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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:43 GMT
#1783
On January 13 2021 04:37 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think a jester would have that ability

also jester is a terrible role and would be a 3rd 3p

I choose to believe he's just terrible


I do.

You're assuming we have 3 3Ps though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:46 GMT
#1786
On January 13 2021 04:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 04:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't think I've ever played a game with the mythical jester

Imo it's just an old wives tale
A story to scare children who don't listen to their elders


+ Show Spoiler +
Alakaslam

Hijole you are Alakaslam master of svengali and king of chupazi. Whatever that means since nobody but you actually knows what it means... You are completely unreadable because people can never understand what you are talking about. Are you actually scum hunting? Eh doesnt matter you just want to have fun anyway.

Jester (cannot claim)
1 Anti Nuke
When killed or lynched will give 3 random nukes out, Nukes can be Real, Fake, or Anti

Upgrade: (medium) Say Chupazi, Hijole, and Svengalli each at least once.

The Chupazi is strong in this one!

Mason 1 player of your choice.
1 shot bulletproof vest


Was in the last one apparently.

Which one was that? Was I in there?
Ah well


WaveofShadow as Half the Sky Killed Night 1

yes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:48 GMT
#1788
On January 13 2021 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I mean if we want to panic get off shockeyy that's fine I guess?
But I will say I'm far more likely to follow whatever yams does than you sir.

My faith in the bank of Holyflare is shaken
You bad boy


So you think I could be mafia after coming up with that convuluted as fuck QT bait on yamato? Plz.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 20:18 GMT
#1813
On January 13 2021 05:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I really wonder who you rolled tbh.


Either GB for incessant calling hf mafia or.... Dandel for trolling? Idk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 20:33 GMT
#1815
I'm not voting for shockeyy it's a bad elim
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 20:35 GMT
#1817
He's a jester or yamato has a hit out on a specific name, either way shockey is a bad vote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 00:36 GMT
#1878
On January 13 2021 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
HF, are you going to drop this 2 qt claim now? Then we can talk. Otherwise explain how he can be town OR jester.


Sure, I'll drop it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 00:37 GMT
#1879
I feel like a mafia power does not entail giving them 2 extra votes but receiving 3x as many from everyone that votes them. That is jester 101.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 01:18 GMT
#1884
On January 13 2021 10:10 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't somebody just vig him? Oh!
We can give him protection and I can reverse it


If you are assuming he is Jester, which I seriously disagree with, doesn't killing him in anyway give him his wincon?

I really don't see Hapa or Grey putting in a Jester like that, even the role HF quoted didn't make it a requirement he play to get killed. I trust our hosts to not make a role like that.

I think it is much more likely the extra votes is a side effect of an action he took that he is keeping secret.


No, jesters need to be solely voted off to win.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 01:19 GMT
#1885
It didn't have the wincon in the one I linked because it was just the role but jesters only win by being voted, which is why the power makes total sense as a jester and 0% sense as mafia.

What kind of mafia power outs that you're the one controlling votes when literally anyone votes you? Dumb af.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 03:42 GMT
#1903
I think you need some time away from the thread if you're confused by my very basic accusations towards shockey.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:23 GMT
#1933
On January 13 2021 15:20 Vivax wrote:
The classical jester means everyone else loses when he gets lynched. I doubt that‘s in the game with me as 3p already. Maybe he just ‚wins‘ but the game goes on.

HF doesn‘t seem keen on lynching him in an agenda-y way


I've never seen a game end with jester being eliminated. Only them achieving a wincon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:24 GMT
#1934
On January 13 2021 16:17 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 15:42 Vivax wrote:
On January 13 2021 15:31 yamato77 wrote:
Jester and useless survivor is such a handicap to town


Considering zero NKs so far we might not even be dealing with mafia but with a cult.

„we“ I mean

Or Wave actually protected me

which is like the simplest explanation

KISS


It doesn't matter if he did, if the wording for the heal in the QT is "protects from 1kp damage" then it's almost certain this is an hp game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:29 GMT
#1940
On January 13 2021 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 19:23 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 15:20 Vivax wrote:
The classical jester means everyone else loses when he gets lynched. I doubt that‘s in the game with me as 3p already. Maybe he just ‚wins‘ but the game goes on.

HF doesn‘t seem keen on lynching him in an agenda-y way


I've never seen a game end with jester being eliminated. Only them achieving a wincon.

Sure, this would also be my assumption. And since I was the first to entertain the jester option I would be right with you here but this ability really does not fit a jester. Or rather it helps a jester achieve his goal way too easily.


Clearly we're debating not killing him so it's not that easy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:32 GMT
#1945
I don't like how invested yamato is in solely eliminating shockey.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:34 GMT
#1947
I've already said who reads like mafia and I'm voting one of them. Even if shockey is mafia I wouldn't put it past this game to habe some bs mechanic for being voted out with how that power works.

Imagine not talking about mechanics in a themed game though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:39 GMT
#1955
On January 13 2021 19:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 19:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:29 yamato77 wrote:
The role and usage also make no sense for town really

What kind of town ability gives you extra votes but guarantees that mafia can get you to majority by themselves

Fair. But it is not very helpful as mafia either.

But it is! Mafia getting extra votes is so good. How can you not see that?

Sure, but mafia also does not want to get lynched, right? This makes it highly likely to get lynched. I would say the role is not really helpful to any alignment.

It depends on game state obviously. The writing was on the wall for him today, clearly, so he just used it because he figured he was going to die anyway

If he were not so likely to get lynched, using this ability and then voting late in the day to hide his voting strength is a strong mafia move that could literally sway a lynch and confuse the shit out of town

I made this point already though


Sounds really dumb to me. It would be almost trivial to see shockey joining a wagon and then 2 votes miraculously appearing. Unless you're saying he could activate it while already being on a wagon but then any shenanigan fucks him totally.

Sounds bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:42 GMT
#1961
On January 13 2021 19:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 19:39 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:35 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:29 yamato77 wrote:
The role and usage also make no sense for town really

What kind of town ability gives you extra votes but guarantees that mafia can get you to majority by themselves

Fair. But it is not very helpful as mafia either.

But it is! Mafia getting extra votes is so good. How can you not see that?

Sure, but mafia also does not want to get lynched, right? This makes it highly likely to get lynched. I would say the role is not really helpful to any alignment.

It depends on game state obviously. The writing was on the wall for him today, clearly, so he just used it because he figured he was going to die anyway

If he were not so likely to get lynched, using this ability and then voting late in the day to hide his voting strength is a strong mafia move that could literally sway a lynch and confuse the shit out of town

I made this point already though


Sounds really dumb to me. It would be almost trivial to see shockey joining a wagon and then 2 votes miraculously appearing. Unless you're saying he could activate it while already being on a wagon but then any shenanigan fucks him totally.

Sounds bad.

You're assuming there are votecounts between every vote, which is almost never the case

Are you really even thinking with your brain


Ah yes better make a mechanic that relies on lazy hosting at deadline.

Do you even read the words you write?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:44 GMT
#1964
What a ludicrous argument.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 11:43 GMT
#1977
On January 13 2021 20:32 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t think I can take anyone seriously who thinks dandel is mafia.

You‘re either superbaf or you‘re scum if you think that. He has too mich fun with the game and I don‘t thinkhe‘d do the fake role thing as scum.


Spoken like a true maybe not 3p
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