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raynpelikoneet
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August 12 2019 09:12 GMT
#31
/in
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raynpelikoneet
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August 13 2019 11:56 GMT
#34
we play with 9 ppl or?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 14 2019 02:16 GMT
#43
I don't think any open setup is quite balanced. I'd just closed setup with 0-2 blues and set set mafia role(s) accordingly.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 14 2019 03:24 GMT
#45
I dont really care what you do. Just lmk if you do the vengeful shot so i can out.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 14 2019 07:24 GMT
#49
/conf
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raynpelikoneet
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August 14 2019 08:54 GMT
#50
Slam if you add Squishy you can make 8v2 and give mafia 2x NK night 3.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 14 2019 18:18 GMT
#57
Next poll you add i am out.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 16 2019 19:28 GMT
#71
On August 17 2019 03:34 Alakaslam wrote:
I actually haven’t received any wotc mail

I'd wotc anyone who would wotc anyone.
Game is game.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 05:42 GMT
#86
Ahahaha Vivax you should do that every game slam hosts ^^
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 05:43 GMT
#87
On August 17 2019 14:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
deadline is perfect for me specifically and I didn't even ask for it thanks slam

I am pretty sure i aint gonna be around any deadline
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 05:44 GMT
#88
Will you play like you did last game FF?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 11:38 GMT
#99
On August 17 2019 14:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 14:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahahaha Vivax you should do that every game slam hosts ^^


Special tactics :>

Are you mafia rayn?

No i am not.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 17:07 GMT
#117
I dont understand what hanging around elsewhere in TL has anything to do with anyones alignment?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 17:32 GMT
#122
On August 18 2019 02:25 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 18 2019 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand what hanging around elsewhere in TL has anything to do with anyones alignment?


Well I just compared his post history in the general forum to his list of games in the mafia database and there are zero posts when he is playing as mafia and plenty when he's town.
I'm not going to try this with each specific area of tl.net cos I can't be bothered.
Call it bullshit if you want but it makes perfect sense to me. He's eager to play as town and is browsing tl.net while waiting for something to happen in thread, he doesn't do that as mafia.

That's how it seems to me anyway.

Okay that makes more sense. Just to clarify i dont hate the read i just didnt know if i liked the reasoning.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 17:53 GMT
#127
And why is that?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 18:00 GMT
#131
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
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On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 18:08 GMT
#136
On August 18 2019 03:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.


Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that.

Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice.

I really dont know tbh. I am doing my own thing and i dont really care what other people think. For the record youre never going to figure out my alignment with some reaction test.

Youre town and Cake is probably town. Thats pretty much all i have at this point and i am out with a friend so thats most likely all i will have today.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 18:34 GMT
#137
On August 18 2019 03:04 CopCake wrote:
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On August 18 2019 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:42 CopCake wrote:
I feel pretty so I am town

So is that Vivax meta?


Pretty much. He's usually afk day 1 as scum. Not conftown but its a solid meta lean and its the best info we have so far given that nothing else is happening in the thread


Ah, yes, I can easily see how his 4 posts look like activity :D



This post, to me it looked like sarcasm and if it is not I don’t understand how you guys can use “meta” to excuse someone who is also aware of how people see him. If I rolled mafia and I knew I had a pattern of how I play as mafia I would try to do my “town game”.

Vivax doesnt do his town game as mafia. Your perception of HF is no good.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 18:51 GMT
#139
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?
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August 17 2019 18:59 GMT
#142
On August 18 2019 03:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


Didn't say it was mafia cake - I'm trying to figure out where she's coming from. If she wants to townread a guy because she agrees with a single sarcastic comment he made then fine but I'm wondering if there's more to it than that or not.

Didnt she say where she is coming from?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 19:02 GMT
#143
On August 18 2019 03:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


What do you mean who cares. It should be obvious to any townie that right now the game is pretty stale, Jock is trying to move it forward cause he feels it too (wildly guessing). This is also mafia-y from you. You don't recognize the game's situation from what I think is a townie point of view and make it all about the content in jocks post.

No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read.

You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 19:09 GMT
#146
I cant really. I have played with her three times as mafia, two of them where i was mafia as well and i dont really read my scumbuddies posts, and the third time was the time we actually "met" the first time.

But i can say i would ve really surprised if she makes a read based on "bs" reasoning when she doesnt have to.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 19:19 GMT
#149
On August 18 2019 04:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


Didn't say it was mafia cake - I'm trying to figure out where she's coming from. If she wants to townread a guy because she agrees with a single sarcastic comment he made then fine but I'm wondering if there's more to it than that or not.

Didnt she say where she is coming from?

Yes but it doesn't make much sense. We're supposed to townread everyone if we agree with a few sarcastic words they post? No-one would realistically think that so I'm seeing if there was anything else behind her reasoning.
Do you think I'm mafia for asking the question or are you just being annoying for no reason?

I am going to answer you when i get home. Rn i am out so i dont really care to write big posts.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 19:48 GMT
#152
I liked killing tina as mafia because i know she hates that
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 19:49 GMT
#153
I am telling you vivax is town though regardless of my alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 20:06 GMT
#161
On August 18 2019 04:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


What do you mean who cares. It should be obvious to any townie that right now the game is pretty stale, Jock is trying to move it forward cause he feels it too (wildly guessing). This is also mafia-y from you. You don't recognize the game's situation from what I think is a townie point of view and make it all about the content in jocks post.

