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ShoCkeyy
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Hapahauli
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ShoCkeyy
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Hapahauli
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BloodyC0bbler
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On April 07 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote: What are you stuck on? your pressure clearly. | ||
ShoCkeyy
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On April 06 2020 15:30 Trfel wrote: Actually though, what if it is Chezinu? When he's town I'm used to him posting some relevant information/reads. Obviously in his own Chezinu way, but they are there. This game he is voting for (iirc) Jockmcplop, but I couldn't understand why, does anyone know why? Chezinu this game just feels very different from previous games where he's been town. Still awesome and funny, but different. I'll try and read a previous Chezinu mafia game or two. On April 06 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote: The most recent Chezinu mafia game I could find was six years old. And in that game he was more focused on providing reads, not less. So there goes that idea. It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by. On April 07 2020 02:15 Hapahauli wrote: You realize that Chez only did two things this game: hard-bus his scumbuddy and give us a wonderful steak recipe... right? Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why? | ||
ShoCkeyy
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BloodyC0bbler
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Is it same to state that we both have Shockeyy as possible red? Is it also safe to say we both currently list Vivax and Trfel as town reads? I know you have Rayn listed as scum over Chez. Any particular reason you think chez is safe from general suspicion at this moment in time? | ||
Hapahauli
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On April 07 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: It deals with Chezinu, and how he positions himself to be the first to kill Jock, then I ran into this post by Trfel starting to question Chez as well. It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by. Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why? I don't think anyone truly has a grasp on how Chez plays. I personally feel it is difficult to entertain Chez's alignment until some of the more plausible scummers are dead. Occam's razor works for now - the most plausible explanation is that he's town, regardless of how random the vote is. Also, I don't quite get this: Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why? Where did I say I didn't want to discuss Chez? In my long list-o-reads, I state something along the lines of I am not looking at Chez, because I am discounting the chance of "sophisticated" mafia plays (i.e. hard bus plays) due to how Jock was posting. | ||
Hapahauli
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On April 07 2020 09:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also Hap. Remove the fact we both think eachother are red. Is it same to state that we both have Shockeyy as possible red? Is it also safe to say we both currently list Vivax and Trfel as town reads? I know you have Rayn listed as scum over Chez. Any particular reason you think chez is safe from general suspicion at this moment in time? Shockey is certainly a plausible red. Vivax and Trfel are hard town reads, and they have been since Day 1. Rayn is a stronger town read than Chez. My "reads" post is not necessarily in order. Rather, it categorizes players I would not lynch, vs. players I would consider lynching. Fact is though, I'm not considering lynching anyone other than you tomorrow. | ||
ShoCkeyy
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On April 07 2020 09:11 Hapahauli wrote: I don't think anyone truly has a grasp on how Chez plays. I personally feel it is difficult to entertain Chez's alignment until some of the more plausible scummers are dead. Occam's razor works for now - the most plausible explanation is that he's town, regardless of how random the vote is. Also, I don't quite get this: Where did I say I didn't want to discuss Chez? In my long list-o-reads, I state something along the lines of I am not looking at Chez, because I am discounting the chance of "sophisticated" mafia plays (i.e. hard bus plays) due to how Jock was posting. Is that not what you meant with the line here? Chez, Trfel, and Vivax are in the do not lynch category. All of them had the opportunity to save their "teammate" but chose not to. If there is a bus play, we can explore that at LYLO. K now I gotta go, be back in like an hour at least. | ||
Hapahauli
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On April 07 2020 09:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: Is that not what you meant with the line here? K now I gotta go, be back in like an hour at least. Ah yes. Same answer. I am not considering Chez until we have explored more plausible options. Doing so would be purely tinfoil on a player known for "randomness" and relative unreadability. Occam's razor. | ||
BloodyC0bbler
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On April 07 2020 09:13 Hapahauli wrote: Shockey is certainly a plausible red. Vivax and Trfel are hard town reads, and they have been since Day 1. Rayn is a stronger town read than Chez. My "reads" post is not necessarily in order. Rather, it categorizes players I would not lynch, vs. players I would consider lynching. Fact is though, I'm not considering lynching anyone other than you tomorrow. Not saying you have to consider it tomorrow. I am more operating from the. "hey if we are both town tunneling the fuck out of eachother, lets see what we can do to make it easier to solve after the fact" Cause straight up. I die I flip green, likely hood is town then lynches you. If you get lynched over me and flip green then I am deff lynched the day after. Pretty sure mathematically the Mafia wins at that point. | ||
Hapahauli
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On April 07 2020 09:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Not saying you have to consider it tomorrow. I am more operating from the. "hey if we are both town tunneling the fuck out of eachother, lets see what we can do to make it easier to solve after the fact" Cause straight up. I die I flip green, likely hood is town then lynches you. If you get lynched over me and flip green then I am deff lynched the day after. Pretty sure mathematically the Mafia wins at that point. I'm not worried about my ability to spew town at LYLO, if that's what you're getting at. Nor am I worried about my ability to railroad this lynch against you. I'm wiling to entertain the conversation though. Why are Shockey and/or Chez more likely to flip scum than you? | ||
Chezinu
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On April 07 2020 07:49 ShoCkeyy wrote: I don't think Rayn is mafia, he's a head strong player when he's town, and I can see it in him. Jock though first went for trfel, then rayn, then me, then you. BC on the other hand is interesting. He voted for you first. That's my biggest scum tell this game. BC/Jock does seem like a possible team when Jock leaned on you last. The only other conclusion I can come up with is that, Jock knew he scum slipped and told Chez to vote him instantly to keep Chez safe. Very tinfoiling but this is mafia, you never fucking know anymore... OOC: But why would Chez listen to his teammates?!?!? | ||
Chezinu
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On April 07 2020 09:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Not saying you have to consider it tomorrow. I am more operating from the. "hey if we are both town tunneling the fuck out of eachother, lets see what we can do to make it easier to solve after the fact" Cause straight up. I die I flip green, likely hood is town then lynches you. If you get lynched over me and flip green then I am deff lynched the day after. Pretty sure mathematically the Mafia wins at that point. MOM!!! What is up with the pool!??!? Why is it green? Why does it have a barbed wired fence around it? | ||
BloodyC0bbler
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Not saying he hasn't had migraines but I also remember people faking moving / random other life stuff as scum to avoid posting in game. Chez is honestly a mixture of 2 things. Last few games ive played with him, as town, hes at least helpful in his flavour posting. You can clearly see what he wants. So far this game flavour wise, the only thing he has wanted to do was kill Andrezza. To drop a vote (never change said vote) and manage to make that specific person die is pretty lucky no? I may have bias because his steak cooking method made me die inside. | ||
Chezinu
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Can I have Andrezza's room? | ||
BloodyC0bbler
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On April 07 2020 09:27 Chezinu wrote: MOM!!! What is up with the pool!??!? Why is it green? Why does it have a barbed wired fence around it? You were defiling my kitchen again. Have to punish you somehow. | ||
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