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On October 16 2020 07:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2020 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 16 2020 06:20 ruXxar wrote:On October 16 2020 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let me know when youre here ruxxar I'm here rayn, whats on your mind. Could you now tell me why you think Slam and Cake are town? Or/and can we discuss it? I mean, i am not saying that Damdred/Monadel is the most likely mafia team, i just hope you get that i dont want to rush to shit decisions just because ???? Sure. Coppy I think is town because my short experience with her from recent mafia / town side, feels different. Her attitude is genuine and happy, not confrontational and annoying. I do not think Coppy shoots GB as mafia when GB had her as top town. She also have like 90% of the same opinons as me, and not in a "im sheeping you way". When I asked for her opinion on monadel and I got this answer: Show nested quote +On October 14 2020 19:31 CopCake wrote:On October 14 2020 19:24 ruXxar wrote:
What do you think of monadel coppy?
Im starting to think he might be a slam dunk mafia. I agree, taking out my “wild guess” 1.- So far from what I have played with him he looks like a very experienced players, uses all this fancy words from the game like PoE and so on. 2.- I consider him smart, in the way of few actions but with then being meaningful, like when he told us to shut up so we dont give info to mafia to figure out who is the doctor, also when he was being cautious who was the real cop between shockey and me. 3.- He asked for my meta, like... it is odd? A bit? To me he is acting to pretend to solve the game but actually not caring. She basically took my thoughts and put them into words. ---- Slam is a harder case for me to crack. He's been active enough to draw attention, but he hasnt been trying to steer the the ship off course. His opinions in general seem like they are his own, and he's not resisting the town opinon. It's overwhelmingly likely there is a mafia in damdred/monadel. If let's say the other mafia was in one of us 4 (rayn, cop, slam, me), then I would expect there to be SOME form of pusback to our current aligning opinion. Seeing as none of us are really trying to change that opinion, my reason is that they are either going for a total separation strategy where they've ditched each other, hoping that one of them gets enough town cred to carry, or the simpler conclusion that mafia are monadel/damdred.
You are most likely right in your final conclusion, i agree. Can you see my point though?
If Slam is mafia, with let's say Monadel, it's very easy for him to put blame on Damdred. I dont say "ohhh slam is mafia because he killed gb and now he is pushing a lynch on damdred", because it's a shit case, but it's still POSSIBLE. And you or i cant tell if it is true or not, because if slam is mafia with NOT damdred (which he definitely isn't), that's exactly what he did.
We can disagree with our reads on Cake. I dont see it as the same way you do, i can be wrong for sure, i admit that. But the worst thing here, during D2, she has done, is that when i wanted to talk about reads on people who are not Damdred/Monadel, she suddenly called me mafia with Monadel. I can understand if someone thinks i am mafia with Monadel, but the thread sentiment atm was that both you and Slam wanted to lynch Damdred. I can even understand that if i am mafia with Monadel it could be beneficial to not push the lynch on Damdred, but i can't understand the fact that it NEVER EVER crosses her mind that if i am mafia with Monadel i should be perfectly happy with you and Slam voting for Damdred, then just hammer and win. Think about it, you did that in game 2. You got figured out instantly by GB and i think you knew you would, but it's the best play. It never crosses Cake's mind that rayn+monadel does the best play there is, yet she calls me mafia with monadel because i am too good to be alive (start of D1)???? Ugh... it just doesnt sit right with me, it is just... i dont even fucking know....
The game where you were mafia in, after i got killed, Cake tried to argue that i did something (why i fake claimed) because of something i said was untrue, and when i flipped, she STILL "believed" i did it because of what SHE had portrayed. It's fucking insane in my opinion, like someone is confirmed flipped town and you still try to say he is lying?!?!?!?! Idk, i see a lot of similarities in her behavior here. I can see her doing that as town, i just hope it's not that. But the thread says unfortunately she probably is.  I dont find that good play at all.
Can you at least understand what i am saying and where i am coming from?
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It's like if i said "hahaha GB didn't actually think Damdred is mafia".
How is that fucking possible even?
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oh and the read on monadel early. why even put 1 and 2 there? they dont mean anything. her 1 is even completely bs. 3 is a fair point, i saw that as an overly-explained read.
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Like it's really easy (Cake even played in the first game):
On September 03 2020 11:02 Monadel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2020 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:On September 03 2020 10:49 Monadel wrote:
hi
/in Hello! Are you new to mafia, new to the forum, or a smurf account? No wrong answer. Played mafia but new to forum mafia and this forum. Hope that's alright
On October 14 2020 19:31 CopCake wrote:
1.- So far from what I have played with him he looks like a very experienced players, uses all this fancy words from the game like PoE and so on
Very experienced player in forum mafia indeed, took my memory to work to get that. For anyone else, take a look at the game he first played. How can you EVER even call (based on any game here) that Monadel is experienced? Because he knows what PoE means???? roflmao 
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I am sorry, i need to continue this tomorrow, now i am actually getting angry.
Because i put a lot of work into this game, even when i should not, and my shit is dismissed because someone is fluffy or looks more squirtle than any other pokemon or whatever shit, and then it's approved.
If Damdred and monadel dont post we lynch there. Period. If they post, we re-evaluate.
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On October 16 2020 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are most likely right in your final conclusion, i agree. Can you see my point though?