No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read.

You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant.


Why couldn't she do it if HF is town? Is there a cake mafia meta where she hard defends teammates?

Would you make that read if youre mafia and hf is town?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 20:19 GMT
#171
Yeah you did.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 20:47 GMT
#179
I guess no town circle this game.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 21:12 GMT
#180
I'd like to shit on vivax and his vote but i know its wrong so i cant
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raynpelikoneet
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August 17 2019 22:09 GMT
#182
I think HF is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:16 GMT
#340
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:23 GMT
#344
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 19 2019 03:26 GMT
#346
Chezinu is probably mafia too. He usually uses stuff to make something happen out of it, or like, there is some reason why he posts cryptic stuff he does, and i don't see anything but some posts that don't intend to do anything.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:29 GMT
#351
##vote Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:29 GMT
#352
I dont think this game will end well for the town though.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:49 GMT
#365
On August 19 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Rayn talk to me if you are town.

About what?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:53 GMT
#372
I also don't know where HF defended sq
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:54 GMT
#373
...squishy in that big post everyone talked about.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:54 GMT
#375
Holy shit he even said so himself... :O
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 03:58 GMT
#380
On August 19 2019 12:54 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Rayn talk to me if you are town.

About what?


Am I wrong with FF?

read his posts and progression, ignore he agrees with you with HF and chezinu, read him.

I don't understand why you are even scumreading him.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 04:08 GMT
#386
I dont think that makes FF mafia because apparently every other player in the game (even HF himself lol) seem to be somehow thinking HF defended squishy....
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 04:13 GMT
#392
FF on cake:
Can you explain what you mean here? How do you know an inactive must be blue and where did I indicate that I thought that?

How dfoes this make anyone mafia. Yeah it's a really stuoid comment but if Cake is mafia she has no information of who is blue and who is not (actually even less than if she is town) so i don't see who this can make anyone mafia.

Using 'most of you' to discredit my read on him when I've not expressed interest in lynching an inactive is odd to me and reads like a defense of chezinu rather than an attack on my read.

I think this is a reasonable comment. I don't think it makes you mafia but i can see why a townie would think like this and there is pretty much nothing wrong in the thought process. She is basically asking you why do you put Chezinu into your scum pile and not the other inactive people WHEN OTHER PEOPLE have expressed interest into lynching inactives. Regardless of if you said you want to or dont want to lynch inactives this very well COULD be a mafia thing to do. Basically at that point Chezinu has posted just as much content than anyone with 0 posts so basically he is an inactive.

This could be rephrased as "I disagree that quishy is scummy because: " instead of using your read on squishy as an attack on my unrelated read on squishy.

That's just wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 04:21 GMT
#394
You're right but that doesn't make FF mafia.
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August 19 2019 04:27 GMT
#398
On August 19 2019 13:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On August 19 2019 13:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FF on cake:
Can you explain what you mean here? How do you know an inactive must be blue and where did I indicate that I thought that?

How dfoes this make anyone mafia. Yeah it's a really stuoid comment but if Cake is mafia she has no information of who is blue and who is not (actually even less than if she is town) so i don't see who this can make anyone mafia.

Using 'most of you' to discredit my read on him when I've not expressed interest in lynching an inactive is odd to me and reads like a defense of chezinu rather than an attack on my read.

I think this is a reasonable comment. I don't think it makes you mafia but i can see why a townie would think like this and there is pretty much nothing wrong in the thought process. She is basically asking you why do you put Chezinu into your scum pile and not the other inactive people WHEN OTHER PEOPLE have expressed interest into lynching inactives. Regardless of if you said you want to or dont want to lynch inactives this very well COULD be a mafia thing to do. Basically at that point Chezinu has posted just as much content than anyone with 0 posts so basically he is an inactive.

This could be rephrased as "I disagree that quishy is scummy because: " instead of using your read on squishy as an attack on my unrelated read on squishy.

That's just wrong.

1:
This post is a direct reply to copcake. She is insinuating that I think there's a blue in the AFKs because I disagree with the opposite (there being no blues in the AFKs). She then uses the fact that she actually DOES think there's a blue in the AFKs (what you are saying doesn't make her mafia) and that since we agree on that, it's odd for me to scumread her.
This makes her mafia as a whole because she's using a perceived inconsistency in my thoughts to call herself towny.


2:
I didn't read her post like that and if you're correct then it doesn't make her scummy.

3:
Elaborate please, I think it's not wrong

1. You're in fact right and she should answer that.

3. She just elaborated on the whole squishy/HF scheme and imo it makes sense from her end. I know unflipped associations arent a good thing to do but i also find out her questioning on the matter reasonable for a townie.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 04:29 GMT
#399
On August 19 2019 13:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 13:20 CopCake wrote:
I have read HF's filter several times and I don't see where he actually defends squishy.

The closest thing is this:

On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax




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On August 19 2019 00:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:26 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 22:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 19:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'all need to start playing some mafia cos I have no idea who needs to get lynched right now. Mafia can just hide if 50% of the players have gone missing.


We can just vote reps for catching up on like 3 pages and posting one off hand comment and leaving again. Easy.

