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On January 11 2021 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone?
Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.- Today is very much real. You just have to ignore dandels shennanigans. What is so complicated about this?
But people aren't doing that.
I guess you can just make the assumption that people are going to play as scum even if they're town this time but I kind of don't really see what the point of that would be? I feel like they would still be pushing some sort of agenda regardless but that just kind of isn't really happening at all.
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I guess that makes yamato more likely mafia if you think he's playing the same way either way.
Actually now that I think about it original scum would probably still have access to their QT which makes that more likely I suppose.
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On January 11 2021 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2021 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 11 2021 02:51 justanothertownie wrote:On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.
Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.
At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'
Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.
I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.
There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,
I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol Why would anyone ever assume all people who dandel made scum had to have been town earlier? Sure that doesn't have to be the conclusion, but why specifically single me out there? If I scumclaim and am scum n0, why does that make a difference if he believes the new state to be real? And if he doesn't believe ti to be real, isn't it a good thing if he's town? Well, he obviously thought the game might stay that way. That would be my guess.
Yeah I've mostly been hedging my bets here and just kinda hoping everything goes back to normal since this game just huffs nards otherwise.
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On January 11 2021 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also blitz let me be clear, I hate it too when stuff gets outed like that. And I'm sorry, it does ruin the fun a lil.
I'm only doing it cause I think you're scum
Ilu tho
lol I haven't taken it personally in the slightest.
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On January 11 2021 02:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2021 02:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I legitimately hate it when people just go and claim my stuff without my consent.
If this gamestate is real I am going to flip your omelette. Part of why I did this is because of what HF said earlier----this prevents the gamestate from being real because in effect it absolutely destroys the game. How can you ask a whole bunch of people to switch alignments midgame if you don't even know if you've truly switched?!That breaks the game completely when something like this happens, and I don't think it's on us to keep it secret when we don['t have perfect information like scum normally do. It's just not fair.
That's actually a really good point tbh.
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What if dandel's VC is for something completely different?
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Like what if our votes in here are for a different thing?
Actually that's ridiculous forget I said that.
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On January 11 2021 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
Lol ShoCkeyy mafia
Probably.
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Agree with HF on shockeyy tbh.
Will be afk for the rest of my work day.
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It was mostly TMI based on thinking a nuke was fake and not thinking day 1 was relevant.
My dandel role PM was scum but we've already established that that doesn't actually exist, and pretty much everyone that thought that now thinks I'm town.
Wave might still have some doubts but even he's still iffy on those, probably because there aren't any left really.
Anyhoezels. What are your current reads?
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On January 11 2021 10:15 Eversince wrote:
What's up with conv?
What's the case that killed GB?
Why doesn't anyone but me think the host change fiasco (accomplished what?) Isn't relevant?
Vivax iirc is confirmed 3p?
I have so many questions.. And no time.
GB was apathetic and didn't care.
His votes were relatively nonsensical iirc.
Idk it was a day 1 case and none of those are ever really good - he mostly died because he wasn't here lol.
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On January 11 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I still dont like Dandel, his ability did nothing for the thread other than get a townie lynched.
Yeah...
I kinda feel like he needs some real reads or opinions at this point. I get that he had a cool role but the nonsense is over now and I feel like that slot needs more pressure.
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Yeah all three scum QT members have been claimed already - tictock, wave, and me have all confirmed each other already.
It was like right at EOD come on guys.
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So I guess my reads right now are for yamato/shockeyy/dandel.
Shockeyy might be weakest among those three but that remains to be seen.
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Yeah Wave was planning to claim scum almost since start of day so don't let that get to HF's head or w/e.
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Yamato goes back into the townpile for me for what I feel are obvious reasons.
Still rereading the thread to see what I missed.
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EPT
