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On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote: Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town??? Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons. Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position. | ||
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On January 10 2021 23:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok I just saw Basically no good reasoning up until this point, then a few half assed reasons with what seems to be pre-confirmation bias after the fact now that people are questioning it. The trolly fake swap? Really? Lol At least Jat you have been engaging.HF and yamato who are on the wagon with you refuse to acknowledge anything I've said, though I suppose if you get the wagon you want you don't care who's on it What exactly have you said that is supposed to be extremely convincing? That you wanted to have fun and vote Dandel to see what happens but then you didn't want to vote Hapa in case Dandel's thing sticks. But then you even said you didn't believe Dandel's thing would even stick if you did vote hapa. So why did you continue to not vote hapa to try and remove Dandel from the game if you were so set on a no lynch and thought dandel would win and leave? Now you've moved on to some new Obi wagon and are just mindlessly telling people to join it for reasons. If the Dandel game truly doesn't matter and you won't wagon hapa then you would be fine telling us who your mafia QT partners are and what you've talked about so far, right? Especially as you say you were suspicious of them. | ||
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Tictock - refused to join wave wagon, cited that he felt the same as wave for wanting to see what Dandel's thing did and not really wanting to follow through with it: On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote: I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia? I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative. I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that. Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things. Obi - possible worst offender of them all: On January 09 2021 08:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think conversion is me. I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was. I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think. Wants to default to a 3P wagon or no lynch instead of actively searching to call anyone mafia, thinks that doing nothing will revert the game back to how it was. Seemingly reeks of TMI about Dandel's alignment and then even displays it: On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are people so convinced dandel is scum? I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it. On January 10 2021 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it? GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you. He even interjects between myself/GB saying he doesn't understand the argument because "the situation resolves itself" which it doesn't because my argument is that Wave is probably mafia from the night before, which Obi even acknowledges here: On January 10 2021 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0? That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure. Obi seems to know that Conversion's nukes are fake which imo means that he knows: 1) Yamato is town 2) Conversion is also town I think it's a bit of a stretch to go from seeing a nuke in the thread and assuming it's fake UNLESS you know the alignment of both of those players and use that logic to leap to "why would a townie nuke another townie pointlessly like that unless it's fake" | ||
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On January 11 2021 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol No, not giving up my qt partners Mr fisherman, that's up to them. And your reasoning above... Is that supposed to make me scum? Laughable. Why do I have to vote Hapa to believe any of what I said? Just because you want me to because it fits your view of what will go down doesn't mean it fits mine, and doesn't make me scummy at all. Jat is the only person on my wagon who makes even an inkling of sense and its aggravating me Stop making me post my wife is gonna get mad lol 1) Why is it up to them if you are the diligent townie that doesn't think Dandel's game is real AND you think the people in the QT are suspicious? Pointless. 2) I didn't say you had to vote hapa to believe what you said. I said that you continued to vote no lynch instead of hapa, or anyone else for that matter because ????? You are being extremely obtuse and anti-town regardless of if you are or not. Just because you put up some facade of bravado and act like everything is supposed to be "oh whoopie these guys are so bad with their lack of reasons to vote me look at me being so good!" It's pathetic. You want to have fun but you're doing it at the expense of people in the game that want to play mafia. Either out your QT members and be pro town, whittle down all your chainsaw defenders and find mafia or give reasons for people to join this amazing wagon on Obi. Or just continue doing what you're doing and get eliminated. | ||
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On January 11 2021 00:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Are you legit calling everyone who didn't vote for me scum? Go home. If you can read this wall of text and make it somehow all about you rather than the points I actually raised then you have some kind of ego problem. Tictock - Logic leap Obi - Logic leap, assuming of alignments to make those leaps and the typical defend the anti town Dandel by knowing his alignment GB - completely different from normal GB, actively voting for a 3P that would leave the game if his wincon is fulfilled AND was getting nuked and doesn't put the slightest bit of effort into finding actual mafia What about those points are about you? | ||