Do mafia do that or are they more likely to stay quiet?


Post nothing and get modkilled or what? Feigned activity saying you're catching up and not posting anything? That's bad.


Explain to me how drawing attention to himself in that manner is mafialike.

I get that its bad.


I don't really understand this post either. What do you expect him to do as mafia if he has made 0 posts in the thread? He would get modkilled, or at least warned. He's forced to contribute by virtue of the game and since there is very little content in the thread (there is SOME) it would be hard for mafia to pin accusations on literally anyone. Which is why it's very easy to post that comment he posted and just leave instead of generating anything.

As town you can quite easily feign some bs read on someone or force contributions or literally post about anything and make content, it's not that difficult.

I don't really understand why you'd defend, or at least play devil's advocate, to this stance since it's inherently a mafia thing to do to skate by. Not that I think he's totally mafia-ish after his last few flurry of posts but now that he's talking about some me and vivax combo and how he has to go back and check if we interact when it's clear if he's just read through the thread that I've posted shit all my spidey senses are tingling.


Because I literally said I worked a double shift. Now I’m active before my shift today. Nice block text trying to demonize me


I think you should re-read this block again because it literally does the opposite.

I saw this post and assumed that the opposite of demonize was defend.

More of a nullish response to a scumread though

That's the point she is trying to make. You incorrectly assumed HF defended squishy when he definitely didn't.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 04:33 GMT
#400
So Cake why did you do this:
She is insinuating that I think there's a blue in the AFKs because I disagree with the opposite (there being no blues in the AFKs). She then uses the fact that she actually DOES think there's a blue in the AFKs (what you are saying doesn't make her mafia) and that since we agree on that, it's odd for me to scumread her.


?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 04:57 GMT
#413
People apparently dont get modkilled anymore for not participating.

I dont think we can agree on stuff so unless people who are here right now want to vote for Holyflare i guess i am hoping i am wrong and WARDER should be the lynch.

I dont think Cake is mafia and that argument between her and FF doesnt look like mafia on either side, they dust disagree with fundamentals of the game. And also this lol, i just remembered it:
On June 26 2018 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will tell you a secret. During work i went through every single mafia game i ever remember Cake playing on teamliquid and as mafia she has absolutely zero townreads during the first cycle. Literally zero.

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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 05:02 GMT
#418
ehh... i thought we had an hour.
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August 19 2019 05:05 GMT
#421
On August 19 2019 14:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On August 19 2019 14:02 Eversince wrote:
Slam -07:00 PDT still hour left. I msg again host chat but maby you see here before.

I LIVE IN -7:00 PDT IT IS NOW 10 PM

THIS IS DEADLINE This is what I saw as deadline the entire game

I looked at the countdown and i am definitely certain it said we have 2,5 hours 1,5 hours ago....
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 05:10 GMT
#425
On August 19 2019 06:24 Eversince wrote:
Day One Vote Count

WARDER (2): Holyflare, Jockmcplop
reps)squishy (1): Holyflare, Vivax
Vivax (1): reps)squishy
Eywa- (0): Jockmcplop
raynpelikoneet (0): Vivax

Not Voting (8): Eywa-, WARDER, Chezinu, FecalFeast, raynpelikoneet, CopCake

WARDER is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Aug 19 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


This is what i looked at, i dont trust the date tags because DST happens different times in different places so my clock on TL is basically almost always fucked up an hour to some direction.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 19 2019 05:11 GMT
#427
well fuck
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 19 2019 16:06 GMT
#460
No youre the one lying. You can say the later part of the post is how you interpret it and atm i will take it as face value but the earlier part is just simply i lie. I have easily done way way more than you have in this game.

You can claim i can end up with town reads on vivax/cake/jock, maybe i even would tbh, but saying i havent done anything is just an outright lie because i was there figuring out those people when were jacking off and THEN you put me into your scumpile AFTER you come to SAME conclusions i do because "rayn hasnt done anything". That is bs as fuck, and it is all in the thread for anyone to read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 19 2019 16:34 GMT
#463
And where do you have even a single post where you have given even aNY implication of how you hsve reachrd your conclusions on those people?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 19 2019 20:31 GMT
#491
So here is what happened at the start of the game.

People post some random shit. Vivax asks me if i am mafia. Vivax makes a couple of posts on FF where he is actually trying to do something and has some sort of a thought process (as in his "reaction test" or whatever shit that was on me). So well Vivax is already town here. There is no legwork to be done here because he should be read probably town here anyways. Jock's reasoning seems overexplained to me so i ask him about it. Jock doesn't freeze or give any bullshit answer -- just weird way of thinking things imo. Vivax seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. Cake seems to be thinking Jock is mafia. Jock seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. I hard-conter the "case" of Cake calling HF mafia comes from mafia because it doesn't make any sense. I dont really see any reasoning (other than Cake's on Jock later on) that could possibly be something else than mine. Jock doesn't actually call Cake anything until a bit later (when he agrees with HF's list), but inbetween there Cake doesn't really post anything regarding his argument earlier, and there are no other reasons presented for Cake being town other than mine, so why should i assume something else? Same goes with Vivax, i don't see why he'd change his mind unless it is for what i said (as we even discussed it).

