammer Palmar, receive 0% of the heat for it, say "I am never voting iamp" and then ride off into the sunset on free ML on me or potential ML on DMB. My feeling still is that DMB is objectively scummy, that her reads flip on me makes 0 fucking sense, the multiple slips/near-slips, and that stuff like the German thing/all of the dumbtells is just too much. However, it is counterbalanced by my having made basically the same exact "mistake" with CopCake. There is undeniably a non-zero chance that DMB is town, and if that is the case, then the game will have played out exactly as scum would want. And who was the scum that set up this situation, then? That's what this first proposed analysis was about. And again, I see almost no way that DMB and DP are on a team together, unless their plan to spread scum around when she went to DP. However, around that time, Vivax was openly thirsting to lynch DP IIRC, so that would have been a really dumb plan. So, I find it more likely that DMB and DP can't both be scum. I know that I'm not scum with DMB and that's the theory that several others have been pushing, so I know that town is going into an objectively wrong direction, too. That's why I felt like I had to do something, because I know that if town sentiment is "lynch DMB or Jealous, then lynch the other," that is an autoloss for town. I was long unsure what aligment you could most likely have. I like to compare games from the people. Your old game (even when it was 8 years ago) made me think you are kinda Town, but I didn´t like how you were posting after the Koshi nk. That was the point were I was more sure you could possibly be scum. At the time were you and CC were the vote wagons. I was really not so sure about your aligment and I am not supposed to vote outside of the wagons otherwise I get shit on my head from Town. I had to deside which one of you two I should vote, so I rather voted on CC who wanted to get out of the game and yes I thougt of her as town, but I was also unsure about you. So sorry to vote the one who really seemed sad in the game. When there was the next lynch between you and Palmar, I already got so annoyed and paranoid about two wagons who are pushed by Dp again, that I didn´t want to vote any wagon pushed by him. And there happend the (Town)mistake that I tried to avoid one lynch before. Not voting outside of the wagons or I will get called scum. I knew that voting outside will get me scumpoints. So my question is why should I make chaos here and getting more attantion instead of just voting Palmar or you? After the lynch and the Koshi nightkill I was more pissed about my self because maybe I should have voted for you. Also vivax changed his vote to cc because of dp pushing and asking us to vote CC. He was Town. I am Town. We were morons for listining to scumDP for this. | ||
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