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Okay, I'm not confident enough in my own read, might as well sheep everyone else/consolidate.
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On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again. And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear  But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong. Bleh, confusing game hurts my head Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey? I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts). When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means. You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey? Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter. @Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then. Alright. Assuming you're town: I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me. EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2. When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia. But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing? You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL. This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work. I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite.
I think the night kill says that mafia don't feel intimated by Rayn/Koshi. I'd expect one of them to be scum tbh, but if GB is mafia with neither of them then he made a really ballsy choice to leave them both in. If they both put in their town play Rayn/Koshi could come together and give GB hell for a second cycle in a row.
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Welp I hope my death isn’t in vain, but y’all seem fucked if you don’t see Koshi or slam as mafia. Looks like Slam is waiting till last few mins to vote anybody off as well.
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On May 04 2020 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:
intimidated
It was funnier before
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On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again. And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong. Bleh, confusing game hurts my head Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey? I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts). When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means. You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey? Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter. @Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then. Alright. Assuming you're town: I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me. EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2. When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia. But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing? You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL. This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work. I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite. Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me. So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL. It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia.
I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia.
I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then.
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On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again. And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong. Bleh, confusing game hurts my head Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey? I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts). When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means. You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey? Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter. @Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then. Alright. Assuming you're town: I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me. EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2. When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia. But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing? You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL. This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work. I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite. Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me. So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL. It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia. I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia. I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then.
He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him.
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On May 04 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again. And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong. Bleh, confusing game hurts my head Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey? I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts). When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means. You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey? Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter. @Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then. Alright. Assuming you're town: I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me. EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2. When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia. But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing? You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL. This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work. I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite. Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me. So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL. It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia. I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia. I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then. He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him.
That's not a bullshit perspective. You said mafia tried to do something and when someone acts just like you said mafia tried to do you don't scumread them.
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GB is literally doing what he claimed Koshi was doing about taking his words and turning them into something else. Half the questions GB asked me was answered earlier in the thread. So the story is the same.
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I'll give this another look really quick.
+ Show Spoiler +
I know some people are saying Jock is re-evaluating the game after the FF flip but i don't really see it. I honestly first thouhg Jock is town because why would he kill FF, his scumread (unless GB is mafia too -- but right now i don't expect that to be true). Just look at Jock's re-evaluation:
- First he says he needs to re-evaluate things because FF his scumread died
- He never evaluates GB, which is the first thing he should do
- The he says he need to reread Shockeyy because "a lot of alignments depend on Shockeyys" (i dont even understand why he thinks that because he never explains anything about it)
- But he doesn't really reread Shockeyy on any level, he just comes back with some random posts and says that Shockeyy is town because ??? and Koshi and Shockeyy are opposing alignments and because of a BAD post Shockeyy made on Koshi that could make him think Shockeyy actually could be mafia but without no investigation on that ever in the game he just ends up on Shockeyy being town again and Koshi being mafia.
- Basically he never re-evaluated anything and just ended up with whatever he had before the night kill. That's literally ALL his posts during D2 so basically he hasn't done anything lol.
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FYI Fecalfeast's last scumreads were;
GB (which he even backed off a little bit), Slam, Shockeyy, Grack (who is town) and Chezinu (who is blue).
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On May 04 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey? I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts). When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means. You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey? Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter. @Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then. Alright. Assuming you're town: I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me. EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2. When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia. But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing? You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL. This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work. I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite. Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me. So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL. It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia. I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia. I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then. He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him. That's not a bullshit perspective. You said mafia tried to do something and when someone acts just like you said mafia tried to do you don't scumread them.
Wait what? Why would I read GB as mafia if I said he got framed... that makes no sense.
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On May 04 2020 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FYI Fecalfeast's last scumreads were;
GB (which he even backed off a little bit), Slam, Shockeyy, Grack (who is town) and Chezinu (who is blue).
How do you know chez is blue? I know he claimed about visiting some one right?
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On May 04 2020 03:22 Trfel wrote:
Okay, I'm not confident enough in my own read, might as well sheep everyone else/consolidate.
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy
Cool 
Now we just lynch Shockey day3
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On May 04 2020 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:22 Trfel wrote:
Okay, I'm not confident enough in my own read, might as well sheep everyone else/consolidate.
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy Cool Now we just lynch Trfel day3
Fixed.
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On May 04 2020 03:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB is literally doing what he claimed Koshi was doing about taking his words and turning them into something else. Half the questions GB asked me was answered earlier in the thread. So the story is the same.
I'm not. I've pressured you to see if your story made sense. And it doesn't.
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It does, you just chose to ignore that it makes sense.
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On May 04 2020 03:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 04 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:[quote]I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts). When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means. You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey? Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter. @Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then. Alright. Assuming you're town: I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me. EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2. When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia. But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing? You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL. This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work. I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite. Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me. So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL. It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia. I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia. I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then. He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him. That's not a bullshit perspective. You said mafia tried to do something and when someone acts just like you said mafia tried to do you don't scumread them. Wait what? Why would I read GB as mafia if I said he got framed... that makes no sense.
You really dont even realise what you did, do you?
You said mafia framed GB for lynch D2. Trfel is the only player trying to push GB's lynch D2. You don't think Trfel is mafia. Ring any bells? Your don't stick to your own story because if mafia is trying to frame GB you should automatically at least heavily consider Trfel being mafia for TRYING TO FRAME GB.. Obviously Trfel isn't stupid enough to jsut come to the thread and say "hey now we need to lynch GB because FF thought he was mafia and FF died", no, he is gonna do it in some more subtle way (let's say like exactly he did). Yet you care zero amounts of the only person who even remotely looks like he is trying to follow up on framing GB.....
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Shit I overslept. Yesterday was the first day back with my wife out of quarantine. We behaved accordingly and I just woke ip and was like
“... oh, it’s almost noon... why is that important again?”
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