So yeah, you can say i didn't do it all but i was part of all the discussion in the thread at the time and the conclusion HF comes to is that i "have posted nothing". If you want to fucking nitpick like he does then yeah, this is simply a lie because i was actually there posting and even if i hadn't posted ANYTHING of substance (which is not the case here) that's still i lie because i have pretty much 2 pages of filter from that time.

Also yeah, i didn't expicitly say where my townreads on Vivax and Jock come from but i didn't think i need to say that because those were pretty obvious reads to make and furthermore, if you have ever played with me and use any portion of your brain cells you can tell if i think someone is mafia or not purely based on how i answer to them and or / if i question tham and in which manner that happens. But apparently people don't use any brain anymore in these games.

This is most likely the last mafia game i will ever play. Game is not for me when there is a "tone scum read" on me based on some bullshit question, then there are some mafiascum scrubs playing who can't form a (gameplaywise) reasonable sentence other than "youre mafia because your role pm says you are mafia". At least HF actually tries to provide some reasoning behind his reads, but that's also bad because he's nitpicking every fucking word in people's posts and when someone else does that nobody ever cares -- he gets away with it as mafia and loses games as town, and that's bad. But noone cares. And almost all the rest of the people afk the shit out, dont post at all and dont vote. What's the point of the game?

Like i can discuss the game with squishy, ff, jock and cake but that's it. Others can go fuck themselves because that's not playing mafia. I havent done anything scummy in this game yet noone even seems to be having a reasonable read on me, Based on what i HAVE done (saying i havent done anything is just simply incorrect). I don't see a reason to discuss shit with anyone because even the players on the list above dont seem to be caring fuck about what i have to say.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 19 2019 20:34 GMT
#494
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?

I have never ever said you should townread me for anything in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 19 2019 20:36 GMT
#497
On August 20 2019 05:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'd prefer if you didn't quit rayn

I decided it right after Eywa's shitpost and as long as i am alive i will probably vote for him and post pretty much nothing so at least people will get it right when they say i have not posted anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 20 2019 21:02 GMT
#616
So yeah i actually am not just pissed off but have reasoning on why Eywa is mafia. Let's start with these quotes from past two games. Last game, after the game (so there is no reason to lie about anything) Eywa said this:
On August 09 2019 01:24 Eywa- wrote:
I actually think Rayn reads the game pretty well, but his play style is pretty hard for me to work with, I find it very anti-town at times when it involves getting into arguments.

I think killing him before getting his reads developed is a net loss for town though. I think he's almost always a good day 2 kill for reasons stated above though.

Now i don't know what the last sentence says, i guess it is trying to say kill me N2 as mafia (as Eywa was mafia), otherwise the whole paragraph doesn't even make any sense.

This is from the game before, Eywa was town in that game so once again there is no reason for him to lie about what he says here. The bolded parts are important (read the whole chain of quotes):
On July 10 2019 03:00 Eywa- wrote:
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On July 10 2019 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 10 2019 02:56 Eywa- wrote:
On July 10 2019 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk we can continue with mafia theory after the game.

I agree Trfel has been making bad posts. I think Jock's posts have more mafia motivation behind them though. Maybe it's a difference on how we see the game, maybe you are right maybe i am. I think i am. May i ask you though why did you scumread me last game since you were clearly wrong and i literally made one case that was good and on mafia?

I scum read you every game, it's pretty much my default since I haven't figured out how to get a read on you... I find it very difficult to come to mutual ground with you on pretty much everything.

We townread each other in the stupid multi-faction game. Although that should not really be used as an example because i didn't really care shit about town in that game when i figured out i can make a deal with mafia and win N1. I don't think you have seen me playing as scum though?

No, I haven't. But, yeah... Moral of the story I don't know how to read you yet.




Now to this game, here are Eywa's first two posts:
On August 19 2019 23:18 Eywa- wrote:
Alright, well I read up (mostly) and I have a very obvious conclusion... Eywa is town.


I have a few other thoughts... I'm town on copcake and FeFe at the moment too... Maybe vivax as well, but undecided as of yet.

I have some scum reads, but I need to filter a bit more to confirm.

On August 19 2019 23:19 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 21:43 Vivax wrote:
But rayn is still mafia, unless he is town on sedatives.

I actually agree with this 100%.

First thing to note here is that in the first post Eywa doesn't post scumreads but instead says he needs to read filters to confirm. Second post says he 100% agrees with Vivax that i am mafia (i don't accept answer "or on sedatives" because after that he starts gunning on me but more on that later). The problem here is that either Eywa read my filter in one minute since that's the difference in times between those posts or that read is bs because if he already had a scumread on me i can't see any reason why the scumread on me isn't in the first post, who cares about town reads when you have a clear scumread? Another thing here (especially regarding the quotes from past games) is that (1) based on how he views my play regarding past games he should NOT have a scumread on me (especially based on the reasoning later on) and (2) in this game, based on what he has posted in his first post and later on we actually agree with pretty much on everything!!!! I also have FF and Cake as town, I also have Vivax town (those are his town reads), i also at least had HF as mafia at this point (which is Eywa's next scumread), so why am i scum again?? Because Eywa -- as per his words -- "tends to scumread me in every game because he finds it very difficult to come to mutual ground with you on pretty much everything"?

