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Catching up now, going to start with the easy stuff first then respond to rayn's question from last night ET because I think that is more interesting/involved to get into.
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On March 07 2024 03:32 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:29 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:27 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.
We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).
1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why
But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad. @JAT This was discussed a lot today. Those are policy lynches. Why Palmar felt the need to talk about this so often is anyones guess but he never actually pushed to go through with those. Tfrel reasons to be lynched were atrocious. I dont think he even deserved the Political treatment.
I mean you are right in a way. It is highly debatable if Trfel really should have been part of this list.now that I think of it.
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On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high.
I usually dont, I find it odd :D
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My cat just brought in a live bird. That’s always a hoot.
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On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high.
You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all.
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On March 07 2024 03:36 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. I usually dont, I find it odd :D
Ultimately if town don’t defend town, The game is extremely difficult.
I’ve defended you for instance. Because I want to shut down that avenue and keep open the other avenues I’m interested in.
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On March 07 2024 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all.
Yeah but you’re my prickly little hedgehog and I loves you ❤️
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On March 07 2024 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all.
But to get to the actual point - I also think the way how Palmar celebrated that DP post was unwarranted. You think that was genuine?
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On March 07 2024 03:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all. Yeah but you’re my prickly little hedgehog and I loves you ❤️
❤️
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On March 07 2024 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all. But to get to the actual point - I also think the way how Palmar celebrated that DP post was unwarranted. You think that was genuine?
I don’t think anything of it either way. People always get on Palmar for all sorts of things. Last game is a great example. So ,any reasons Palmar was mafia, none of them I cared about because I thought he was town.
This game is less clear cut for me, but I’m still not likely going to think palmar is mafia for reasons other people do
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On March 07 2024 03:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:36 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. I usually dont, I find it odd :D Ultimately if town don’t defend town, The game is extremely difficult. I’ve defended you for instance. Because I want to shut down that avenue and keep open the other avenues I’m interested in.
But I dont call you town for deffending me 🐝
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On March 07 2024 03:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all. But to get to the actual point - I also think the way how Palmar celebrated that DP post was unwarranted. You think that was genuine? I don’t think anything of it either way. People always get on Palmar for all sorts of things. Last game is a great example. So ,any reasons Palmar was mafia, none of them I cared about because I thought he was town. This game is less clear cut for me, but I’m still not likely going to think palmar is mafia for reasons other people do
Who is in your scum radar?
Or do you wanna post lista until eotd?
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On March 07 2024 00:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:39 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
Cop might just be dumb. I felt like dmb knew trfels alignment ignored me multiple times when I said the play was different. Trfel themselves admitted they were playing bad
yes i am more sure of dmb being mafia here, but cake still said: 1) vivax/dp/iamp changed the lynch from palmar (for no reason as mafia) 2) dp pocketed palmar (and palmar is not town) it does not sit well with me. i just cant wrap my head around it... i dont understand how she is trying to explain this now (she has), if someone can read that to me so i can understand it it would be really nice. You just dont want to understand. 🫨 that's just wrong. im the fucking best town player in this game with JAT even if i am wrong on you and those plebs almost lynched him. Rayn listen to me for a moment please. You’re doing this thing you always do where something doesn’t make logical sense to you and drawing the conclusion it must come from mafia. I think it’s really quite unlikely CC is mafia. Her play feels quite different to when we were mafia. There I struggled to get her to do much other stuff than defend herself. Which is fair enough. Here she has a bunch of crazy opinions and is constantly sticking her neck out. The simple explanation is she is super into the game and is thinking about things in a way you don’t grasp and doesn’t make sense to you. She’s playing like some blend of town Koshi/Vivax. Just consider it for me please
I don't want to get too in the weeds here but this is part of my frustration/desire to just lynch CopCake and call it a day. Basically, if we assume the following:
town!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon.
... and...
scum!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon.
So QED CopCake, even if town, is being more of a hindrance than a beneficial force.
