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On January 11 2021 00:07 ghostofconversion wrote: sry i used the 5 bucks and bought an extra large slurpee that i proceeded to drop on the floor
ergo it is your fault i have experienced grief so we are no longer friends FINE THEN
##Curse: ghostofconversion
'May all your steel soul runs fail at Radiance.'
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Lol No, not giving up my qt partners Mr fisherman, that's up to them.
And your reasoning above... Is that supposed to make me scum? Laughable.
Why do I have to vote Hapa to believe any of what I said? Just because you want me to because it fits your view of what will go down doesn't mean it fits mine, and doesn't make me scummy at all. Jat is the only person on my wagon who makes even an inkling of sense and its aggravating me Stop making me post my wife is gonna get mad lol
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On January 11 2021 00:29 Holyflare wrote:GB - refused to join wave wagon, cited bs reasons for "oh town can totally do that" without even knowing anything about what wave said Tictock - refused to join wave wagon, cited that he felt the same as wave for wanting to see what Dandel's thing did and not really wanting to follow through with it: Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote:On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote: What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.
Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care? Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town??? Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons. Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position. I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia? I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative. I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that. Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things. Obi - possible worst offender of them all: Show nested quote +On January 09 2021 08:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think conversion is me. I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was.
I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think. Wants to default to a 3P wagon or no lynch instead of actively searching to call anyone mafia, thinks that doing nothing will revert the game back to how it was. Seemingly reeks of TMI about Dandel's alignment and then even displays it: Show nested quote +On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are people so convinced dandel is scum? I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it. Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it?
GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you. He even interjects between myself/GB saying he doesn't understand the argument because "the situation resolves itself" which it doesn't because my argument is that Wave is probably mafia from the night before, which Obi even acknowledges here: Show nested quote +On January 10 2021 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0? That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure. Obi seems to know that Conversion's nukes are fake which imo means that he knows: 1) Yamato is town 2) Conversion is also town I think it's a bit of a stretch to go from seeing a nuke in the thread and assuming it's fake UNLESS you know the alignment of both of those players and use that logic to leap to "why would a townie nuke another townie pointlessly like that unless it's fake" Are you legit calling everyone who didn't vote for me scum? Go home.
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That's garbage, and this point I won't concede. Not playing the way you want is not the same thing as ruining the game for others and I'm annoyed that you would suggest that especially given that I backed off of you before at your request.
Go ahead and eliminate me.
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On January 11 2021 00:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2021 00:33 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 11 2021 00:29 Holyflare wrote:GB - refused to join wave wagon, cited bs reasons for "oh town can totally do that" without even knowing anything about what wave said Tictock - refused to join wave wagon, cited that he felt the same as wave for wanting to see what Dandel's thing did and not really wanting to follow through with it: On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote:On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote: What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.
Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care? Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town??? Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons. Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position. I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia? I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative. I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that. Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things. Obi - possible worst offender of them all: On January 09 2021 08:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think conversion is me. I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was.
I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think. Wants to default to a 3P wagon or no lynch instead of actively searching to call anyone mafia, thinks that doing nothing will revert the game back to how it was. Seemingly reeks of TMI about Dandel's alignment and then even displays it: On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are people so convinced dandel is scum? I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it. On January 10 2021 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it?
GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you. He even interjects between myself/GB saying he doesn't understand the argument because "the situation resolves itself" which it doesn't because my argument is that Wave is probably mafia from the night before, which Obi even acknowledges here: On January 10 2021 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0? That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure. Obi seems to know that Conversion's nukes are fake which imo means that he knows: 1) Yamato is town 2) Conversion is also town I think it's a bit of a stretch to go from seeing a nuke in the thread and assuming it's fake UNLESS you know the alignment of both of those players and use that logic to leap to "why would a townie nuke another townie pointlessly like that unless it's fake" Are you legit calling everyone who didn't vote for me scum? Go home. If you can read this wall of text and make it somehow all about you rather than the points I actually raised then you have some kind of ego problem. Tictock - Logic leap Obi - Logic leap, assuming of alignments to make those leaps and the typical defend the anti town Dandel by knowing his alignment GB - completely different from normal GB, actively voting for a 3P that would leave the game if his wincon is fulfilled AND was getting nuked and doesn't put the slightest bit of effort into finding actual mafia What about those points are about you? YOUR LITERAL FIRST POINTS ABOUT GB AND TICKYOCK ARE REFUSED TO JOIN WAVE WGON
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You are the worst. I love you but, just the worst. Lynch me or don't. I've found scum and was happy again with this game until you came back
Putting down my phone
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Gotta do lunch for kids and stuff before putting youngest for nap. I will post my reasoning for obi and then you guys can do what you will; I'm going to nap myself and won't be around for lynch
I would really have liked tictocks input specifically on obi but without that I'll still post what I can.
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He is and I think he scum slipped in there. Post coming soon.
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SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.
Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.
At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'
Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.
I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.
There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,
I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol
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I'm fairly sure this is where I make my stand today so like I said, you guys can feel free to do what you'd like, I won't be around to stop you or even attempt to. It would probably annoy me too much anyway.
I'm not sure I'm right but it feels good and I'm happy with it.
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As for others, yams town, I hope jat/HF are town because it could still go either way. Town is certainly more likely at this point.
I'd look toward the people who just haven't done much tbh here, Shocckey, Slam, GB, it's all more or less a crapshoot. I agree that the wagon on me looks good because none of them have jumped on but I truly don['t think that's indicative here---partially because I know otherwise but partially because none of them have had to do much of anything. They haven't been forced to throw a vote or grilled in any way, so they haven't had to commit, which is I think more damning than bandwagoning at this point.
Oh also Conversion town. I hope
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On January 11 2021 02:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I legitimately hate it when people just go and claim my stuff without my consent. If this gamestate is real I am going to flip your omelette. Part of why I did this is because of what HF said earlier----this prevents the gamestate from being real because in effect it absolutely destroys the game.
How can you ask a whole bunch of people to switch alignments midgame if you don't even know if you've truly switched?!
That breaks the game completely when something like this happens, and I don't think it's on us to keep it secret when we don['t have perfect information like scum normally do. It's just not fair.
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On January 11 2021 02:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.
Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.
At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'
Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.
I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.
There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,
I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol Why would anyone ever assume all people who dandel made scum had to have been town earlier? Sure that doesn't have to be the conclusion, but why specifically single me out there? If I scumclaim and am scum n0, why does that make a difference if he believes the new state to be real? And if he doesn't believe ti to be real, isn't it a good thing if he's town?
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On January 11 2021 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone? Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.- Today is very much real. You just have to ignore dandels shennanigans. What is so complicated about this? Oh yes that's another problem. In the qt he said this a bunch as well, that nothing matters and we should NL. I don't think there's any reason to ignore alignment information we have thu sfar
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That's not obvious to me at all, especially since he's been spouting that
On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone? Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.-
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Also blitz let me be clear, I hate it too when stuff gets outed like that. And I'm sorry, it does ruin the fun a lil. I'm only doing it cause I think you're scum
Ilu tho
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I should probably read HFs case on obi for real though
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Skimming over it, it feels like a lot of his case can be explained away by waffly behaviour and disorganized thinking, but I suppose some of mine can as well? I don't think he's wrong but I don't find it more compelling necessarily than anything I've said thus far.
Whether that's good or bad is?
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Ok so.... We have KP? Dandel threatened to close our mason QT but I don't see why he can do that, theres nothing in the role PM about it
Do we keep that KP? If so tictock and Obi we have some work to do Maybe not obi though lol
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I wanna shoot somebodyyy
Something very weird happened here though. Dandel is the one who created our QT and called it the mafia QT. Surely it's Gb who made it though no? Or Dandel corrupted it somehow? We were definitely not told any of the info in GBs role pm
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