EPTSeriously doubt he would use his daughter as an excuse to be afk :/
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CopCake
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Seriously doubt he would use his daughter as an excuse to be afk :/ | ||
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justanothertownie
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On March 11 2024 04:40 CopCake wrote: Btw if my opinion is somehow important, I think Rels is town. Seriously doubt he would use his daughter as an excuse to be afk :/ Why would that be alignment indicative? The obvious thing to do is to assume that what he said is true regardless of his alignment. | ||
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CopCake
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justanothertownie
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CopCake
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On March 11 2024 04:46 justanothertownie wrote: You wouldn't tell if there were out of the game reason preventing you from spending a lot of time as mafia but as town you would? That does not make any sense to me. I try not to use irl excuses stuff in games, specially as mafia. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On March 11 2024 04:52 CopCake wrote: I try not to use irl excuses stuff in games, specially as mafia. I get that. It just does not make sense to differentiate between alignments. I mean we are not talking about him making it up. Carry on I guess. I don't think this makes him town. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On March 11 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote: marv would also always lynched VE over cc. I agree with this. I mean it isn't even hard. I am absolutely willing to be burned by a lazy non-fun-having VE if it's somehow wrong. The VE has no fun = mafia angle is in my brain an incredibly, incredibly strong point. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On March 11 2024 04:52 CopCake wrote: I try not to use irl excuses stuff in games, specially as mafia. I appreciate this. I do it myself, I never make excuses for not paying attention. People just need to take it at face value. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
But I think that all you Jub jubs will not lynch cake once I’m dead. So I feel like I need to lynch cake today. | ||
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DarthPunk
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On March 11 2024 05:47 DarthPunk wrote: What games of cake do you want me to read perfection? none i was just looking through them all and i thought it was clear that less activity meant scum but the most recent scum game had one of the larger filters in the game so i threw that thought out. Even though it was less posting in the context of that game it was a lot of posting. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 11 2024 05:49 iamperfection wrote: none i was just looking through them all and i thought it was clear that less activity meant scum but the most recent scum game had one of the larger filters in the game so i threw that thought out. Even though it was less posting in the context of that game it was a lot of posting. Yes. I saw that too. And most of it was a tunnel on me. I want to see cake have actual reads and comments about someone that is not me before I get off a wagon. And I also have issues with people having vague references to her meta while ignoring the objectively scummy shit she has done this game. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On March 11 2024 05:53 DarthPunk wrote: Yes. I saw that too. And most of it was a tunnel on me. I want to see cake have actual reads and comments about someone that is not me before I get off a wagon. And I also have issues with people having vague references to her meta while ignoring the objectively scummy shit she has done this game. i dont know the still trying to "figure out" your alignment just seems so bizarre for either alignment. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 11 2024 06:00 iamperfection wrote: i dont know the still trying to "figure out" your alignment just seems so bizarre for either alignment. It’s hard for her to move her tunnel cause that’s all she can do. Let’s see if she can finally anyone else as mafia with the Same conviction . | ||
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Koshi
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
##vote cake and I have more town reads voting cake. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 06 2024 07:21 Jealous wrote: I honestly got the impression that marv vs. Palmar was likely to be TvT but I can see it from this POV, too. Solid post, I'm liking my town read on Koshi. His first post with some reads (aside from voting vivax for mayor) and he townreads Koshi and also feels PalmarVMarv is TvT. Next we have his massive list post (just gonna link it bc it’s like 12k words as a quote): https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=124#2476 So he starts with a scumread on rayn but it’s a very heavily caveated read and some of it is based on meta. He agrees a lot with vivax and Koshi. He calls oats scum but doesn’t feel strongly about it other than Oats rubbing him the wrong way. Townreads DP, Vivax, Sandroba, Maybe Marv (which is in line with him thinking MarvVPalmar was TvT) he’s also a slight town read on me. First oddity that stands out is that now he’s got Palmar as a null read after previously saying he viewed PalmarVMarv as TVT but it’s early D1 so reads can change fairly quickly. JAT, DMB, and Trfel all land in the null slot with Palmar, can’t really blame him at that point in time for any of those reads. Based on his color coding, he’s got CC as a stronger scum read based on her lack of productivity. He also leans red on JSL and slam, again none of these I can fault him for at this point. He rounds things out with a TR of himself, hapa(why? Bc scum wouldn’t ask to get modkilled?) and of course koshi. He’s got VE and Rels as null so we’ll remember that as we read through. Don’t really have any big gripes with this most given the context of the time it was made, obviously things like Rayn and slam were wrong in hindsight but he did have early suspicions of Oats and TTS. An interesting post script here is that while most of thread was initially positive about the big list, one of our flipped scum was not: On March 06 2024 09:22 Oatsmaster wrote: The over explanation is real I don’t think the list post makes jealous townie Next post worth talking about: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=130#2589 Willing to sheep Koshi for the Trfel lynch, can’t really say much against that because I essentially sheep’d for the D1 lynch as well although I did my best to do some due diligence it was still rushed. He gets hung up a bit on Slam’s claim, he also views JAT’s fight against Vivax as townie