However, I will admit I like what her posting brought out of rayn in my absence, so perhaps I am being a bit too harsh here. Then again, it feels more like rayn putting a lot of work to untangle what CopCake is saying, more so than CopCake saying good things, IMO.
TL;DR: I can be convinced to lynch vote someone else with a strong case against them, but CopCake's interactions so far make me think this might be a good lynch in general.
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On March 07 2024 03:43 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 03:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:30 CopCake wrote:On March 07 2024 03:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Marv, I have a question.
If we were playing another game and you have a wagon on you and then I come and say “Hey marv is town because of this and this and this” would you lock me as 100% town? I think you know the answer - no. But if your reasons are good it can help. Context is all important as it could be mafia looking for cred. Because Palmar defends DP for that reason… I don’t know how to go down this rabbit hole haha. It’s natural to think someone defending you is townie. Especially when pressure is high. You sort of defended me yesterday. I do not think that makes you town at all. But to get to the actual point - I also think the way how Palmar celebrated that DP post was unwarranted. You think that was genuine? I don’t think anything of it either way. People always get on Palmar for all sorts of things. Last game is a great example. So ,any reasons Palmar was mafia, none of them I cared about because I thought he was town. This game is less clear cut for me, but I’m still not likely going to think palmar is mafia for reasons other people do Who is in your scum radar? Or do you wanna post lista until eotd?
Not really necessary as I have two discord partners. Also eod for me is like 4h before deadline so :p
I’m not really one for pre-possible death posts these days. Too lazy.
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People really thinking the tea thing serious when it was just a enganging thing smh.
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On March 07 2024 03:43 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:39 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
Cop might just be dumb. I felt like dmb knew trfels alignment ignored me multiple times when I said the play was different. Trfel themselves admitted they were playing bad
yes i am more sure of dmb being mafia here, but cake still said: 1) vivax/dp/iamp changed the lynch from palmar (for no reason as mafia) 2) dp pocketed palmar (and palmar is not town) it does not sit well with me. i just cant wrap my head around it... i dont understand how she is trying to explain this now (she has), if someone can read that to me so i can understand it it would be really nice. You just dont want to understand. 🫨 that's just wrong. im the fucking best town player in this game with JAT even if i am wrong on you and those plebs almost lynched him. Rayn listen to me for a moment please. You’re doing this thing you always do where something doesn’t make logical sense to you and drawing the conclusion it must come from mafia. I think it’s really quite unlikely CC is mafia. Her play feels quite different to when we were mafia. There I struggled to get her to do much other stuff than defend herself. Which is fair enough. Here she has a bunch of crazy opinions and is constantly sticking her neck out. The simple explanation is she is super into the game and is thinking about things in a way you don’t grasp and doesn’t make sense to you. She’s playing like some blend of town Koshi/Vivax. Just consider it for me please I don't want to get too in the weeds here but this is part of my frustration/desire to just lynch CopCake and call it a day. Basically, if we assume the following: town!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. ... and... scum!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. So QED CopCake, even if town, is being more of a hindrance than a beneficial force. However, I will admit I like what her posting brought out of rayn in my absence, so perhaps I am being a bit too harsh here. Then again, it feels more like rayn putting a lot of work to untangle what CopCake is saying, more so than CopCake saying good things, IMO. TL;DR: I can be convinced to lynch vote someone else with a strong case against them, but CopCake's interactions so far make me think this might be a good lynch in general.
Jealous, I am not referring at all to that posting. I am referring to her very unpopular mafia targets and her attitude towards Vivax. And her very pushy presence. These all read as town to me.
