On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
when ever have you cared about this?
always I was just very good at hiding my feelings
Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist.
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote: [quote] did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
On August 30 2022 16:47 Koshi wrote: Quick reasoning so they can defend themselves: MZ: sticking out but not in a helpful way. Creating discussion around problems he created. Like "this joke" is mafia. Yes, I like Tube for pointing out the joke reads were hilarious. Should I like MZ for helping me like Tube? No. I dont think I will. But maybe I should. MZ helped me like Tube. Hmmm
Copcake: there was a post in the beginning I felt didnt fit in the thread. Cant remember what it was. I will revisit later.
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote: [quote]
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Was wondering why you didn't address this post: [quote] But responded to the very next one: [quote] But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.
Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure.
Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting.
So Copcape
I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed"
D:<
If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason.
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote: [quote] did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
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On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote: [quote]
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote: [quote] He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.
Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure.
Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting.
So Copcape
I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed"
D:<
If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason.
Explain why please.
Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp.
And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia? How is the "town copcake"?
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
I agree it's bad reasoning lol. Are you trying to convince me away from it or something?
Does it influence your read on me in any way?
Yes, it does and I am not trying to convince you, I am trying to understand you.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] lol?
did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
How can I have a REAL read of you if you don't answer my question? (Oh look more questions, I am totally mafia)
I think how you reacted to what I think it was an obvious joke was bad, I didn't like it. It was odd, therefore I needed ANSWERS.
Because just defining if you are mafia based on a bad bad post is not enough.
Is this hard to understand or am I not explaining myself?
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote: Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.
On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:
I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him:
On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
Are you saying you are not town?
On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote: [quote]
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
How can I have a REAL read of you if you don't answer my question? (Oh look more questions, I am totally mafia)
I think how you reacted to what I think it was an obvious joke was bad, I didn't like it. It was odd, therefore I needed ANSWERS.
Because just defining if you are mafia based on a bad bad post is not enough.
Is this hard to understand or am I not explaining myself?
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
On August 31 2022 03:31 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmm I am a bit lost. Maybe I should vote Rels for the time being.
I like both the cases on MZ and CC.
But Rels is just disappointing. And not in the shoot him as vigi kind of dissapointing.
##vote: Rels
This is too contradictory I don’t even know what to make of it.
- This is not a question -
I hate this shit man, why does everything you write sound guilty. Have you played before? If so what games, I'm going to have to try and establish a meta read here.
I hated koshi’s post saying “I don’t care” and shut me up when I was trying to have a discussion.
And if you have read the thread it is obvs I have played before.
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Was wondering why you didn't address this post: [quote] But responded to the very next one: [quote] But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
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On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: [quote] What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote: [quote]
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.
Above 3 quotes show 1) HF post 2) rayn pressure on CC 3) CC answer to rain on said pressure.
Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting.
So Copcape
I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed"
D:<
If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason.
Explain why please.
Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp.
And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia? How is the "town copcake"?
No idea. I also don't really care. Defending behind meta is not making you look better.
You were certain about something but you have no basis of it. Called me mafia for asking useless questions. But asking questions is how I get info. You saying "Don't care" makes me think you don't want to discuss so bye.
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
The nested quotes are interesting conversations pushing the game forward. You question is super random. You ask who was in the game? Why?
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote: [quote] did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Was wondering why you didn't address this post: [quote] But responded to the very next one: [quote] But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.
Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?
I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.
How did HFs reaction made sense? rayn mistyped and said something incomprehensible.
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
I assume he meant 'this game has a mafia rb that does actually rb.
But that doesn't matter. The "What?" from HF was warranted because rayn was talking gibberish.
So I still don't know why you asked the player list and didn't just participate with the conversation that was happening right there in the thread. I still don't know why HF reaction was potential scummy (you claimed it would have been scummy if he wasn't in the game) And I still think you invented a reasoning after rayn pressured you about Jock and HF.
Can you explain the bolded? I am still curious.