Then let's go onto his reasoning of why i am mafia:
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

I hate his playstyle except for the last game where he actually provided very good reasoning on my mafia partner and also on other people, something that is definitely not happening here. There is nothing scummy in calling his play here on this game bad because it is bad for a townie.
On August 20 2019 07:52 Eywa- wrote:
Also, that much AtE is really bad from town!Rayn and he should know better.

I don't care if it's bad or not but almost every game i get pissed at something and thats what happens. That's not an AtE post even, that's a fuck you post. There is nothing scummy in that.
On August 20 2019 07:53 Eywa- wrote:
So... All signs point to scum!rayn

And that's his scumread. See here is another thing that is funny. None of the things he called me mafia for happened before he called me mafia.

Here is his scumread on Holyflare:
HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.

I don't even know what this means or how this makes HF or anyone mafia in any situation without further explanation, which obviously never comes. Another funny fact just for shits and giggles:
On August 20 2019 08:30 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.

Omgus

Na-ah bro, by your (wrong) definition of omgus you're the one omgusing because HF called you mafia first so this omgus thing makes you mafia now right?


Here is his scumread on Jock:
On August 20 2019 08:32 Eywa- wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if mafia were 2 of HF, Rayn and Jockmcplop.

The first two being prioritized there.

On August 21 2019 03:34 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 00:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
FF, Chez, Eywa and squishy are those I would lynch
Preferably squishy because he's mafia.

I'm not liking this from Jockmcplop, after day 1 pocket attempt. I think this is an attempt to quickly adapt to the lines that were drawn by other players (mainly me going against Rayn).

Pocketing move:
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On August 19 2019 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
The problem with that list for me is that they are all afk and at least Eywa-, rayn and FF are going to be very useful later on if they are town.


I don't really see the value in town!jock throwing this out if he's just going to default scum reads to these players when they start being active day 2...

I mean, Rayn stayed inactive and he's not scum reading Rayn, so it seems to go against what he's trying to accomplish here with his "townie move".

So i don't really care what Eywa is actually trying to say Jock's scum motive is because i don't really understand the post in total but here's what i understand. The first post Eywa quoted from Jock is the post that triggers the scumread, without the first quoted post the second one (Jock made D1) isn't scummy because Eywa says "if he's just going to default [to something later on]". Sooo...

Sooo... The problem here once again is that Eywa scumreads Jock before Jock has made the post he scumreads Jock for.



TLDR;

- Once again this picture fits. 2 out of 3 of Eywa's scumreads are based on stuff that happens AFTER they are his scumreads. Basically he is picking a target and then starts "finding reasons for why they are mafia". And that is a fucking mafia thing to do.
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- Reasoning on me doesn't even make sense based on what he has said before and what has happened in this game reads wise, neither does one on Holyflare. Not gonna defend Jock for Jock because i don't really care to figure out why some weird pocketing theory and other shit would be the most possible answer.

So that's pretty much my 2c for today, i see again a lot of arguing between my townreads and last day phse i tried to engage and get the people who i think are town together but apparently that's same as doing nothing so you guys do whatever you do and i can go actually do nothing (or something else at least).

##vote Eywa-

Good night.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 21 2019 08:10 GMT
#714
On August 21 2019 14:14 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 13:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:46 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:44 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:36 Chezinu wrote:
I just read FF's filter.

Conclusion:

1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF.


I like to point fingers. I am paranoid.


FF seems comfortable being oblivious, or may know more than us


touché touché

It's like when you seem to know that I am town...


I had you at null. I have not comprehended what you have said until the last 2 pages. You seem aight when you make sense.

Can you explain what in the last pages makes sense or rather, what is good in a townie way in what Chezinu posted the last couple of pages?

Do you still think mafia is jock and ff are mafia? if yes, what is wrong in cases against eywa since for damn sure there should be something wrong for you in them if eywa is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 21 2019 19:45 GMT
#805
On August 21 2019 17:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 14:14 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:46 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:44 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:36 Chezinu wrote:
I just read FF's filter.

Conclusion:

1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF.


I like to point fingers. I am paranoid.


FF seems comfortable being oblivious, or may know more than us


touché touché

It's like when you seem to know that I am town...


I had you at null. I have not comprehended what you have said until the last 2 pages. You seem aight when you make sense.

Can you explain what in the last pages makes sense or rather, what is good in a townie way in what Chezinu posted the last couple of pages?

Do you still think mafia is jock and ff are mafia? if yes, what is wrong in cases against eywa since for damn sure there should be something wrong for you in them if eywa is not mafia.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 21 2019 20:13 GMT
#809
On August 22 2019 04:56 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2019 17:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2019 14:14 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:46 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:44 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:36 Chezinu wrote:
I just read FF's filter.

Conclusion:

1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF.


I like to point fingers. I am paranoid.


FF seems comfortable being oblivious, or may know more than us


touché touché

It's like when you seem to know that I am town...


I had you at null. I have not comprehended what you have said until the last 2 pages. You seem aight when you make sense.

Can you explain what in the last pages makes sense or rather, what is good in a townie way in what Chezinu posted the last couple of pages?

Do you still think mafia is jock and ff are mafia? if yes, what is wrong in cases against eywa since for damn sure there should be something wrong for you in them if eywa is not mafia.



