[M][N]Oil Futures Mafia - Page 58

On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:
No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again.

And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong.

Bleh, confusing game hurts my head

On May 04 2020 02:43 Vivax wrote:
It feels kinda odd to lynch into Jock/Shockeyy again after they were both mafia in my last game. Gambler's fallacy and all, but seriously. What are the odds of them rolling both mafia together twice in a row :|

Shockeyy, Grack is bringing up some strong points, especially the overconfidence. You just seem to be stuck in your story and don't want to look who could be scum besides Koshi imo.

If you're town and telling the truth though, the best you can do is literally just to do your best to guess who the fuck the other mason was, because if he doesn't come out now he's almost guaranteed to be mafia.

I think it's worth bringing Slam and Chez to the table too. Both were full time doing claim shenannies and I wouldn't put it past them to be just that bold as scum.

On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:


Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey?

On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:
I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts).

When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means.

On May 04 2020 02:52 GlowingBear wrote:


?

Why would we bring them to the table if there's so much more reasons to lynch Shockey right now?
Do you think Shockey is town?

On May 04 2020 02:59 Trfel wrote:
The other thing is, Jockmcplop seemed like a decent lynch when I reread his filter.

He hasn't really been pushing his own ideas, most of his posts are just commentary on other people's posts. It feels like he is "thread police," posting about the validity of other people's ideas, not making his own. And that scares me a lot.

I don't know For now I think the difference is I don't want to vote with GlowingBear.
##unvote
##vote Jockmcplop

On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:


You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey?

On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:
Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter.

@Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then.

On May 04 2020 03:06 Vivax wrote:
I think we always kill Shockeyy here with the mason claim.

If he lied, it's one scum down.
If he told the truth and chez doesn't confirm the claim before the flip, we lynch chez.

Guaranteed to have one mafia, no?

##Unvote
##Vote Shockeyy

On May 04 2020 03:12 GlowingBear wrote:


I don't get it. Why chez?

On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:


Alright. Assuming you're town:

I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me.
EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2.
When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia.
But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing?
You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL.
This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work.

On May 04 2020 03:15 Vivax wrote:


Because Shockeyy siad he thinks it's Chez?
Need to take it at face value if he doesn't give more info.

On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:
I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite.