[M][T] Personality Mafia: Mini Edition - Page 5

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 15 2021 13:19 GMT

#2681

On January 15 2021 22:16 ghostofconversion wrote:
why I bothered to vote is beyond me but at this point I believe it's obi/jat/dandel

I'm also being removed in 7 hours AMA

Disagree on Dandel, but one at a time.
Still think ur nuke is a dud.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 15 2021 13:23 GMT

#2684

On January 15 2021 22:16 justanothertownie wrote:

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Why would I go all in like that. If I was scum then mafia would be in an awesome position. I wouldn't compromise it like that.

Not to mention that I am just trying to figure out which one of you we should lynch like all townies should. Mindlessly accepting you as 3P is certainly not the right play.

Fair enough but considering the timing of my claim and that for you it seemed legit earlier, why does it flip to the opposite/do you start doubting it when it‘s Obi pn the table?

If I don‘t use my ability you‘ could have said my claim was a lie and after I did you accuse me of it.

Damned if I do damned if I don‘t and you pick whatever suits you at the moment?

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 15 2021 13:28 GMT

#2687

On January 15 2021 22:22 ghostofconversion wrote:

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what are your team guesses then?

I'm assuming you think Slam's claims are fake

Yeah that‘s it. Just slam instead of Dandel. The way he spotted Obis post was almost too touche and his tone is generally grumpy imo.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 15 2021 13:56 GMT

#2695

On January 15 2021 22:53 justanothertownie wrote:

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Could of course also be dandel/tt/Eversince.

You just said before that you have a PoE.
Now you‘re conjuring up all sorts of millkshakes.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 15 2021 23:11 GMT

#2847

If Obi's town here he'd be trying way too hard for someone who should know that his faction loses no matter who gets lynched today.

Scum is all in.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 01:32 GMT

#2864

It's simple really. It's a matter of mindset (Obis) to figure out he's scum. If you are town and have a sufficient amount of brains it should be obvious that I am what I claim to be. I really went into this game starting N0 knowing that with my role my best play is to admit I'm 3p. I didn't sneak around that at all and first thing I did is promise I'd claim.

Let's say you're Obi. If you're town, my alignment should be relevant to you before it gets this far. You know that if you get dueled, town loses no matter what, if conversion dies.

Before I dueled him, he should have done everything in his power to sway me, knowing that if he couldn't convince me, town would lose. And after the duel, he should know that town lost.

Instead he outed himself because he did what scum does in this situation: He needs to convince town that I'm not third party, and start playing for real. From a mindset where he's town and I'm third party, which I believe he claimed to have (or at least behaved accordingly because I don't remember him gunning for me ever previously) before I became a threat to him, he should be somewhat...mad? I just doomed town to a loss after all.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 01:36 GMT

#2865

There's also this Dandel confirmed mafia idea floating around which I can't get my head behind at all. Everyone's acting as if Slams claim is 100 % legit and I don't know how that idea planted itself into your minds. If you look at Dandel's behaviour, I don't think he comes across as scummy and legit had fun with the game and wrote so much to a point where it's dangerous for scum to do.

Dandel just isn't conscientious at all about his own play so it's just too hard for me to picture him being mafia here.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 02:20 GMT

#2870

My role is selfish, I can't just stay alive and win with the town. I also can't win if town loses now, and town can't win either way if Obi is town and I'm 3p.

So if the town wants to self-own when Obi is scum, vote me. If mafia wants to troll, fuck off. I've devoted enough attention to this phase. If Obi is town, then gg? But then he shouldn't give a shit either, but he does.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 02:24 GMT

#2871

On January 16 2021 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There are so many holes in that logic that I can't even.
I wanted you day 1 and mostly left you alone because other people said you were a bad lynch.
I started questioning your existence again on day 3 because shockeyy got lynched and obviously he wasn't mafia, so I needed to rethink things.
I don't see anywhere you've even pointed out where any of this was unnatural other than the fact that I was less concerned about a 3p rather than other people I legitimately thought were mafia.
There is simply no way you make a play this blatantly antitown as 3p so you are pretty much confirmed mafia.

And that's not even getting into your dandel read, which is ignoring the fact that he lied about KP and has proceeded to do absolutely nothing even after being red checked which you have completely written off for no discernable reason. "He isn't conscientious" is such nonsense. What, he isn't trying to post well on purpose?

Don't make me laugh.

On January 11 2021 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@HF - I realized conversion was roleplaying as me, and I don't think anyone would yolo nuke with a real nuke for a nonexistent reason so really the only conclusion to draw was that it was fake.

I also think lynching Vivax is fine if you think the current gamestate isn't real.

I also don't really have a read on dandel either way and I'm not sure why you think otherwise? Like the case on him is objectively bad (that his role makes him mafia) but he really hasn't done anything at all and I'm not sure why that warrants a vote or how people are drawing more conclusions based on that.

I also feel like you should have responded to my post about wave being mafia from n0 before using it as a point simply because I don't feel like your reasoning regarding that has been fleshed out enough, if at all? Even if you think he was, I don't agree with it and would like reasoning as to why.