For Chez these posts were not bad, I could understand them thus "make sense."
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 21 2019 12:50 Chezinu wrote:
Anyways, what do you think about Holyflare? Is his rigid logical style too harsh? Would he play this as mafia to hide his emotions?


On August 21 2019 13:19 Chezinu wrote:
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -
4. W A R D E R
5. V I V A X
6. CC H E Z I N U
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y


1 of 3 mafia
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -


1 of 4 mafia
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y


Jock and FF are my leads. FF is still my vote. Eywa with the votes on him is just getting flustered, still forming my opinion we have hours still to go

Okay let's start with the first post; What is Chezinu saying there in the post?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 21 2019 20:51 GMT
#812
But he has played like 20 games with Holyflare. He should know his style better than Cake (who he is talking to). The discussion doesn't go anywhere after that because Cake says (and has already said before) that she considers HF town. What's the point of asking those questions when you should already have the answers?

Also what's the point of making a list where you divide the playerbase in half? Like why can't for example Jock and HF be mafia together? Or Eywa and Jock? Or me and you? Like what evidence does Chezinu have that makes those teams not likely?

Why is Chezinu even voting for Eywa and at the same time asking questions about me and HF (basically implying we are mafia)? We are the people who originally fueled the cases on Eywa, if he agrees with the cases why is he same time basically implying we are mafia?

I am asking you these questions because i want to know where you are coming from, specifically because when you answered to Chezinu (the post i originally quoted) you said you HAD chezinu null BEFORE, and then you "compliment" him on making posts, so basically i cannot make any other conclusion than that you don't anymore read him null but town, i don't see how your wording otherwise makes sense.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 21 2019 20:52 GMT
#813
On August 22 2019 05:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rayn what up

not much, i read many pages of nonsense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 21 2019 21:09 GMT
#814
Well i am gonna pass out, not really easy days at work rn.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2019 07:52 GMT
#887
Not even mad.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2019 07:57 GMT
#888
On August 22 2019 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But he (Chezinu) has played like 20 games with Holyflare (and Cake has not). He should know his style better than Cake (who he is talking to). The discussion doesn't go anywhere after that because Cake says (and has already said before) that she considers HF town. What's the point of asking those questions when you should already have the answers?

Also what's the point of making a list where you (Chezinu) divide the playerbase in half? Like why can't for example Jock and HF be mafia together? Or Eywa and Jock? Or me and you? Like what evidence does Chezinu have that makes those teams not likely?

Why is Chezinu even voting for Eywa and at the same time asking questions about me and HF (basically implying we are mafia)? We are the people who originally fueled the cases on Eywa, if he agrees with the cases why is he same time basically implying we are mafia?

I am asking you these questions because i want to know where you are coming from, specifically because when you answered to Chezinu (the post i originally quoted) you said you HAD chezinu null BEFORE, and then you "compliment" him on making posts, so basically i cannot make any other conclusion than that you don't anymore read him null but town, i don't see how your wording otherwise makes sense.

You never followed up on this squishy.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2019 08:58 GMT
#889
wtf jock?
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2019 09:16 GMT
#891
I think you look like mafia for that vote change.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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August 22 2019 09:25 GMT
#892
You write stuff like "dont lynch eywa just because there is a shiny case on him with pictures" and shit. did you even read the case? WHY would you lynch a person IF NOT because there is a CASE on them?????????????

Also seriously, you of all the people should understand my case and respect it. Like this is literally what eywa did with both you and me:

During night 1: "I think jock is mafia (because of his D1 play)".
"why is jock mafia"
"Jock is mafia because of something he did during D2"

Like why would a townie EVER EVER EVER post something like that??? You should never assume that kind of thought process comes from a townie in case you are town, because it never should come from town. If you're making a case or telling why someone is mafia you don't only post half of the reasons why you think they are mafia, you post all the reasons why you think they are mafia, unless ofc you are mafia and have just decided on who to call mafia and THEN start finding out those reasons and just fuck up because you can't make up anything from before.

Like, especially for you, your defense on Eywa makes no fucking sense at all.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2019 09:40 GMT
#895
On August 22 2019 18:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
You'd rather I just put my vote on the easiest lynch and leave it there like everyone else regardless of what eywa was saying in the thread?

Eywa did say absolutely nothing of value in the thread. Even his defense on the case was nothing but "no, but you are mafia". All he did was talk outside the cases and kept calling people mafia without any reasoning. Perhaps you should sometimes read WHAT people actually write.
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raynpelikoneet
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August 22 2019 09:46 GMT
#896
On August 22 2019 08:04 Eywa- wrote:
Ok,

So I guess it's time that I address the elephant in the room... Raynpelikoneet, how are you?

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On August 21 2019 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So yeah i actually am not just pissed off but have reasoning on why Eywa is mafia. Let's start with these quotes from past two games. Last game, after the game (so there is no reason to lie about anything) Eywa said this:
On August 09 2019 01:24 Eywa- wrote:
I actually think Rayn reads the game pretty well, but his play style is pretty hard for me to work with, I find it very anti-town at times when it involves getting into arguments.

I think killing him before getting his reads developed is a net loss for town though. I think he's almost always a good day 2 kill for reasons stated above though.

Now i don't know what the last sentence says, i guess it is trying to say kill me N2 as mafia (as Eywa was mafia), otherwise the whole paragraph doesn't even make any sense.

