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On March 11 2024 04:18 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:16 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:10 CopCake wrote:On March 11 2024 04:00 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 02:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 02:47 iamperfection wrote:On March 11 2024 02:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2024 02:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 02:35 iamperfection wrote:
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well and having any awareness of whats going on when VE is "afk" is suspect as well. If Oats really was the "best" player on the team as has been speculated, VE could have also just deliberately AFK'd to try and create a more attractive counter wagon. That doesn't make the redcheck go away though. So the logic kinda falls apart. I mean it doesn't, however the counterwagon (that I am aware I was apart of) did get pretty strong yesterday. I don't think it's out of the question for scum VE to try and help the case against him to save oats simply by not showing up. But slam has to flip at some point yeah but the assumption I (and I think some of the other pro oats people) was making yesterday is that Oats was framed, so even when slam flips, it's not a 100% death sentence for oats. I know this gets a little deep in WIFOM land but if scum somehow saved oats, since he was the framer maybe they don't kill VE just to make things more confusing. Either way, I do think that my point about VE's play is a possibility yesterday. Well. They only need to protect their rb. Rest is not important anymore. Mafia vig? If there is one. He shot already. How could that had been prevented by night actions? Rayn saving slam?
Yep. I think if they have a vig, that is likely.
But they might just be without vig and with a rolecop
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On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips? I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday. I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats.
I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday.
There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar.
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On March 11 2024 04:19 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba spent a decent amount of posts calling me mafia, Oats town and copcake mafia.
If we disregard those, not that much is left except that list I quoted earlier.
So VE+Rels is mafia.
If Rels is Mafia, which of me/DMB is town?
You're kinda all over the place rn.
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On March 11 2024 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips? I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday. I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats. I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday. There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar.
VE Rels MZ DMB
All other reads are silly.
But if you really want to go there I guess
Koshi
JAT
CC (only cuz sandroba)
Palmar (only cuz rayn)
Idiotic reads would be:
iamp
Jacob
DP
I forgot other people
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Ohyeah. Vivax is 1000% town. (Because the rbs are missing)
And then Jealous is pretty town as well. No reason to scumread him.
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On March 11 2024 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:19 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba spent a decent amount of posts calling me mafia, Oats town and copcake mafia.
If we disregard those, not that much is left except that list I quoted earlier.
So VE+Rels is mafia. If Rels is Mafia, which of me/DMB is town? You're kinda all over the place rn.
I don't see the point in trying to adjust your reads to fit a whole team at this point. There are still 3 mafia. Concentrate on catching them 1 by 1.
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On March 11 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah. Vivax is 1000% town. (Because the rbs are missing)
And then Jealous is pretty town as well. No reason to scumread him.
No Jealous is not town. Ok. He can join me/jat/cc
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On March 11 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips? I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday. I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats. I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday. There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar. VE Rels MZ DMB All other reads are silly. But if you really want to go there I guess Koshi JAT CC (only cuz sandroba) Palmar (only cuz rayn) Idiotic reads would be: iamp Jacob DP I forgot other people
Ok yeah I miscounted how many people you had on your scumlist, that does work. I think you are very wrong about copcake, not to mention myself. I think you're wrong about DMB as well. You are very very heavily leaning on sandroba/rayn for your reads right now.
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On March 11 2024 04:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips? I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday. I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats. I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday. There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar. VE Rels MZ DMB All other reads are silly. But if you really want to go there I guess Koshi JAT CC (only cuz sandroba) Palmar (only cuz rayn) Idiotic reads would be: iamp Jacob DP I forgot other people Ok yeah I miscounted how many people you had on your scumlist, that does work. I think you are very wrong about copcake, not to mention myself. I think you're wrong about DMB as well. You are very very heavily leaning on sandroba/rayn for your reads right now.
Yes. Because they are dead and I am not.
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marv would also always lynched VE over cc.