As for yamato, I actually think he's dropping towards the null category at this point but with the game being the way it is currently, I'm not really sure that even matters.

Honestly I think I mapped out my play today pretty accurately and stand by it. It's not a great strategy per se, but I feel like most of the important stuff happened n0 and most of today is going to be a wash thanks to dandel, and scumhunting based on a few lines early is going to be nigh impossible.

On January 11 2021 02:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I actually just realized I missed a vivax post and thought he claimed 3p this cycle, and claimed scum last cycle.
So ignore my points on him that was just a mistake on my end.

This guy can't even keep his story straight because he goes back in his own filter but only reads the first post to say he wanted to lynch me then forgets to read the next post.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 02:46 GMT

#2876

Before I dueled him, Slam said he retracted his TR on him, Wave was touting how bad his posts were, JAT was nowhere to be seen.

Of those, Slam then ended up being on me, which somehow doesn't bother anyone.

So I'm really pissed that this is harder than it should be.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 02:48 GMT

#2877

Because I might as well have done nothing, now I have to do shit because some of you are assholes.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 02:52 GMT

#2878

Namely those that jebait me into using my duel or they don't believe my claim, then when I do it they start pestering me about my alignment.

Big assholes and horrible townies or mafia. Not to be named, go figure them out by yourselves.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 04:18 GMT

#2887

On January 16 2021 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I mean I'm still on that mountain-bound plane witcha, buddeh

Well played if you're scum because your posts were one of the reasons I was tempted into dueling Obi of all people. Then also Slam who made me think he was bussing him pointing out his post in the post about the reactions to Dandel.

It's very frustrating when peeps don't realize I can't be playing this whole third party story ever and very telling some suggest that when I'm literally proving I wasn't lying.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 04:21 GMT

#2888

On January 16 2021 13:14 Alakaslam wrote:

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You’re the asshole here. You fucked up a twice checked lynch- last one was fucked up by

I cant remember. Townies.

It doesn't matter now. But you summing up Dandel has KP + Dandel doesn't win with town wasn't convincing especially since you didn't fully explain how your role works. And now I'm the asshole and not the mafia?

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 04:58 GMT

#2891

On January 16 2021 13:43 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I mean I also told you to wait until we had a consensus, which is also just the play that makes the most sense. I had obi as scum but my vote was on dandel.

If we lose here it's fine but you really can't blame other people for your subpar role use

You're saying that as if you knew the outcome.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 06:32 GMT

#2899

Ok Slam I'm convinced now. At least that makes me feel less bad about lashing out since it was sort of productive.

The only question remaining is if the game is over because Obi is town or not. If he isn't, you guys can just win from this day alone. After this lynch I'd need two lynches, then I win and am removed from the game.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 08:28 GMT

#2916

On January 16 2021 16:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Dandel claimed he had no kp despite a slam check, slam checked him as doesn't win with town, and then dandel claimed he had kp after he already had a guilty and lied about it.
And thanks to Vivax, we can't lynch him.
They're both mafia.

On January 16 2021 16:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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Except nobody gave any reasons that I'm scummy.
Vivax posted one thing about n0 which already been disproven and shown to be bad in yet here we are.

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Your problem is that E v e r y t h i n g you say comes from the perspective where I'm mafia and not 3p. If you were town here at least you should be conscious of that possibility and shout at me 'Vivax you dumbass, you just cost town and yourself the game' while you oscillate between me being scum and 3p. That would seem like the natural reaction, and I'd have a dirty conscience.

Instead this litany of me being mafia keeps going on. Which isn't a bad thing because it means I'm less likely to have fucked up and your main goal being survival.

If I'm wrong here I guarantee, promise and sign you that there is no good outcome today for town no matter who gets lynched.

If you went on an emo tour about me throwing the game I would even have been willing to get lynched for the tiny chance that town still can win if they lynch 3P.

And no, many people gave many reasons for you to be scummy starting last night, possibly even before.

So let's say Slam is legit, Dandel is scum, but we're lucky and Obi bleeds red. Who's the last scum? Jat imo, minuscule Wave or TT chance.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 08:51 GMT

#2920

On January 16 2021 16:06 Eversince wrote:
You know I keep hoping I'll eventually be caught up.
I've realized it's never going to happen.

This shit fighting is one of the reasons.
Why spend 10 pages saying 'other guy scum!'
Make case-> rebuttal-> ??

I think I'm chance it.
Vivax, blast some meme videos for me! If I just lost *shrug*.. My ability to play this game was gone almost a week ago r.r..

Conversely, prove Vivax is scum not 3p.

This entire game is a meme. I'm having fun tho, I guess? You're not quite the same as when you were when hydraing with cop, real pain in the butt there.

Tinfoil theory would be Jat + Slam + Dandel where jat and slam just troll me after saving Dandel.

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 16:22 GMT

#2927

I'm not going to be around at EoD.

GGs?

Vivax

22192 Posts

January 16 2021 16:22 GMT

#2928

The information is on the table take it or leave it.