This is from the game before, Eywa was town in that game so once again there is no reason for him to lie about what he says here. The bolded parts are important (read the whole chain of quotes):
On July 10 2019 03:00 Eywa- wrote:
On July 10 2019 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 10 2019 02:56 Eywa- wrote:
On July 10 2019 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk we can continue with mafia theory after the game.

I agree Trfel has been making bad posts. I think Jock's posts have more mafia motivation behind them though. Maybe it's a difference on how we see the game, maybe you are right maybe i am. I think i am. May i ask you though why did you scumread me last game since you were clearly wrong and i literally made one case that was good and on mafia?

I scum read you every game, it's pretty much my default since I haven't figured out how to get a read on you... I find it very difficult to come to mutual ground with you on pretty much everything.

We townread each other in the stupid multi-faction game. Although that should not really be used as an example because i didn't really care shit about town in that game when i figured out i can make a deal with mafia and win N1. I don't think you have seen me playing as scum though?

No, I haven't. But, yeah... Moral of the story I don't know how to read you yet.




Now to this game, here are Eywa's first two posts:
On August 19 2019 23:18 Eywa- wrote:
Alright, well I read up (mostly) and I have a very obvious conclusion... Eywa is town.


I have a few other thoughts... I'm town on copcake and FeFe at the moment too... Maybe vivax as well, but undecided as of yet.

I have some scum reads, but I need to filter a bit more to confirm.

On August 19 2019 23:19 Eywa- wrote:
On August 19 2019 21:43 Vivax wrote:
But rayn is still mafia, unless he is town on sedatives.

I actually agree with this 100%.

First thing to note here is that in the first post Eywa doesn't post scumreads but instead says he needs to read filters to confirm. Second post says he 100% agrees with Vivax that i am mafia (i don't accept answer "or on sedatives" because after that he starts gunning on me but more on that later). The problem here is that either Eywa read my filter in one minute since that's the difference in times between those posts or that read is bs because if he already had a scumread on me i can't see any reason why the scumread on me isn't in the first post, who cares about town reads when you have a clear scumread? Another thing here (especially regarding the quotes from past games) is that (1) based on how he views my play regarding past games he should NOT have a scumread on me (especially based on the reasoning later on) and (2) in this game, based on what he has posted in his first post and later on we actually agree with pretty much on everything!!!! I also have FF and Cake as town, I also have Vivax town (those are his town reads), i also at least had HF as mafia at this point (which is Eywa's next scumread), so why am i scum again?? Because Eywa -- as per his words -- "tends to scumread me in every game because he finds it very difficult to come to mutual ground with you on pretty much everything"?

Then let's go onto his reasoning of why i am mafia:
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

I hate his playstyle except for the last game where he actually provided very good reasoning on my mafia partner and also on other people, something that is definitely not happening here. There is nothing scummy in calling his play here on this game bad because it is bad for a townie.
On August 20 2019 07:52 Eywa- wrote:
Also, that much AtE is really bad from town!Rayn and he should know better.

I don't care if it's bad or not but almost every game i get pissed at something and thats what happens. That's not an AtE post even, that's a fuck you post. There is nothing scummy in that.
On August 20 2019 07:53 Eywa- wrote:
So... All signs point to scum!rayn

And that's his scumread. See here is another thing that is funny. None of the things he called me mafia for happened before he called me mafia.

Here is his scumread on Holyflare:
HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.

I don't even know what this means or how this makes HF or anyone mafia in any situation without further explanation, which obviously never comes. Another funny fact just for shits and giggles:
On August 20 2019 08:30 Eywa- wrote:
On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.

Omgus

Na-ah bro, by your (wrong) definition of omgus you're the one omgusing because HF called you mafia first so this omgus thing makes you mafia now right?


Here is his scumread on Jock:
On August 20 2019 08:32 Eywa- wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if mafia were 2 of HF, Rayn and Jockmcplop.

The first two being prioritized there.

On August 21 2019 03:34 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 00:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
FF, Chez, Eywa and squishy are those I would lynch
Preferably squishy because he's mafia.

I'm not liking this from Jockmcplop, after day 1 pocket attempt. I think this is an attempt to quickly adapt to the lines that were drawn by other players (mainly me going against Rayn).

Pocketing move:
On August 19 2019 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
The problem with that list for me is that they are all afk and at least Eywa-, rayn and FF are going to be very useful later on if they are town.


I don't really see the value in town!jock throwing this out if he's just going to default scum reads to these players when they start being active day 2...

I mean, Rayn stayed inactive and he's not scum reading Rayn, so it seems to go against what he's trying to accomplish here with his "townie move".

So i don't really care what Eywa is actually trying to say Jock's scum motive is because i don't really understand the post in total but here's what i understand. The first post Eywa quoted from Jock is the post that triggers the scumread, without the first quoted post the second one (Jock made D1) isn't scummy because Eywa says "if he's just going to default [to something later on]". Sooo...

Sooo... The problem here once again is that Eywa scumreads Jock before Jock has made the post he scumreads Jock for.



