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slam:
Will do what town decides
grack:
TT
TT:
FeFe
Rayn:
FF or TT
Fefe:
TT maybe Shockeyy
Trfel:
me, shockeyy, FF, TT, Grack
We need to get this down to 2 candidates who are trusted by town.
Personally I would have one of grack/rayn as mayor and maybe slam as pardoner.
I will probably revote grack just because I think TT has been super lazy just picking something Fefe said on the first page and leaving that as his scumread for the whole time.
On November 26 2020 01:38 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 01:24 Vivax wrote:On November 26 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)
I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.
Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected. What's your take on Jock? His post about Trfel was a good one and I think he has the right view on Rayn. I'm not sure what his reasoning was for changing his mind on Slam.
Although I didn't think slam's campaign naturally made him town, i never scumread him and still don't.
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On November 26 2020 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm guessing you're going to vote for Trfel, Vivax?
Dunno, in theory we'd want someone with a good role + chance to be NKd early to be mayor.
I'm not that sure that you, Slam and Trfel fit into that picture. Trfel does have good reads as of late though, and he's the read I'm most confident in.
That said, I'll vote for him. But I think having to campaign is unnecessary. Everyone should just decide on their own.
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Ray jock vivax slam are my towns
The simple fact that many people want TT dead is troubling but TT only wants me dead so that's not much to help me change my mind on tt
I think jock is towny based on tone and effort but I am aware he's a capable scum player. This is me hedging my town read incase of future embarrassment
I honestly don't know at all what shockeyy has said or done but I'm going to continue scumleaning him for fun
My grack read was kneejerk based on the mayoral candidacy at the start. I have not revisited
I could probably make this post have a point or anything of substance but I'd rather not
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I apparently also don't have an opinion on hapa I guess I can fix that
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On November 25 2020 14:57 Trfel wrote:
@Fecalfeast, why can't Alakaslam have a fun tone as mafia, especially given that he much prefers the mafia alignment?
Why are you suspicious of Hapahauli?
Old metric that I have no idea if it still works but slam cares about winning as nashua which come across less fun.
Also good to know I actually did have an opinion on hapa
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On November 25 2020 07:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 06:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My concern is in his running post for mayor state this:
As your Mayor I pledge to CRUSH the "opposition“
He stated opposition instead of just stating mafia, which is the towns opposition. His opposition here could be town. Rayn this is basically my reasoning on why I don’t think Grack is a town player this game.
Hapa why does shockeyy make this post if he is mafia with Grackaroni?
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On November 26 2020 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 07:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 25 2020 06:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My concern is in his running post for mayor state this:
As your Mayor I pledge to CRUSH the "opposition“
He stated opposition instead of just stating mafia, which is the towns opposition. His opposition here could be town. Rayn this is basically my reasoning on why I don’t think Grack is a town player this game. Hapa why does shockeyy make this post if he is mafia with Grackaroni?
I do not build associations between early game scumreads. I lynch scummy people. Obviously if we lynch Grack and he flips mafia, then Shockeyy looks better.
On November 26 2020 01:14 Trfel wrote:
Hapahauli, can I ask why you think ShoCkeyy is less interested than normal? To me, in terms of the amount of substance/reads, he seems very typical to me. Or does it have to do with non-substance posting?
I think you are correct. Reading through his past games (particularly his scum game in Holy Guardians 2), he was doling out early game reads and attempting to contribute as mafia.
My sense from his play this game is that he's more likely to be 3p or town.
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Have you read any of my games?
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I still think Grack is mafia, although most others do not seem very receptive to it. I cannot say more than I already have had on it.
I would be OK with lynching TT. It is more of a pure lurker policy lynch thing though. And it is the path of least resistance. Which annoys me, but is not a D1 disaster.
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Ok foolish ones these people are all tied for two sussing them:
TT
FF
Grack
Jock
Please understand this makes my personal lynch pool TT or Jock. By preference TT, because warcraft too much.
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On November 26 2020 02:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Have you read any of my games?