because of how bad it looks from a scum perspective, which tbh I understand that line of thinking bc it’s one of the reasons I’m still holding onto a slight TR of koshi because of how bad his push to save oats was. Oats really goes after Jealous for a bit, regarding his votes on Trfel instead of cake or slam, really hard to read stuff from a flipped scum since we know they’re gonna be trying to obfuscate as much as possible, I think this is NAI for copcake but it does make Jealous look a little better since he’s defending himself from the weak argument of a flipped scum. Jealous was also the only person to give me links for the discussion when I got back to the thread so I really appreciated that. The next few posts are the first ones I have a problem with: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=132#2638 He’s still trying to say he’d lynch slam over cake which now given how things have played out is a real red flag for me. This post is also really bad: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=135#2690 it’s like he’s in-thread coaching oats. In fact his whole interaction with Oats now reads really off to me, like oats applied pressure to a buddy in an awkward manner, and jealous realizes it didn’t make oats look good and is now trying to do damage control. However he gets back on track down the line with another scumread of copcake here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3514 He’s answering a post from Marv and I still don’t think Marv was correct in his read, the only part I’m a little iffy on is where he says he wants to kill copcake regardless of alignment because as frustrating as bad townies are, they are still town. While I agree copcake is scummy and should go bc she’s scum, I wouldn’t be as stoked if his only reason was to just get rid of her, but I don’t think that’s his only reason. Jealous then gets into it with rayn regarding his reads post and the fact that he missed slam’s claim, rayn correctly points out that jealous shares a lot of the same reads as him to which jealous does some really strange acrobatics where he says rayn could be sharing the same reads in order to pocket him. In fact given Rayn’s townflip, it feels like Jealous is forcing a scumread here a, like he doesn’t really have that strong of a reason to call rayn scum but he’s defending it with a crazy amount of assumptions. Next Vivax comes after Jealous for his vote on Trfel instead of pushing for copcake/rayn, Vivax also points out that Jealous is giving JAT a townread for doing the same thing that copcake did and he’s calling copcake scum. Jealous’s explanation is that he believed copcake was sheeping versus JAT who jealous believes is coming up with his own ideas. Jealous basically just explains it away by sheeping koshi. Before the night post Koshi posts: On March 07 2024 09:34 Koshi wrote: I am pretty sure I wont die. But for shit and giggles. MZ Rels Jacob Mebaby TTS Because I hope you are town VE. Less than 30 minutes later Jealous posts: On March 07 2024 09:55 Jealous wrote: Hmm. I guess I'd say that my perception of the following improved overall: Palmar JAT rayn (improved relative to me gut-scum-reading him in my initial reads list, but not too much) My perception of the following did not: VE DMB MZ Rels Between the above I found DMB and VE to be the more erratic and thus unhelpful posters for the most part. Rels and MZ just haven't done much recently in general, though I guess VE can be added to that list too; VE's posts over the last 24 hours are just a big fat nothingburger. MZ at least seems to be trying to catch up after a shitty day so I can be patient there at the moment. Rels, similar story, though I agree with whoever said that they would have "lynched over half the game" over Trfels. So, TLDR, I guess my top contenders from that list would be VE and DMB, followed by probably rayn (though I do want to give them more time to work on things, as I mentioned before, I did like how they approached the CopCake discussion overnight). As for names outside of that list, I think TTS and CopCake both deserve a mention. Except for Jacob on Koshi’s list and VE on Jealous’ those are extremely similar scumlists. Interestingly Jealous also finds an evolution on his rayn read prior to the daypost where Rayn dies. Jealous then agrees with a reads post of mine with the xception of Marv and JAT who I had as lean scum, he suggests adding copcake and Rels, I believe this was the portion of the game where I started to townread Cake for a bit due to the stuff with JSL but after he claimed his role I reconsidered. Jealous is quick to vote Oats which comes off as a little odd given the hard time he had accepting Slam’s claim early on but it’s whatever. This might be one of the more interesting posts in Jealou’s filter https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=204#4072 I don’t think a lot of people have actually gone back and really looked through the raynVPalmar stuff very closely Rayn is probably screaming in the obs rn. Jealous once again makes a reads list for Oats, I just don’t understand why he does this. Jealous spent most of D1 solidly in Koshi’s pocket but he definitely breaks out D2, he goes after Koshi for trying to not lynch oats After saying his perception of Rels got worse after the D1 lynch, Jealous does a filter dive and decides he’s leaning town: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=219#4372 this is inline with his previous statements when he initially downgraded his perception of rels. He posts the infamous picture in response toa bunch of Koshi posts He quotes a post where Iamp calls VE, TTS, and Palmar scum and agrees with it. Calls out Rels for trying to take credit for the flip: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=268#5356 Most of the rest of his filter is pushinig for copcake today, ngl I’ve been working on this post for almost 3 hours and I’m kinda losing steam. So what have I learned? I think the worst part about Jealous are the Oats interactions, they're very strange and don't really make much sense, however Jealous did stay the course on the Oats lynch which is more than can be said for myself, Koshi, and others. I think Jealous has been consistent and correct with his push onto Cake but I would really like to get an up to date read from him on Rels. I don't think Jealous is scum, I think he sheep'd koshi very very hard but has since then broke away and started analyzinig the game on his own. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Jealous town, gonna take a break and do Rels next. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 11 2024 01:49 Jealous wrote: CopCake first, and if nothing drastic happens, I am fine with voting VE next cycle. Ok this is fine and in line with his early reads list, he's just been very tunneled on Cop so I guess he hasn't read much beyond that. | ||
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