If Slam is mafia, with let's say Monadel, it's very easy for him to put blame on Damdred. I dont say "ohhh slam is mafia because he killed gb and now he is pushing a lynch on damdred", because it's a shit case, but it's still POSSIBLE. And you or i cant tell if it is true or not, because if slam is mafia with NOT damdred (which he definitely isn't), that's exactly what he did.
Yes, this is what would happen if slam was mafia with someone else than damdred.
It's a good logical deduction and would hold merit if slam was a scum suspect, but the same could be said for any constellation where damdred isnt mafia.
On October 16 2020 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:We can disagree with our reads on Cake. I dont see it as the same way you do, i can be wrong for sure, i admit that. But the worst thing here, during D2, she has done, is that when i wanted to talk about reads on people who are not Damdred/Monadel, she suddenly called me mafia with Monadel. I can understand if someone thinks i am mafia with Monadel, but the thread sentiment atm was that both you and Slam wanted to lynch Damdred. I can even understand that if i am mafia with Monadel it could be beneficial to not push the lynch on Damdred, but i can't understand the fact that it NEVER EVER crosses her mind that if i am mafia with Monadel i should be perfectly happy with you and Slam voting for Damdred, then just hammer and win. Think about it, you did that in game 2. You got figured out instantly by GB and i think you knew you would, but it's the best play. It never crosses Cake's mind that rayn+monadel does the best play there is, yet she calls me mafia with monadel because i am too good to be alive (start of D1)???? Ugh... it just doesnt sit right with me, it is just... i dont even fucking know.... The game where you were mafia in, after i got killed, Cake tried to argue that i did something (why i fake claimed) because of something i said was untrue, and when i flipped, she STILL "believed" i did it because of what SHE had portrayed. It's fucking insane in my opinion, like someone is confirmed flipped town and you still try to say he is lying?!?!?!?! Idk, i see a lot of similarities in her behavior here. I can see her doing that as town, i just hope it's not that. But the thread says unfortunately she probably is. I dont find that good play at all. Can you at least understand what i am saying and where i am coming from?
1) You're right about the the game I played as mafia where I hammered you. I thought it would be the best shot we had at winning the game, and counted my blessings when I had that chance.
I knew I was 99% likely to be figured out after, but the odds were so good in our favor that I'm certain it was the right play and I would do it again.
2) The best mafia strategy is to try to get town on board a train, and then hammer when possible, even at the cost of their own life afterwards.
It baffles me that noone is trying to pile on my damdred vote right now. It tells me that either he's mafia and they don't want to get the train going, or they will pounce on the vote as soon as one other town puts down their vote.
Overall I understand where you're coming from. If you are mafia, you are just hoping to get any mislynch right now.
If damdred or monadel is town, you would at least try to push a bit harder to get him lynched if you are mafia.
Town sentinment is now 4 people thinking monadel and damdred are mafia. If mafia is outside damdred/monadel theres no better time for mafia to put down their vote on either damdred or monadel to try to nudge the vote in the direction of the guy who isnt mafia of the two.
The fact that this isnt happening strengthens my belief that we are right on the money.
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heh, anyone who is mafia is hoping for a mislynch right now.
you are right about the town sentiment. what do you want to do?
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I still dont really like noone is even willing to say anything about what i say :/
why do i even try to read people if it goes to just dead ears..
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It is especially annoying when you can prove your point and noone is even willing to listen to the point you have proven to be true (regardless of it actually makes someone mafia or not).
Why do i even play this game?
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I dont care, let's see if Damdred is mafia.
##vote Dmadred
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Sorry the baby has been quite needy the past 24 hours and truthfully my full attention was at that rather then this game.
First I want to say some WIFOM things that I won't discuss again but several people in this thread should know (maybe two actually). If I was scum with Monadel I would bus him into the ground non-stop.bor if I was going to be too afk I would tell him to. It doesn't matter that the game would go on longer, cred until the sun sets without a cop.
The second is even stronger wifom, I wouldn't of shot GB. GB being the cop is irrelevant to this argument. Rayn should be able to attest I shoot people as scum who can solve the game not necessarily who scum read me. Which means I don't shoot gb night one.
Now that stupid wifom is out of the way, the case on me is paper thin. Gb suspected him and is dead....ok not much of a point.
Damdred isn't here he's trying to out distance. That's a dumb read, associative reads are kinda meh, I've had little interaction with anyone. You guys are drawing connections where there isn't any to try to form a team.
Damdred dodged a question, actually I think I had already give some reads. I think GB question is dumb and I refuse to answer stuff all the time if I feel like stuff is dumb or I don't care to answer it
Overall the case on me is pretty thin.
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Ok let's see if I am
##vote Dadred
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Ok rayn is confirmed not mafia.
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Give me something then? Anything?
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On October 16 2020 08:35 Dadred wrote:
Ok rayn is confirmed not mafia.
literally one second away from computer.
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I think you and slam are town for sure.
So two of three of ruxx/cop/mon.
I don't like how ruxx is pushing suspicion this game
Cop is playing super aggressive
Mon lacks some smart posts
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what do you mean with ruxx?
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On October 16 2020 08:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what do you mean with ruxx?
Like with ruxx for instance I feel like he flipped pretty quick on me with the GB kill. And it seems like his push lines up with thread sentiment rather than his own thoughts.
It does not seem natural the shift from hard defending me to gb to hard scum reading me.
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did he do that? i need to look for it lol
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EPT