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On January 11 2021 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote: That's garbage, and this point I won't concede. Not playing the way you want is not the same thing as ruining the game for others and I'm annoyed that you would suggest that especially given that I backed off of you before at your request. Go ahead and eliminate me. I do not really care if it annoys you. If you are town, you have a list of people that are mafia that you are in a QT with that you refuse to out. Why would you refuse to out them? Either you're originally mafia and that's fine and that's your wincon or you're town who doesn't think Dandel's thing will come to fruition but then you're playing extremely anti-town. If you think that the Dandel game could become real then you outed yourself as mafia and that you have a QT with new mafia members. Not only is that extremely anti-town but it's pretty much anti-game and if it did become fulfilled is almost modkillable. If you want to just have fun and not contribute to anything meaningful, like finding mafia, other than saying "obi is totally mafia guys vote him" without trying to convince us of why and then refusing to engage when I start calling people mafia then that's absolutely on you, not me. | ||
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On January 11 2021 00:41 WaveofShadow wrote: YOUR LITERAL FIRST POINTS ABOUT GB AND TICKYOCK ARE REFUSED TO JOIN WAVE WGON It is not a "first point" and it could be X, Y or Z's wagon. The wagon is irrelevant, the reasoning and logic is all that matters. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @HF - I realized conversion was roleplaying as me, and I don't think anyone would yolo nuke with a real nuke for a nonexistent reason so really the only conclusion to draw was that it was fake. I also think lynching Vivax is fine if you think the current gamestate isn't real. I also don't really have a read on dandel either way and I'm not sure why you think otherwise? Like the case on him is objectively bad (that his role makes him mafia) but he really hasn't done anything at all and I'm not sure why that warrants a vote or how people are drawing more conclusions based on that. I also feel like you should have responded to my post about wave being mafia from n0 before using it as a point simply because I don't feel like your reasoning regarding that has been fleshed out enough, if at all? Even if you think he was, I don't agree with it and would like reasoning as to why. As for yamato, I actually think he's dropping towards the null category at this point but with the game being the way it is currently, I'm not really sure that even matters. Honestly I think I mapped out my play today pretty accurately and stand by it. It's not a great strategy per se, but I feel like most of the important stuff happened n0 and most of today is going to be a wash thanks to dandel, and scumhunting based on a few lines early is going to be nigh impossible. You didn't realise Conversion is roleplaying you. One of my parents is you and neither of them are Conversion. You don't have a read on Dandel, there is no case on Dandel other than Slam who I think basically said he made it up for RPing purposes. You've been told that already though so I don't know who these other people are that are drawing conclusions on Dandel. Dandel is just as likely to flip mafia as Vivax was (unlikely) but you mentioned Dandel at that point rather than Vivax. It's just a bit weird for you to defend dandel when he's done absolutely shit all but distract from the game for 2 days. What was there to respond to your posts about? That wave was mafia from n0? I already made my point clear on why I thought that, his mindset shifted from having fun to being defensive and essentially martyring for votes. Now he doesn't want to out his QT buddies even though he has no belief that Dandel's role continues past this day. Is that pro town? Why is Yamato dropping to the null category? What's he done specifically? | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt. Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did. At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.' Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip. I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically. There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything., I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol "I hope this isn't real because if wave is scum this game is going to suck." Why is that a slip? Either it's a typo or he hates you personally and thinks you're bad at mafia. If he's mafia n0 and turns to mafia day 1 why would the game suddenly suck if you're now mafia with him? | ||
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On January 11 2021 03:33 Holyflare wrote: "I hope this isn't real because if wave is scum this game is going to suck." Why is that a slip? Either it's a typo or he hates you personally and thinks you're bad at mafia. If he's mafia n0 and turns to mafia day 1 why would the game suddenly suck if you're now mafia with him? | ||
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On January 11 2021 03:33 Holyflare wrote: "I hope this isn't real because if wave is scum this game is going to suck." Why is that a slip? Either it's a typo or he hates you personally and thinks you're bad at mafia. If he's mafia n0 and turns to mafia day 1 why would the game suddenly suck if you're now mafia with him? If anything I think it makes him marginally more townie that he thinks you're gonna out him as mafia when he's "not". There it is. | ||
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On January 09 2021 08:41 GlowingBear wrote: ##Vote: Dandel Ion On January 10 2021 12:01 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax  ##vote Glowingbear | ||
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