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On March 11 2024 04:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips? I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday. I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats. I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday. There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar. VE Rels MZ DMB All other reads are silly. But if you really want to go there I guess Koshi JAT CC (only cuz sandroba) Palmar (only cuz rayn) Idiotic reads would be: iamp Jacob DP I forgot other people Ok yeah I miscounted how many people you had on your scumlist, that does work. I think you are very wrong about copcake, not to mention myself. I think you're wrong about DMB as well. You are very very heavily leaning on sandroba/rayn for your reads right now. Yes. Because they are dead and I am not.
You're kinda cherry picking which of their reads that you want to sheep though, Sandroba also had CC in his list of mafia by POE.
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Well ok. Let's say you are town MZ and you have a good read on dmb because you are both living in the side of town I never visit.
We have VE that needs to go.
Literally all stronger dead townies called this guy mafia. Had him in their top 2:
Sandroba
Rayn
Marv
That leaves
JAT
Jealous
Rels
For 2 mafia.
Cuz you protect DMB. I protect CC.
I think Rels and Jaelous is possible.
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On March 11 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote:
marv would also always lynched VE over cc.
I'm not arguing with you over VE, and I'm definitely not going to second guess myself again even though I think CC is also scum. We're essentially talking about where to go after today.
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On March 11 2024 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:31 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips? I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday. I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats. I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday. There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar. VE Rels MZ DMB All other reads are silly. But if you really want to go there I guess Koshi JAT CC (only cuz sandroba) Palmar (only cuz rayn) Idiotic reads would be: iamp Jacob DP I forgot other people Ok yeah I miscounted how many people you had on your scumlist, that does work. I think you are very wrong about copcake, not to mention myself. I think you're wrong about DMB as well. You are very very heavily leaning on sandroba/rayn for your reads right now. Yes. Because they are dead and I am not. You're kinda cherry picking which of their reads that you want to sheep though, Sandroba also had CC in his list of mafia by POE.
Yes. CC is with me and JAT only because sandroba. I said that.
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On March 11 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah. Vivax is 1000% town. (Because the rbs are missing)
And then Jealous is pretty town as well. No reason to scumread him.
I think Darth is also pretty much clear, only way is if he was mafia vig that got roleblocked by vivax night one but considering he didnt move his vote from Oats and used the gunsmith a ability with TTS, that is clear town there.
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On March 11 2024 04:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote:
marv would also always lynched VE over cc. I'm not arguing with you over VE, and I'm definitely not going to second guess myself again even though I think CC is also scum. We're essentially talking about where to go after today.
Let's make a deal on Rels Jealous and jat?
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On March 11 2024 04:37 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah. Vivax is 1000% town. (Because the rbs are missing)
And then Jealous is pretty town as well. No reason to scumread him. I think Darth is also pretty much clear, only way is if he was mafia vig that got roleblocked by vivax night one but considering he didnt move his vote from Oats and used the gunsmith a ability with TTS, that is clear town there.
Ohyeah. Him. Forgot he was in the game. He rarely posts.
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On March 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 04:37 CopCake wrote:On March 11 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah. Vivax is 1000% town. (Because the rbs are missing)
And then Jealous is pretty town as well. No reason to scumread him. I think Darth is also pretty much clear, only way is if he was mafia vig that got roleblocked by vivax night one but considering he didnt move his vote from Oats and used the gunsmith a ability with TTS, that is clear town there. Ohyeah. Him. Forgot he was in the game. He rarely posts.
Whaatt, Darth is the reason the game has so many pages, he is a big boi.
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On March 11 2024 04:36 Koshi wrote:
Well ok. Let's say you are town MZ and you have a good read on dmb because you are both living in the side of town I never visit.
We have VE that needs to go.
Literally all stronger dead townies called this guy mafia. Had him in their top 2:
Sandroba
Rayn
Marv
That leaves
JAT
Jealous
Rels
For 2 mafia.
Cuz you protect DMB. I protect CC.
I think Rels and Jaelous is possible.
Ok, if you are going to protect CC, I will reread the Oats voters with an eye that there have to be more scum in there than I am currently reading.
I would strongly ask that you take a second look at CC.
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