I said it would be bad if he was in the game. His reaction to the role block thing seemed like he was shading that rayn "might be scum" for that. If he had knowledge of the game, he would have gotten "the joke". and I needed to be sure if he was there since I misremember things sometimes.
But now that I read this, it makes sense his original "what" was for the typo (I didn't consider this) besides not knowing what rayn was talking about (as I did).
On August 31 2022 05:40 CopCake wrote: ##Vote Zhipp
Your case on MZ is: 1) His reaction on Deco list was bad 2) He ignored one of your questions.
Not saying that is not enough. Just want to make sure.
He calls me mafia and doesn't vote me. He has made "strong" cases (deconduo's and mine), even acts as he has done them, yet not a single vote has been placed.
I have a hard time believing someone would take an early list that seriously, like when it is an obvious joke imo. He doesn't even care or play with the idea of a town deconduo and says he has read other people are convinced that he (deconduo) was just playing but he doesn't play with the idea of a "town deconduo".That is very closed minded.
His first post against me was "copcake posts fluffy stuff" but started to make a case or took it more seriously when someone else (Koshi) started to call me out too. Opportunistic. Even his "reasons" are parroting him "she asks too many questions but doesn't come back with reads"
He also points out the "bitterness" I got thanks to Koshi ( "this is not a question" "this a sentence") as a reason why I am mafia. Budding and pocketing Koshi.
Like for shit like "Tube called me out first of the decon joke" is a very very weak argument too.
And where is his read of "fluff jock spamming"?, I guess because people haven't made a read on him he can copy paste it and make a case.
I wanted to giving him the benefit of the doubt of "too bad to be mafia" earlier but before I went to bed I made up my mind when I was confronting him and he decided to ignore my post.
Now that I have compared his posts with the time of the thread sentiment, makes sense he was mimicking his case on me.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] lol?
did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
Btw, whenever you are back Ziphh. Did you make something out of reading my past games?
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.
Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote: So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?
Deconduo's first post. I'm calling it now. If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too. Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez. Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.
Serious question to decon:
Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously? Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek. If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.
This it it right for dec?
Pretty much. There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them. So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.
I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.
He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.
That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.
Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.
On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote: Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so
##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled
All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does. Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.
On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote: Rels is alive, that's good.
##: Unvote
The whole thing looks mutually weird.
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I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?
Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on
Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off
Not really much more to it
Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us. So far you haven't done any of this.
A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.
Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?
Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.
Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote: So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?
Deconduo's first post. I'm calling it now. If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too. Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez. Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.
Serious question to decon:
Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously? Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek. If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.
This it it right for dec?
Pretty much. There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them. So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.
I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.
He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.
That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.
Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.
On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote: Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so
##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled
All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does. Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.
On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote: Rels is alive, that's good.
##: Unvote
The whole thing looks mutually weird.
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I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?
Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on
Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off
Not really much more to it
Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us. So far you haven't done any of this.
A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.
Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?
Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.
This is top tier town.
I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me
The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia. If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.
Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote: [quote] This it it right for dec?
Pretty much. There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them. So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.
I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.
He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.
That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.
Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.
On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote: Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so
##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled
All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does. Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.
On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote: Rels is alive, that's good.
##: Unvote
The whole thing looks mutually weird.
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I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?
Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on
Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off
Not really much more to it
Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us. So far you haven't done any of this.
A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.
Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?
Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.
This is top tier town.
I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me
The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia. If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.
'Here is a case against you - but no no you can't respond to all the faults in it. Go hunt scum'
It's protecting himself against any criticism against holes in the case, and either: - I don't find scum and he pushes a lynch while sitting back happy - I find scum - he takes credit for 'forcing me to go hunt'
Very convenient.
I think you are wrong there. Any respectable town wouldn't take credit for something like that.
Regardless if he "forces you" or not, as town we need to look for the scum. We share a same goal.
Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.
I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.
In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"
Fuck I was reading deconduo's filter, there's only one "bad" post in which he said he doesn't want to lynch anyone but other than that, I don't think he has done something that manipulative/mafia-esque.
