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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 13:59 GMT
#2699
On January 15 2021 22:58 ghostofconversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 22:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 15 2021 22:55 ghostofconversion wrote:
but then the question is always why would TT clear in thread and not tell her to calm down in QT? ES was never the lynch

this would also mean mafia!TT bussed Dandel early since there were several occasions where he wanted to lynch Dandel, and interacted about 0 times meaningfully with Obi

Why is the bussing suddenly bugging you when it never made a difference to you before?


I've never commented on the bussing this game at all?

Exactly. But you still thought both of them are mafia, right?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 14:02 GMT
#2700
Whatever I am tired of this. The lynch is what it is and it depends on what obi is doing today. At least my vote does.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 14:07 GMT
#2702
On January 15 2021 23:06 ghostofconversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 22:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 15 2021 22:58 ghostofconversion wrote:
On January 15 2021 22:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 15 2021 22:55 ghostofconversion wrote:
but then the question is always why would TT clear in thread and not tell her to calm down in QT? ES was never the lynch

this would also mean mafia!TT bussed Dandel early since there were several occasions where he wanted to lynch Dandel, and interacted about 0 times meaningfully with Obi

Why is the bussing suddenly bugging you when it never made a difference to you before?


I've never commented on the bussing this game at all?

Exactly. But you still thought both of them are mafia, right?


I've commented that TT was mafia based on his filter and contributions, but I'm trying to think why mafia!TT would randomly defend his mafia!Eversince when she was in no threat to a lynch. The bussing was more of a comment for myself to revisit his filter

OK, fair enough.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 15:48 GMT
#2722
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here.
Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.

???
In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 16:01 GMT
#2725
On January 16 2021 00:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here.
Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.

???
In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.


I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk.
I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.

I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 16:05 GMT
#2727
On January 16 2021 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here.
Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.

???
In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.


I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk.
I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.

I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.


That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed.

Well, help me out then.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 16:17 GMT
#2738
On January 16 2021 01:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 01:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 16 2021 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here.
Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.

???
In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.


I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk.
I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.

I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.


That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed.

Well, help me out then.


Sure.
Just ftr, your poe list is narrowed down to me and TT because you think waveu is confirmed town, correct?

Why is Noone reading my posts?
No, he is not confirmed. But it is likely that he saved Yamato. If you can offer me a plausible alternative for that I will put him in the poe pool.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 16:20 GMT
#2743
On January 16 2021 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here.
Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.

???
In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.

S U P

MAH NIGGA

Have I successfully been you? :D

I am JAT. I think the game is over so may as well claim and gloat

Also, roleplaying you made me play significantly better sensei lol

So my role is to tunnel all the time? I think that's harsh. But OK. Maybe I am too deluded to see it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 16:29 GMT
#2749
On January 16 2021 01:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
I just ignored my role tbh cause I had no idea how to do it

Same.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:00 GMT
#2759
On January 16 2021 01:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I was actually sort of under the impression that you killed HF last night but, again, I think that might be because I misread something.
Do you have the ability to redirect actions?

No, to reverse them.

HF tried to create a QT with you, ever, and JAT or yama or I forget who wasnt in it

The result was to create one with EVERYONE ELSE lol

Exactly. His ability is basically confirmed. The only thing that is not 100 % confirmed is that mafia targeted Yamato. But who did they shoot in that case and why did it not go through? Occam says wave probably blocked it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:06 GMT
#2764
On January 16 2021 02:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've been trying to fish for it but there's really no way anyone would ever own up to visiting yamato so
I tried to use my ability on him again last night, so either he was protected and I killed him, or I was roleblocked

Figured as much.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:13 GMT
#2766
On January 16 2021 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I also think I'm pretty decent at finding scum in the people who attack me.
Especially since I'm such a frequent target most of the time - I think I have a lot of experience in this scenario so I think taking my word here might be worth more than you think.

I get the effort point but that really only seems to apply on day 2, where shockeyy was being lynched, but I was okay with that so what's the point of overdoing stuff when I already have what I want?

Plus, I have given you reasons as to why Vivax is mafia - you can't just say "you didn't try hard enough" when most of those reasons came at pretty much the only time he did anything, and I don't see anyone actually disputing the points that I raised.

The points are generally valid. But differentiating between 3p and mafia is hard.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:18 GMT
#2769
On January 16 2021 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
One point I don't think anyone mentioned is the nature of the argument that a vivax/dandel scum team doesn't make a ton of sense.

Them both claiming 3p together is pretty stupid imo
Also consider both roleclaims kade
Dandels was wildly convoluted and shifting all the time and nobody could make heads or tails of it most of the time
Hes literally been lying all game

Vivax claimed when it was of zero benefit to scum, was clear, concise, and detailed.

That is true but Vivax also saved dandel from being lynched which is blatantly against towns interest.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:20 GMT
#2770
Also, if I am not mistaken Vivax is someone who always gets found out over time so preemptively claiming 3p might be a good way to avoid that... Idk
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:31 GMT
#2779
On January 16 2021 02:29 ghostofconversion wrote:
I mean I can see a world where 3P!Vivax sees 0 votes on Dandel, thinks town is going to waffle and lose the game, rereads the thread and forces a vote between him and his scummiest read, where he does not believe Slam's claim and Dandel is a town player with reverse KP

I don't see a world where M!Vivax decides to use his power before I'm dead and with 24+ hours to go to force a lynch between him and +1. The best use of this power is to do it when I'm dead, and slam it on himself and another person with a smaller amount of time to discuss to try and force a mislynch. M!Vivax, if he's smart, would have waited to confirm my nuke is actually real to see if I get removed from the game, then try to run down the clock with disorganized town to force the MYLO with a smaller amount of time left

How is this about you in any way?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:32 GMT
#2780
On January 16 2021 02:31 ghostofconversion wrote:
like in no way does a mafia team ever make a move before confirming whether my nuke is real or not

Why would they ever assume your nuke is real?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:46 GMT
#2789
On January 16 2021 02:37 ghostofconversion wrote:
I don't think I'm being very confusing?

Vivax being mafia means 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% Dandel is teammates with him, which Wave points to being a weird team, but let's say it's true for this argument's sake

Mafia sees me nuke myself, assumes my nuke isn't real (even if I am screaming that it is MYLO because it is real). They wait 24 hours, confirms my nuke is real, we are at 5/3 24 hours in because I'm a game ruiner. Vivax then subverts the Dandel lynch, and tries to convince people of someone the thread sentiment thinks is scummy, person gets lynched, Mafia wins due to mislynch

If my nuke is fake, Vivax just traded 1:1 for absolutely no reason since we are no longer at MYLO. If mafia are never assuming my nuke is real, Mafia!Vivax just made a random 1:1 trade for no fucking reason? so it makes even less sense JAT if you're assuming that mafia never believe I'm being serious

First of all if I was mafia I wouldn't believe you for a second. Then going 1vs1 does not mean that Vivax trades since his 3p claim means he has a convenient excuse and we aren't smarter at all after mislynching.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:49 GMT
#2791
On January 16 2021 02:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I think the onus is on you to make the argument that 3p would do the same thing, especially since he would theoretically have even less of a reason to do the thing you're saying he would do.

Well 3p Vivax absolutely has the reason to duel since he did not vote on day2 like an idiot (or lost the plot as mafia). He needs the points. The question is though why 3p Vivax does not go for the safest lynch which would have been dandel.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:54 GMT
#2793
On January 16 2021 02:52 ghostofconversion wrote:
@Vivax do you believe Dandel is town?

He claimed as much.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 15 2021 17:55 GMT
#2794
But it makes no sense.
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