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On January 11 2021 22:39 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't think we should be talking about me though I'll look into... Who, shockey? At work today so will be sporadic I agree this discussion feels like we're still talking about Dandel's role and I really want that thread of discussion to die immediately. Shockey is absolutely mafia. | ||
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On January 11 2021 22:45 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean not from my perspective. If we want to lynch Dandel I'm totally fine with that based on role alone, it seems pretty anti town, but I don't think there's anything else to learn from my perspective on the 'alignment change' despite the fact that hf thinks he nailed the scum team I'm way more inclined to listen to anything yamato has said than HF because so far everything hf has said has been completely wrong I think JAT is trying to associate between you and HF for how the lynch played out | ||
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On January 11 2021 22:47 WaveofShadow wrote: I also have very strong suspicion that Tictock is town, not in small part due to his 'trap' he set up in the QT for me, but I guess that could be marination, to borrow a term from among us Though settings traps are overwhelmingly town mindset oriented I think your read on TickTock is shallower than "strong suspicion" He really looks to me like someone trying to appear earnest but focusing on the absolute incorrect things | ||
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On January 11 2021 22:48 Holyflare wrote: What exactly have I said that's been wrong? If you are town then everyone that dodged your wagon and gave TMI is exactly who I called out? You want to look into Shockey, who I'm calling mafia. If you are town and you wanted to potentially ruin the game just so you wouldn't be a vanilla role (even though I am essentially a vanilla role in hapa's game) then I have absolutely 0 respect left for you. I choose to not believe that world. Man, you are putting too much stock into the Dandel game. I don't think Wave ever risked ruining the game with his play | ||
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On January 11 2021 22:49 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, why wouldn't I? If Wave is scum there is a clear motivation in switching to GB. Pretty tinfoil on N1 if you ask me. Shockey/TickTock are much more likely mafia, not to mention Slam/Dandel/Obi who I would all lynch rn before digging into HF/Wave | ||
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On January 11 2021 22:52 justanothertownie wrote: I mean it doesn't necessarily have to be HF but I think it is quite obvious that Waves alignment is important when discussing our day1, yes? Yeah I have a flimsy townread on him because of his secondary reads post. There's also the fact that he's one of the more central figures in the game and thus much less likely to be mafia overall than a tertiary player like Shockey/TickTock/Obi. I get your point about his lynch not really taking off but I also think that D1 was such a mess that it doesn't necessarily have to mean that mafia were avoiding his wagon on purpose. That is, assuming you aren't mafia and joined on with me/hf | ||
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TickTock's opening posts were as the game began and thus not that meaningful. However: On January 08 2021 16:48 Tictock wrote: I'm not sure where I am at with this game, my role is weird and my reads are weak. I thin Yam is probably town for being to the point. Vivax might have been role fishing with his opener. I want to see where Dandel's stuff goes. Oh and townfeels for Sho. and bedtime for myself His first reads post is pretty safe. Not obviously damning but it sets a precedent. Next: On January 10 2021 08:42 Tictock wrote: Ok, finally got done with back to back shifts. Sadly this game did not start when I had ample free time. Dandle is 3rd party. His ability seems a little OP, but it seems like he just has a wincon to get happa lynched which would convenienly remove his slot by both lynch and wincon. So fairly anti-town if that's correct. My assumption right now is that if we done lynch Hapa things will return to normal, hopefully with night phase. In other words, not something I want to focus on for the day. Vivax poses a bit of a conundrum though claiming he rolled me and was/is 3rd party. I would normally say there is no way we have 2 3P teams or w/e, but this is heavily theamed so maybe. His play does remind me of the game where he and Rayn were mafia though. Conversion has made multiple "nuke" posts with wonky reasoning as to why he targets whoever he is. It's possible he is just RPing, but I kinda suspect he is just using that as a cover to not really enguage. So if I had to pick right now I would lynch between Vivax/Conversion. However I have only read through of 31 (or most of it) and will make an effort to finish reading tonight. I'm super tired though so I may pass out early to make sure I am up for EoD. This begins TT's obsession with Dandel. He never shuts up about his role. Even right now he is making a post talking about how Dandel's role allowed mafia to reign free D1. He certainly would know, wouldn't he? He also spends a lot of words on Vivax, who is actually claimed 3P. Why the focus on these claims he doesn't think make people mafia? Easy to look like you're scumhunting as scum. After D1 begins, this is how he proceeds to "interact" with the thread: On January 10 2021 11:02 Tictock wrote: What makes you think this game has roles like that? On January 10 2021 11:06 Tictock wrote: Oh interesting, so you want Dandel's plan to succeed. On January 10 2021 11:29 Tictock wrote: Why is putting your vote somewhere at the start important? On January 10 2021 13:19 Tictock wrote: Did I miss something? Are you being attacked? Blink twice if you need help. Like I said before, his interactions are extremely shallow. He's not pursuing reads, he's posting to post and appear as if he's trying to figure things out. On January 10 2021 20:02 Tictock wrote: Well I responded to the HF stuff