On September 01 2022 02:28 CopCake wrote: Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.
I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.
In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"
Tinfoiling atm.
TMI that I'm town possibly
It work both ways, there was a wagon... why would you change the direction?
And even if you were mafia and rels was your partner, it doesn't make sense to stage a fight when there was little time.
On September 01 2022 02:28 CopCake wrote: Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.
I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.
In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"
Tinfoiling atm.
TMI that I'm town possibly
It work both ways, there was a wagon... why would you change the direction?
And even if you were mafia and rels was your partner, it doesn't make sense to stage a fight when there was little time.
What wagon did who change direction on?
I think it makes sense to stage a fight, it's a good strategy and it was quite a while before deadline. Especially since I didn't even end up voting rels. Isn't that a bit weird to you?
On September 01 2022 02:59 CopCake wrote: Fuck I was reading deconduo's filter, there's only one "bad" post in which he said he doesn't want to lynch anyone but other than that, I don't think he has done something that manipulative/mafia-esque.
Why didn't you try harder to get me lynched? I've been your number one suspect the whole game, you were around prior to the deadline, you didn't want to lynch rels, yet you didn't really do much to try and push my lynch, even though I was very close to dying and there were clearly a lot of people on the fence.
I made a case, got ignored. I think only jock read it and only because I mentioned it.
Maybe vivax did too because he was that was the advantage of being a trash can.
I am on my phone but first you wanted to lynch me, then slam, then up against hf then vivax, then dandel?????
Yes, it is true that I think it was ballsy, BALLSY to go against HF close to end of the day but there is this thing in my head that is bothering me, what if you are mafia with MZ and MZ is like powerful mafia and you are normal mafia? And you decided to sacrifice for the sake of the team. The wagon was already on you.
And yes MZ is my #1 lynch, but the wagon is also on you and if you flip red MZ is pretty much mafia.
On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now?
Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it.
The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently.
The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels.
Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF?
Actually this is a stupid question by me.
Vivax and Cake, why are you / were you originally voting for Rels at the start of the day?
Because people are more willing to lynch rels than MZ. I made a case and suddenly everyone ignored it except maybe jock and vivax and it is absolutly very frustating to have to explain this several times.
I think both of them are mafia and like I said before, people seem to not want to lynch MZ.
And it is like the beggining of the day also, I dont understand why people take this like toooooooo seriously when you can change your vote when something happens.
And it is like the beggining of the day also, I dont understand why people take this like toooooooo seriously when you can change your vote when something happens.
OK I'm here now... I am wondering what's the point in putting a vote down if it doesn't matter? Surely when you vote it is signalling your intention to lynch a person, regardless of when it happens during a vote cycle. Unless you had some other reason for voting. Therefore it gives us as much information as a vote near the end of the day.
I'm not trying to answer for rayn, just my own opinion. We have to go off what we can see in the thread.
He made it sound like if it was already written on stone and it is not.
I can easily vote MZ but like I said, people don't listen.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
Here, he accuses Jock, Decon and me of not contributing, just fluffposting. Notice that MZ post is #245, his very first post IN GAME. I can understand that he thinks I am fluff posting, but post #106 is not that bad from Detective Jock, neither
#176 is even better but I am too lazy to code and quote all of jock's post.
I can continue to name Jock's post before MZ arrived that were basically pretty townie ~ or showed interested in solving the game a la day 1 would.
In my opinion he just remembered that Jock only posted music videos, deconduo was "joking" and me was being myself. Easy people to "misslynch" or put pressure on.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] lol?
did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
Super case on me but l do not remember him voting me.
Bla bla bla read my filters and didn't came up with something out of them. Pretending to care of Meta.
On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote: Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way ##Vote: Rels it's real now
This makes me feel even more comfortable about not lynching Rels
Then out of nowhere this????? Since when did he start to suspect Dandelion?
Like all was decon and me, then maybe vivax and he didnt trust dandelion because ????????