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On March 07 2024 03:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:43 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 00:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:39 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
Cop might just be dumb. I felt like dmb knew trfels alignment ignored me multiple times when I said the play was different. Trfel themselves admitted they were playing bad
yes i am more sure of dmb being mafia here, but cake still said: 1) vivax/dp/iamp changed the lynch from palmar (for no reason as mafia) 2) dp pocketed palmar (and palmar is not town) it does not sit well with me. i just cant wrap my head around it... i dont understand how she is trying to explain this now (she has), if someone can read that to me so i can understand it it would be really nice. You just dont want to understand. 🫨 that's just wrong. im the fucking best town player in this game with JAT even if i am wrong on you and those plebs almost lynched him. Rayn listen to me for a moment please. You’re doing this thing you always do where something doesn’t make logical sense to you and drawing the conclusion it must come from mafia. I think it’s really quite unlikely CC is mafia. Her play feels quite different to when we were mafia. There I struggled to get her to do much other stuff than defend herself. Which is fair enough. Here she has a bunch of crazy opinions and is constantly sticking her neck out. The simple explanation is she is super into the game and is thinking about things in a way you don’t grasp and doesn’t make sense to you. She’s playing like some blend of town Koshi/Vivax. Just consider it for me please I don't want to get too in the weeds here but this is part of my frustration/desire to just lynch CopCake and call it a day. Basically, if we assume the following: town!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. ... and... scum!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. So QED CopCake, even if town, is being more of a hindrance than a beneficial force. However, I will admit I like what her posting brought out of rayn in my absence, so perhaps I am being a bit too harsh here. Then again, it feels more like rayn putting a lot of work to untangle what CopCake is saying, more so than CopCake saying good things, IMO. TL;DR: I can be convinced to lynch vote someone else with a strong case against them, but CopCake's interactions so far make me think this might be a good lynch in general. Jealous, I am not referring at all to that posting. I am referring to her very unpopular mafia targets and her attitude towards Vivax. And her very pushy presence. These all read as town to me.
If that's all they are gonna do that could be scum motivated. Like I said earlier reminds me of tunkeng from my famous shot.
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On March 07 2024 03:50 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 03:47 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 03:43 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 00:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:39 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
Cop might just be dumb. I felt like dmb knew trfels alignment ignored me multiple times when I said the play was different. Trfel themselves admitted they were playing bad
yes i am more sure of dmb being mafia here, but cake still said: 1) vivax/dp/iamp changed the lynch from palmar (for no reason as mafia) 2) dp pocketed palmar (and palmar is not town) it does not sit well with me. i just cant wrap my head around it... i dont understand how she is trying to explain this now (she has), if someone can read that to me so i can understand it it would be really nice. You just dont want to understand. 🫨 that's just wrong. im the fucking best town player in this game with JAT even if i am wrong on you and those plebs almost lynched him. Rayn listen to me for a moment please. You’re doing this thing you always do where something doesn’t make logical sense to you and drawing the conclusion it must come from mafia. I think it’s really quite unlikely CC is mafia. Her play feels quite different to when we were mafia. There I struggled to get her to do much other stuff than defend herself. Which is fair enough. Here she has a bunch of crazy opinions and is constantly sticking her neck out. The simple explanation is she is super into the game and is thinking about things in a way you don’t grasp and doesn’t make sense to you. She’s playing like some blend of town Koshi/Vivax. Just consider it for me please I don't want to get too in the weeds here but this is part of my frustration/desire to just lynch CopCake and call it a day. Basically, if we assume the following: town!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. ... and... scum!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. So QED CopCake, even if town, is being more of a hindrance than a beneficial force. However, I will admit I like what her posting brought out of rayn in my absence, so perhaps I am being a bit too harsh here. Then again, it feels more like rayn putting a lot of work to untangle what CopCake is saying, more so than CopCake saying good things, IMO. TL;DR: I can be convinced to lynch vote someone else with a strong case against them, but CopCake's interactions so far make me think this might be a good lynch in general. Jealous, I am not referring at all to that posting. I am referring to her very unpopular mafia targets and her attitude towards Vivax. And her very pushy presence. These all read as town to me. If that's all they are gonna do that could be scum motivated. Like I said earlier reminds me of tunkeng from my famous shot.
There are exceptions to everything
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I don’t disagree in general iamp, if CC did that only for 3 cycles it wouldn’t be great. But as a read for now I’m fine with it
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