Yes, I read a lot of them in Aperture. I will probably read them again. I was unable to draw any concrete conclusions from them. I am conscious of the fact that I did horribly misread you in all of Aperture, seemingly due to how "reactive" your playstyle is.
This game... you are this mix of pro-active (campaign) followed by re-active (not much in the way of reads). It is this dissonance that I think makes you mafia.
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If more people consolidate on wanting FF or Grack dead I would still lynch one of them. But if it’s a massive 4 way tie then I will choose TT.
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On November 26 2020 01:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm guessing you're going to vote for Trfel, Vivax? Dunno, in theory we'd want someone with a good role + chance to be NKd early to be mayor. I'm not that sure that you, Slam and Trfel fit into that picture. Trfel does have good reads as of late though, and he's the read I'm most confident in. That said, I'll vote for him. But I think having to campaign is unnecessary. Everyone should just decide on their own.
You can’t know perhaps the biggest part of this.
Anyway I am still campaigning and really feel like Trfel has been flying in the face of town sentiment; he susses people that basically no one else does.
Yet that’s true of almost everyone so meh, carry on making him mayor if we must.
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eh what the fuck?
On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.
Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences.
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On November 26 2020 02:22 Hapahauli wrote:
My sense from his (shockeyy) play this game is that he's more likely to be 3p or town.
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I would be OK with lynching TT. It is more of a pure lurker policy lynch thing though. And it is the path of least resistance. Which annoys me, but is not a D1 disaster.
First you basically called shockeyy mafia because he is a lurker and isnt doing anything, then you say he is town just because trfel thinks something... Then you call TT policy lurker lynch.
Why was TT not in your first list because for me it looks like you should be treating shockeyy and TT the same? And why does your opinion on shockeyy change like that? You have hosted probably 10 games where shockeyy has played, and you are the one that figured out shockeyy is mafia in "trfel help" game.... You should already know or have an idea how he plays, and definitely one sentence from Trfel should not change your mind COMPLETELY.
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Why are people not voting for Rayn?
As far as I can tell nobody really has Sus on him so it's weird to me that more ppl are not supporting him.
I kinda want to say I'd preffer mayor be between Rayn and Grack (as I also trust either to be pardoner), but thats a bit hard for me to say when Grack (as well as 90%) of the game want me dead.
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On November 26 2020 02:30 Hapahauli wrote:Yes, I read a lot of them in Aperture. I will probably read them again. I was unable to draw any concrete conclusions from them. I am conscious of the fact that I did horribly misread you in all of Aperture, seemingly due to how "reactive" your playstyle is. This game... you are this mix of pro-active (campaign) followed by re-active (not much in the way of reads). It is this dissonance that I think makes you mafia.
If that's what bothers you I try to run for mayor in pretty much every game that has one. This is the first time I've been seriously considered (it seems because you/Rayn both didn't really want it too badly.)
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I still have no idea why FF thinks his reads are whatever he said. I really dont know why he thinks anything, and it looks like he doesnt know himself even..
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Two reasons:
1) I forgot that there are OOC reasons for which Shockeyy could be less active (newborn);
2) I went back and read both Holy Guardians 2 and his more recent town games (Aperture, Cop 2, etc.) and reviewed his early game play in those games compared to this one. I for some reason had in my mind that he was much more active and engaged in his town games. That was simply not the case. And even in his scum-game, he was much more engaged than I remembered. The conclusion is that is inactivity is a null-tell. I would also feel that scum would be a bit more pressured to at least try to keep up appearances.
Also, it is incorrect that I "figured out" shockeyy at the end of Holy Guardians. That was actually Trfel, and I was largely influenced by his posting in the endgame. So naturally, I do listen and keep an open mind when he says something about Shockeyy's alignment.
Regarding TT, he was not on my lynch list, because I prefer lynching scummy people rather than lurkers. At this point, I am left with 1 person I believe is mafia, but no one seems to agree with my read. Pragmatically, I would prefer to lynch the Lurker as option 2, and I am merely stating my preference.
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Okay so why is FF not mafia, Hapa?
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