On September 01 2022 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I also need to look at Dandel, I wanna compare him and Vivax because in my head right now they're playing fairly similarly.
He mentioned something here but was later.
He didn't want to lynch rels because same view as him. He didn't want to lynch slam because ???? He wanted to lynch vivax because "terrible" Dandel îs similar to vivax.
On September 01 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: \Day One VoteCount
On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer.
Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that?
Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game.
You flightcrew? I fly the L100
I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D
I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least).
On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer.
Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that?
Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game.
You flightcrew? I fly the L100
I am jealous. When i went to mandatory army service i applied for both air force and navy but because my last name is so low on the list alphabetically i didn't even get a response from either. So instead i did something i can't speak of. :D
I mean i 100% fit all physicals, vision, shit like that for either (at the time at least).
So are you just going to read my case?
I have read it but it's not my job to respond it. It's MZ's job.
How are we going to solve the game if only the people I acuse need to answer?
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.
So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.
But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?
Someone?
Nope.
And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.
At least reading slam is such a pleasure.
If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.
You and Slam are town.
Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.
Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch. But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.
C’mon and join the Rels Express There are tacos, austrian beer and 0% stress. Forget all your regrets You don’t have to impress Enjoy love and games with chez
On September 05 2022 01:55 Rels wrote: In my mind there is no world where at least one of Dandel and cake are not mafia. Probably both As always I don't have time to do anything during daytime, leaving the house soon Will take the time tonight to reread them and decide who's the best vote
On September 05 2022 01:55 Rels wrote: In my mind there is no world where at least one of Dandel and cake are not mafia. Probably both As always I don't have time to do anything during daytime, leaving the house soon Will take the time tonight to reread them and decide who's the best vote
On September 02 2022 21:08 Jockmcplop wrote: I guess I'm not really a scumread of rels any more. Looks weird though. Its mostly the way rels vote on you 'to get you playing' instantly disappears the moment you arrive. Its just... is it that shallow a vote?
Jokes aside, Jock since the beginning has been trying to solve the game, even with his "spamming" questions, I know that because I tend to solve things like that plus with reactions / tone reading. I am pretty sure I have said before that I think that Jock is town.
On September 05 2022 22:15 CopCake wrote: Jokes aside, Jock since the beginning has been trying to solve the game, even with his "spamming" questions, I know that because I tend to solve things like that plus with reactions / tone reading. I am pretty sure I have said before that I think that Jock is town.
So who's all scum besides from me and rels in your mind?
Because I'm having a hard time seeing how someone who has been afk for the last 72 hours is trying to solve the game.
Do you think Town can give the luxury to kill someone inactive right now?
What would we win?
It is actually very scummy to go and chew someone who can't defend himself.
He is not coasting to survive, as you see, he didn't vote last day.
And I said "in the beginning" like the time he has been active he was very town.
So far I think is you/rels/hf or you/rels/matt.
Btw, live in a world in which I am town, who are the mafia?
On September 05 2022 22:15 CopCake wrote: Jokes aside, Jock since the beginning has been trying to solve the game, even with his "spamming" questions, I know that because I tend to solve things like that plus with reactions / tone reading. I am pretty sure I have said before that I think that Jock is town.
So who's all scum besides from me and rels in your mind?
Because I'm having a hard time seeing how someone who has been afk for the last 72 hours is trying to solve the game.
Do you think Town can give the luxury to kill someone inactive right now?
What would we win?
It is actually very scummy to go and chew someone who can't defend himself.
He is not coasting to survive, as you see, he didn't vote last day.
And I said "in the beginning" like the time he has been active he was very town.
So far I think is you/rels/hf or you/rels/matt.
Btw, live in a world in which I am town, who are the mafia?
Everything I do in your mind is scummy. I have seen scum fuck off just as much as I've seen town fuck off. Some people hate playing it.
Why is HF scum now?
In a world where you're town, it's rels/jock slam or chez.
