I think conversion is me.
I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was.

I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 00:18 GMT

#652

On January 09 2021 09:10 yamato77 wrote:
if town conversion shot a nuke at town me on day 1 for calling him lame I am highly disappointed

I don't think that's a real nuke.
He's roleplaying as me I think.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 00:18 GMT

#654

Why are people so convinced dandel is scum?
I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 00:20 GMT

#656

On January 09 2021 09:18 yamato77 wrote:

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Hapa just posted that it was

so...?

If my thoughts are correct, the game where this happened had fake nukes in it too.
I had a real one in game but I think the most likely outcome here is that he just kind of has to do this and he maybe gets a real one later possibly - it fits a little bit better than just yolo nuking (which wasn't what happened) but still fits flavorwise.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 00:21 GMT

#658

On January 09 2021 09:20 yamato77 wrote:
I mean sure it's possible that the nuke conversion shot at me is a dud but ???

It's clear to anyone with a brain that I am town by now anyway so whatever. If I die lynch conversion.

I suppose I will continue to play as if it's a fake until proven otherwise.

I think this is the best solution, and also the most likely one.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 02:10 GMT

#676

On January 09 2021 10:13 Alakaslam wrote:

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Still. What this is causing just looks like scum.

You have to correlate roles to alignment! Are you gonna make scum a parity cop?

I guess you could...

Are you gonna make a townie godfather? Every townie that isn’t also a miller is a godfather!

Town godfathers exist, if only to throw off rolecops.
I get the logic I'm just not following it as the end all be all reason of why he's scum.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 23:20 GMT

#791

On January 10 2021 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:

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The nuke failed to explode on impact.

Shock and surprise.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 23:21 GMT

#792

On January 10 2021 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
GB is mafia btw really obvious

Wouldn't surprise me either at this point tbh.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 23:21 GMT

#793

@HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0?
That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 09 2021 23:31 GMT

#796

I mean.
We can.

If the game goes back to normal are we just banking on him being mafia on both ends or what's the plan here?

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 10 2021 03:59 GMT

#833

On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote:
Why is nobody pushing anything.

Because nobody is sure if what's happening right now is real or not.
Or at least that's my interpretation of it.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 10 2021 04:15 GMT

#834

Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it?

GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 10 2021 17:16 GMT

#929

@HF - I realized conversion was roleplaying as me, and I don't think anyone would yolo nuke with a real nuke for a nonexistent reason so really the only conclusion to draw was that it was fake.

I also think lynching Vivax is fine if you think the current gamestate isn't real.

I also don't really have a read on dandel either way and I'm not sure why you think otherwise? Like the case on him is objectively bad (that his role makes him mafia) but he really hasn't done anything at all and I'm not sure why that warrants a vote or how people are drawing more conclusions based on that.

I also feel like you should have responded to my post about wave being mafia from n0 before using it as a point simply because I don't feel like your reasoning regarding that has been fleshed out enough, if at all? Even if you think he was, I don't agree with it and would like reasoning as to why.

As for yamato, I actually think he's dropping towards the null category at this point but with the game being the way it is currently, I'm not really sure that even matters.

Honestly I think I mapped out my play today pretty accurately and stand by it. It's not a great strategy per se, but I feel like most of the important stuff happened n0 and most of today is going to be a wash thanks to dandel, and scumhunting based on a few lines early is going to be nigh impossible.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 10 2021 17:18 GMT

#930

I actually just realized I missed a vivax post and thought he claimed 3p this cycle, and claimed scum last cycle.
So ignore my points on him that was just a mistake on my end.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 10 2021 17:21 GMT

#931

I'm actually not sold on wave being scum n0 but if he's going to vote me then I can just vote him out of spite tbh.

GB might be a better vote and yamato is actually falling off my list, though yamato is mostly for stuff today so I'm actually not sure that really matters so much.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 10 2021 17:43 GMT

#936

On January 11 2021 02:35 Holyflare wrote:

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You didn't realise Conversion is roleplaying you. One of my parents is you and neither of them are Conversion.

You don't have a read on Dandel, there is no case on Dandel other than Slam who I think basically said he made it up for RPing purposes. You've been told that already though so I don't know who these other people are that are drawing conclusions on Dandel. Dandel is just as likely to flip mafia as Vivax was (unlikely) but you mentioned Dandel at that point rather than Vivax.

It's just a bit weird for you to defend dandel when he's done absolutely shit all but distract from the game for 2 days.

What was there to respond to your posts about? That wave was mafia from n0? I already made my point clear on why I thought that, his mindset shifted from having fun to being defensive and essentially martyring for votes. Now he doesn't want to out his QT buddies even though he has no belief that Dandel's role continues past this day. Is that pro town?

Why is Yamato dropping to the null category? What's he done specifically?

Well, I thought conversion was roleplaying me and I even said so in thread - that was most of the basis for my original thought process on why the nuke wasn't real. Maybe I was wrong in my original deduction but I don't see why that really matters at the end of the day? Unless you think that I couldn't have come to that conclusion.

Dandel is just completely null and I get that the role is confusing but, honestly, if that's all people have then I really don't think that's going to cut it for lynching someone.

Yamato was somewhat solve-y early but has since dropped off - he doesn't really give a shit about the gamestate stuff iirc and is just voting wave because he claimed scum, and I know he can be way smarter than that.
I'm not sold on him being scum from n0 so it may not mean anything at all, which is unbelievably annoying, but I guess that's just kind of how things are right now.

As far as Wave goes, I think that asking him to out his scum QT members might be a bit much considering the whole game would be at stake from his perspective. I agree that it isn't pro-town, but if you think this isn't real, why do you care? He probably isn't going to tell you until he's confirmed back to his original alignment anyway.