already I thought. I don't trust HF to be honest. I have the sense he is playing his own game, and I question why he is wanting to lynch Hapa and push Dandel's agenda. He has made some good points, but that means little for his alignment. I am more interested in lynching Conversion though. Mostly I just don't see him doing anything, but calling people mafia with weird or no reason and being upset. Like the majority of his posts feel like RP or are fairly meaningless (like the read based on hollow knight). The RP is hurting the game, I am having a hard time telling who is just posting and who is RPing. Like Sho is throwing me through a loop with his posts kus I think he is RPing but he is already a low volume poster that this makes it impossible to get anything from most of his posts. A bunch of people I feel I have no read on due to RP stuff. I still think Yam is town, Jat is cutting through bullshit so feels town. Neither is really saying a lot though, and that makes it hard to know what the thinking behind some of their reads are (though atm it's possible I skimmed it missed stuff). A lot of these reads aren't particularly difficult to make nor are they particularly committal. In particular his "scumread" of Conversion is something that I think flies under the radar here. Conversion is the best lynch because he is calling people mafia and RPing, even though RPing makes Shockey impossible to read for TT? What kind of logic is that? I think so little focus has been on TT that this simply slipped through the cracks. On January 10 2021 20:23 Tictock wrote: Oh almost forgot. ##Vote: Holyflare Just covering my bases. How is this ever his vote in this spot? On January 10 2021 20:32 Tictock wrote: You think Conversion knew his nuke was gunna be fake? Fair enough I suppose re Wave, a touch OMGUS though, and not something that convinces me since I am not very confident about either of being town. There may be hints at the bad reason, my slightly better reason is that his wagon feels too easy. If somehow JAT/HF are right about Wave's alignment mattering a lot this post in particular feels important and is something I ACTUALLY think could be alignment indicative. On January 11 2021 04:57 Tictock wrote: ##Vote: GlowingBear I can consolidate on a null read. Did people figure out Dandel is only showing in thread votes and it's not the real vote count? That was why my HF vote was not my focus kus it wasn't real This is his last post of the day. Real uninspiring sheep onto GB as I've pointed out before. On January 11 2021 14:36 Tictock wrote: Just to add my interpretation, though Waves description of what happened is accurate. I read Obis statement more like he thought Wave sucked as mafia and didn't want to play as scum with him, or that he was convinced Wave was going to be lynched so if our "team" turned real we would be a man down. He said as much in another post than what Wave was discussing here. From the rest of his messages though I see Obi wasn't sure if Dandel's stuff was or was not going to be perminant so that may have been part of it. Idk, I'm going to make a separate post of my thoughts about Dandel essentialy makng the three of us masons for a day. One more interesting thing though from that QT though, I dropped the idea that I had a way to save Wave from the lynch. Dandel's role for me did say it had something like that, not that I was ever going to use it, but wanted to see what Wave would say. He told me I shouldn't do it. Take that as you will. Wave, if this is your reason for thinking TT is town I am real disappoint. On January 11 2021 15:29 Tictock wrote: To that end, I haven't fully decided what I think of Dandel's role and how he used it. On the one hand he removed himself from the game and caused a fair bit of confusion. Both of which are fairly anti-town... Actually if he is town is it that bad to remove self as a target for a day? As a scum ability it actually would be pretty OP to force a mislynch. The other hand is that it was ultimately all fluff and the game is now back to as normal as this game will be. So in that sense his ability was a ton of flavor but pretty weak. The flavor was too notch though, besides the continued joke relating my name to TikToc. I was clearly here first and no silly video app should define me. I have also been using Tictock as a username since like 2010 so :p TT spends a LOT of posts N1 discussing Dandel's role. On January 11 2021 15:36 Tictock wrote: Uhh... I am pretty sure I was the only person to vote for conversion yesterday, this is laughable hypocritical-ness right here or just straight mafia. Probably mafia. Aside from what reads like a weak distancing attempt after everyone has already caught his scumbuddy. He also spends quite a bit of time attempting to "help" Eversince catch up and nothing much comes of that conversation. I think most of this is fairly strong evidence that TT is mafia. Also, in the previous game I played where TT was mafia, his posting felt initially very similar to how it does here, very safe and bland with little in the way of substantive reads. I certainly understand not having a lot of time to play and all but I am unconvinced that a town agenda exists within this filter, while I can certainly imagine a mafia TickTock making all of these posts. | ||
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On January 11 2021 23:40 Holyflare wrote: I can't die because then mafia will lose. lmao | ||
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On January 11 2021 23:58 Dandel Ion wrote: Most of your case is that he focusses too much on me, doesn't have reads or push anything, but you're townreading eversince so it's hard to take you seriously on that front. The rest is meta, which is fair enough i guess but i can't really do much with it. I am actually cautiously unenthused. unlike eversince I think TT has been around a significant amount of time during important parts of the game you're also ignoring his terrible sheep onto the GB lynch | ||
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On January 12 2021 00:15 Dandel Ion wrote: true but you also need to factor in how much fun it is to lynch you a lot | ||
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