The way he just came and say “copcake is mafia for this post only” Gave me bad vibes.
HF is a very, VERY good scum, there was a game where he played me and pocketed me and poor GB got misslynched. I got the same sensation.
On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target? MZ?
I'm not sure I understand your question.
I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF.
Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong.
Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works.
Have you considered that mafia might have also killed people they dont think would be jailkeepered/doc’ed?
Not everything is for “the reads” but to fool blue roles.
That is why I have avoided to talk about them the whole game.
On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D
Check the voting thread.
@copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town.
There is only one real world and that world says I am town.
Why Slam and not someone else? o_O
Why not Jock as you have questioned?
Slam bc of the D1 shenanigans with the votes. And I say that knowing full well rels flipping scum makes me look terrible too.
But it's a total toss up, it could be slam/jock slam/chez (although based on how they interact in the thread I don't think that's likely). Jock/HF is possible too.
On September 06 2022 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also adding one of cake or rels but i dont know which one i think cake atm, it also might be a dead person i add it looks like ^_^
On September 06 2022 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also adding one of cake or rels but i dont know which one i think cake atm, it also might be a dead person i add it looks like ^_^
On September 06 2022 03:38 Vivax wrote: I'm gonna go get drunk and attempt some voodoo maybe But jeez, how many fucking lies do I have to deal with in these games
On September 06 2022 04:09 Holyflare wrote: I would vote rels today tbh. I think he just jumps on whatever comes up and perpetuates rhetoric. Coincidentally just happens to be cop after I voted her.
He's not playing constructively to build townies up.
On September 05 2022 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean, does it look like there are assumed townies who prefer Rels over Tube over Matt, in that case it would be beneficial for mafia to try to change the lynch from Rels/Tube (tied i think) to Mattchew to get the people ultimately end up on Tube.
I would agree with Mattchew that people misinterpreted my post.
which post?
No fucking clue
Also holyflare has been my top town and im in his fucking pocket and idk man his posting just feels so townie and im probably bad but i gotta go with it.
Chez doesnt have to so shit this game yet still has participated in his chez way so hes probably town
Maybe HF is just town if he... is town? :D I don't get this about Chez, he has gotten more participating since the beginning, but it is not too unlike he participates as mafia either, in his own way. Basically he always participates in his own way regardless of alignment.
This is probably fair, and a portion of my read is certainly how i like when chez is in the game because he brings a unique style and substance. I could be getting lured into a chez mafia win but i def dont think hes the lynch today atleast
I agree, today is most likely between Rels and Cake. I like HF, you and surprisingly Vivax.
Slam's prolly mafia too, regardless of Rels / Cake flip.
I don't think Rels and Cake are mafia together, because Cake has been forgetting she could also try to lynch MZ instead of Rels for like every day....
MZ... I dont know early on i though he was town but now i don't really know any more. Fading into surviving if he is mafia tbh.
Jock is just afk, which is just annoying. Can't tell, i though he was town when he was posting.
Chezinu is a wildcard, could see him being mafia, probably not with Cake because he voted for her D1.
If i had to guess right now i would say Rels, Slam, MZ/Jock.
If I am town and Rels is mafia MZ is probably town
On September 07 2022 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Lynch the unCCd parity that wasn't ever up for a wagon tomorrow and is likely to die tonight? Have you thought that one through? :D
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote: You think we're in a game with no blues? :D
If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote: You think we're in a game with no blues? :D
If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?
And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.
Are you trying to fish?
I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.
Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.
There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.
I have considered that but you have been calling me mafia since forever so what gives?
If, for some reason, I am the unaware miller and the result came as "copcake and rels are the same" you wouldn't even consider I am the unaware miller, you would go straight to my jugular and lynch me.
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote: You think we're in a game with no blues? :D
If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?
And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.
Are you trying to fish?
I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.
Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.
There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.
The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.
What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off
I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.
I never confirmed you were blocked tho or where did I say that?
On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote: Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"
Like I never confirmed anything there, I am just playing the scenario and your contradictions.
