[N]A Mostly Normal Game of Mafia

Hapahauli has been providing critical thinking and has been very present this game. He's pushing his own ideas (suspicious of Grackaroni).

I admit I've been having some trouble reading Alakaslam this game. My toneread on him suggests that he is town, but his mayoral campaign has been a bit suspect as well.

I dunno. The recent game where he was mafia, he just came in and started sharing random thoughts and relevant reads. Here he's been much more joking but still somewhat connected to the thread. But the substance is really lacking. He's shared one suspicion (? if it's even that), one scumread (soon retracted), and one list post. And he said he'd have more time to play so he'd be sharing all his thoughts.

Beats me.

I stand by the points earlier about Grackaroni's response to me calling out his post. Even moreso than the initial post, his follow-up felt quite off. However, outside of that I could see Grackaroni being town this game. Really, the main other thing I find notable about his filter is that he hasn't really found anything suspicious, except for possibly my interaction with him (which he never really followed up on since then, only answering questions about it; in other words, he hasn't followed up his read on me, or tried to figure out my alignment since then). Despite having a mayoral campaign, he seems very unconcerned about who he wants to lynch.

He hasn't really said much at all. At least he does have a scumread (Fecalfeast), which is more than I can say for some others. But I'm unfortunately not confident in reading him given the low amount of content.

I thought there was more in Jockmcplop's filter, but while reading it through again, it's actually quite underwhelming. Jockmcplop presents exactly three ideas:

• Alakaslam's mayoral campaign is suspicious
  
• Grackaroni pointing it out makes him towny
  
• Trfel is inconsistent

While there are other things that have happened this game. Jockmcplop seems to have focused on Alakaslam and the things surrounding that, while not paying any attention to the rest of the thread (raynpelikoneet and Hapahauli's back and forth, specifically).

Jockmcplop's play has been pretty bleh so far. It's not terrible, but unremarkable and lacking the critical thinking, substance, and quality that he usually shows as town.

I'll start this off by saying that raynpelikoneet is very capable as mafia, in my opinion. With that said, he seems to not care a ton about his reads this game, especially his scumreads. It almost feels disconnected.

To clarify, I mentioned two points earlier about raynpelikoneet: his read on Alakaslam, and lack of stubbornness. I don't think those are very strong anymore, the timing of his read change on Alakaslam matches, and I will always understand/allow someone trying a different playstyle (given that the change isn't mafia motivated).

But his scumreads. First he was suspicious of Hapahauli, but when he was going to bed he posted about his townreads instead. And he didn't really discuss his read on Hapahauli much either. He's explained it of course, but he hasn't been pushing it, which confuses me. Maybe there's some reason why (as town) raynpelikoneet wouldn't want to pursue that at this time, but it's a trend with his other reads too. He is suspicious of ShoCkeyy for being disconnected and not following along (which to me at least is hard to tell, ShoCkeyy has a tendency to not contribute much substance, especially early on). And he is suspicious of Fecalfeast but I don't believe he ever said why. And he's unsure about me and Hapahauli. He later says that his reads are mostly POE, and acknowledges that ShoCkeyy doesn't have reads early on.

It just doesn't quite add up for me. He's campaigning to be mayor, but he's not really got any strong scumreads, just a POE. For a player who has been very present and has been sharing his thoughts, working off of a POE with near-instant townreads and not having solid reasons for scumreading lurkers seems very suspect.

I need to keep thinking about this but raynpelikoneet feels very present in this game, but uninvolved where it matters. Like he's managed to take a backseat despite constantly posting his thoughts. And I feel that that makes him more likely mafia.

Vivax on Fecalfeast:
So Vivax's posts on Fecalfeast aren't very convicting (in the sense that it doesn't look too suspicious for Vivax). I can understand him going back on a very early post like that.e

Vivax on Alakaslam:
Of note, it seems that Vivax is initially reading Alakaslam as scummy but this is as he is reading the thread. I assumed that this post:meant that Vivax had caught up, but I suppose it's possible that this is not true and Vivax is still not caught up at this time. If that is the case, then this argument becomes a lot weaker.I can kinda see him not wanting to kill Alakaslam, despite scumreading him, to kill a lurker instead. I guess... Maybe.Then there's this post, which I missed earlier. I suppose if it really took Vivax until here to be fully caught up, I'm surprised but it can make sense. However, given the number of posts criticizing Alakaslam earlier, I wonder why Vivax is no longer scumreading Alakaslam? Is the glance at Hapahauli meant to say that he's sheeping Hapahauli's townread, or what is this about? If not, what is it? If so, did Vivax just not see this earlier or what?

Vivax on Jockmcplop:
Not much changed in Jockmcplop's filter during this time, in fact Jockmcplop was just returning to the thread with some big catch-up posts by the time Vivax posted this second post.

Tictock was suspecting Hapahauli earlier. However, Hapahauli then fell out of his POE, which was Jockmcplop and ShoCkeyy:And says he doesn't like Hapahauli's case on Vivax:However, since this is most of what Hapahauli did, why did Tictock stop suspecting Hapahauli? For that matter, same about Vivax?Here, Tictock is suspicious of Hapahauli despite Hapahauli being an (at the time) un-cc'd blue.And this. If this is true, why did he post that he was still suspicious of Hapahauli?

As previously mentioned, I don't like how Vivax keeps throwing suspicion at Alakaslam for his first page of filter and then backs off when he's "caught up" for no other apparent reason.

This is pending an answer from Vivax.

Honestly that's my only real thought about Vivax's filter, at a quick glance anyway.

It's not blatantly scummy or anything, I just really don't like this progression. The wording at the end there too, "the roleblock thing seemed legit," feels off. Why wouldn't it be legitimate, and especially since this is Night 2, wouldn't it be "seems" instead of "seemed"? It feels like he's trying to come up with justifications for his reads instead of explain what he actually thinks. I know this is a slight thing, but it seems that everyone is playing well (scum included), so slight things are the best I have.