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote: You think we're in a game with no blues? :D
If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?
And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.
Are you trying to fish?
I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.
Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.
There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.
The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.
What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off
I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.
I never confirmed you were blocked tho or where did I say that?
Reading between the lines is enough.
You wouldn't go after me when you have been calling me mafia forever?????
And do you want me to believe that you are a cop when you wanted to quit the game?
On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote: Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"
Like I never confirmed anything there, I am just playing the scenario and your contradictions.
On September 07 2022 03:33 Holyflare wrote: Copcake and rels same.
Do with that information as you see fit. Gg.
You didnt even want to vote for rels, how does that even make sense? Lol
I did vote for Rels. I called him mafia and voted him. As mafia, you see this information and your statement isn't "Wow, maybe I'm an unaware miller!" or "I don't believe you" it's simply that I didn't even want to vote for Rels? Why does this make sense from a townie perspective of someone who is just being outed as red with no further explanation?
On September 07 2022 04:24 CopCake wrote: This gives vibes of “I am the cop you idiot”.
We lynch hin tomorrow.
I say that I'm roleblocked. Only mafia know whether that is true or not.As a townie there's no reason not to believe I was roleblocked. I wasn't up for contention of being a wagon, I wasn't under the spotlight, there wasn't really any threat in the game to do this. Being roleblocked was actually clearing for CopCake and should make a hell of a lot more sense as town who is being wrongly accused of being mafia.
You know why this reaction is the way it is? Because mafia didn't actually roleblock me, Cop knows that and knows I'm town. The only other explanation that makes sense for me to lie in this scenario is the exact one she presents "I'm a cop you idiot vibes", where I'm a townie faking that I'm cop.
On September 07 2022 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Lynch the unCCd parity that wasn't ever up for a wagon tomorrow and is likely to die tonight? Have you thought that one through? :D
How can mafia kill themselves?
She still believes I'm simply mafia that did a 0-1% beneficial play because she's simply in a world where she has to view my play as mafia indicative instead of reevaluating it.
On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote: Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"
There is no out here for me to simply be town. She has shut down every avenue and not evaluated this with a head that's looking to solve. It's simply all just mafia scenarios and narratives because it's what she has to do.
1.- But I don't believe you? And you were one of the last to vote for rels, you voted me first, your misslynch <3 and like I said, you wanted to quit the game.
2.- I don't know if you were role blocked or not, I never said that, I dare you to quote me where I did. I play scenarios where I can debunk your "I am the cop" because as town it is my job. You know I am VERY good with night actions, debunking you makes me mafia? How lovely.
3.- Reevaluate what? I think the mafia team is rels, you, mz so doubting you once again is a mafia tell? Yeah, yeah because being town apparently is to believe all the claims as they go.
4.- "I am the cop you idiot vibes" is because I was expecting someone else to CC you and see a shiftiest.
5.- Like I said, I think you are mafia so what should I do? Do I REALLY need to believe EVERYTHING you say to be town? Haha.
On September 08 2022 00:32 CopCake wrote: And your super duper "cool" move is extremely flawed. What happens if town vigilante vigs me? if there is one?
Did you consider there I could be an unaware miller if you had a cop check that came like that?
No, it is actually problematic and I could die. You know, the less people the better for mafia.
But of course, I am the one who is "closed minded" and didn't consider scenarios.
If they vig you and you're an unaware miller than I confirm myself as town. Slim chance that scenario plays out anyway.
Also why I retracted to a rb into announcing it finally at the end of night.
On September 08 2022 03:13 Alakaslam wrote: I'm gonna suspect Mafia wants to No Kill (otherwise congrats wp doc) which makes me want to be even more pro-town and no lynch until we get even more info.
On September 08 2022 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I think Cop's preference for voting Rels over MZ at most times in the game when MZ was her preferred wagon and I can't really remember Cop singling out why Rels over most people is kinda telling.
I also think she semi slipped d1 in the Rels/me fight parroting Rels' argument of "as mafia Rels would never go aggro against me knowing I'd fight back". It says to me that she didn't think of:
1) Worlds where Rels and I were mafia together (and even now she's left that out of her pushes on me)
2) Worlds where I'm mafia and Rels was town (because TMI)
3) Worlds where Rels and I were both town.
She simply picked the correct explanation that I was town and defended Rels with his own bs argument.
What?
I called you mafia the moment you suddenly said that I was mafia for the tube stock flip :D It looked like you were preparing the ground to have me as a misslynch
And the reason I always voted rels first is because people were voting for him FIRST and no one wanted to take my MZ read seriously.
I am so frustrated because I am vanilla town and I literally can't understand why the fuck HF is confirmed town NOW when he has claimed two roles, for the "moves", putting me in danger in case there is a town vig, now that he is a "VET" so he doesn't have a check, ughhhh
THIS IS SO BULLSHIT
TOWN IS GOING TO LOSE because you listen to a vocal person and do not follow the FACTS of the game.
On September 08 2022 03:37 Holyflare wrote: Chezinu/Slam/Cop needs to be looked into imo. Gross but probably contains 2.
Also btw. Mattchew was the most obvious blue in the game and he basically outed himself last night. If I can pick that up as town then I sure as hell would have as mafia lol.
I am blue/red colorblind and see the same thing when I see either (in forum mafia)
On September 08 2022 03:37 Holyflare wrote: Chezinu/Slam/Cop needs to be looked into imo. Gross but probably contains 2.
Also btw. Mattchew was the most obvious blue in the game and he basically outed himself last night. If I can pick that up as town then I sure as hell would have as mafia lol.
I am blue/red colorblind and see the same thing when I see either (in forum mafia)
are you blue or red?
Neither I keep saying I am green
So you can’t see the american flag properly?
Only with reference to Forum mafia. So AFAIK there are no white roles so there can be no such flag...
On September 07 2022 03:46 Vivax wrote: HF climbs the truth ladder. Redeemed. If anyone ever makes a movie about my mafia insanity I insist on an actor I know from old school days, he‘ll appreciate a few old pics I got
Jokes I got rbd
Less than 20 minutes between rescinding it. The only people to post in between were you, Chezinu and Vivax. Why is that so anti town that it threatened a vig to shoot you?
Because it is anti town, and saying the same thing doesnt mean we “coreographed” something lol, you have seen me as scum I think? Or not?
Slam, Vivax both of you have seen me as scum recently, slam as a host and Vivax as a player.
On September 08 2022 07:56 Holyflare wrote: Roles people would have to be as dumb as bricks to out themselves.
Although Mattchew did kinda out himself at night at least :D
But like people have said to you repeatedly, I do that shit as town ALL THE TIME. It's my MO, my bread and butter. So, why this time is it anti town and mafia and not just anti town and me being town?
And why cant you assume I am a miller of there is a confirmed cop?
But no I am mafia who coreographed shit with rels and repeated the same thing.
The deadline is Tuesday, Sep 06 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in [/QUOTE]
Last person to vote Rels.
If you truly wanted, you could have been more vocal and could have lynched me the day before ^^ but people were already going for rels so you have no option but leave your scum partner to die.
Same on day 1. Even Slam said it, “he controlled the lynch”, why didnt HF stepped in?
On September 09 2022 00:25 Vivax wrote: TL is such a good place for forum mafia though. The interface is purist, you don‘t have all the extra features, fancy avatars that secretly manipulate you. All text and no bullshit.
I get the appeal of complexity in sites but I guess I like simple things. Especially when the game of mafia isn‘t really about visuals, unless you try to cover up that the writing is meh with extra features.
It‘s cool when you manage to pull off stuff like conjuring a chessboard or interactive games but not seen many who bother to pull that off.
/ramble end
I used to post a lot of gifs here, but somewhat I just got tired of them? Am I that old?
And the community here is pretty cool, I know that with FACTS.
EPT
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