TLDR;

- Once again this picture fits. 2 out of 3 of Eywa's scumreads are based on stuff that happens AFTER they are his scumreads. Basically he is picking a target and then starts "finding reasons for why they are mafia". And that is a fucking mafia thing to do.
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- Reasoning on me doesn't even make sense based on what he has said before and what has happened in this game reads wise, neither does one on Holyflare. Not gonna defend Jock for Jock because i don't really care to figure out why some weird pocketing theory and other shit would be the most possible answer.

So that's pretty much my 2c for today, i see again a lot of arguing between my townreads and last day phse i tried to engage and get the people who i think are town together but apparently that's same as doing nothing so you guys do whatever you do and i can go actually do nothing (or something else at least).

##vote Eywa-

Good night.

First off the quote:

I actually think Rayn reads the game pretty well, but his play style is pretty hard for me to work with, I find it very anti-town at times when it involves getting into arguments.

I think killing him before getting his reads developed is a net loss for town though. I think he's almost always a good day 2 kill for reasons stated above though

So...

1... He hasn't been so abrasive this game and has tried to make it easy for people to work with him. He has shown less willingness to go head to head in a situation where he might get lynched in order to make a point.

2... YES... That is exactly what I'm doing.


Let's move on, because there's a lot of elephant shit to get through here.

Rayn quotes:
No, I haven't. But, yeah... Moral of the story I don't know how to read you yet.

That was 2 games ago... Just after my first game as town!eywa vs scum!rayn... OF COURSE I WASN'T SURE HOW TO READ HIM BEFORE ANALYSIS.

Also... Mandatory "you once said you couldn't read me, so your read this game is invalid"



Now to this game... I might not make it through guys, so much shit.

Yes... I skimmed before posting in the thread and I already had some opinions formed, I was going to post something similar, but I was going back to check. Vivax posting just provided me the confirmation I was going back for anyway.

Yes... I got my town reads on those players from Rayn because I judged that he probably wouldn't have called out his scum partner so soon, that could be a misread from me, but it's just how I saw the situation.

So... Rayn, you're saying you're actually scum reading HF. I'm sorry, where is this being pushed in the thread? You think HF is just blatantly bussing me?

Now we're going through a bunch of reasons why Rayn isn't mafia.

Wait... I've completely missed where Eywa is mafia, yet I'm at the bottom of the case, ready for the TL;DR.

I guess it's some strong OMGUS and no one actually read Rayn's post, because they never read a thing the guy says.

Tell me, where in here does Eywa reasonably anwser the points:
- Eywa called rayn mafia N1 but all of his reasoning later on happened AFTER he called rayn mafia
- Eywa called Jock mafia N1 but all of his reasoning later on happened AFTER he called Jock mafia
- Eywa called my post an AtE towards HF but then me and HF are both mafia (which he backed off later on just to go back to that) when there is no reason for me to get mad at HF in the first place in case we are both mafia (that was from HF's case)

Do you think this is the answer:
On August 22 2019 08:06 Eywa- wrote:
Rayn's case against me is entirely based on when I read the thread. Yet, he doesn't have that information... So how does that make sense? His case why I shouldn't be scum reading him also applies for reasons he shouldn't be scum reading me... (though I disagree with them in both directions)

That's a fucking bullshit answer because THATS NOT EVEN WHAT MY CASE IS ABOUT!!!!!!!! I never ever said anything about WHEN Eywa is reading the thread. Apparently this dude genuinely cant even process what he reads, but that's not something YOU should base your conclusion on before his flip.
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#900
On August 22 2019 18:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
It was about the way eywa reacted to being a certain lynch. It was how his focus was on the next day and what happens when he is dead. Sure, that's fakeable as mafia which is why i wasn't townreading him, but it definitely looked better than squishy WHO CAN I REMIND YOU STILL HASN'T DONE ANYTHING PRO-TOWN IN THE WHOLE GAME and is just trying to survive.

I dont care what squishy did. I care about the fact you wanted to derail the lynch that is going to happen either way, aka possibly either (1) picking up another target for the next day, or (2) bussing onto a "lynch" that isn't going to happen to look good later on.

Again, there was nothing townie EVER in what Eywa did, all he did was argue that the three targets (or amongst them) he had already picked in advance are mafia. He didn't try to figure out anything, he already chose his path during N1 and there is NO OTHER approach he would EVER take as mafia because the approach he took gives the least information to the town when he is lynched. And that is a fact.
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August 22 2019 09:57 GMT
#901
Like throughout the day he is either going to get lynched or not get lynched but what he posted:
(1) gives the best chances of survival as mafia
(2) if he is indeed lynched it gives the least amount of information to town in case he is mafia
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#903
On August 22 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you not pushing my lynch rayn?

Because idk if you are mafia and there are people who are definitely more likely to be mafia than you.

Like Chezinu eho seemed to be thinking me and/or you are mafia but at the same time voted with us.

Like squishy whose read on Chezinu i find to be very irrational.

Like jock who did what i just talked about.

That being said why arent you yelling to lynch whoever didnt vote for eywa rn because that is what you usually do when you think someone is mafia and then they flip town? Except that in this case you'd actually have a real reason for doing that because tbh eywa should have always flipped mafia.
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August 22 2019 18:31 GMT
#911
I am not home yet. Squishy dodged the question entirely.
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August 22 2019 19:46 GMT
#916
I dont really know who is mafia, i am trying to figure it out. I am not sure what am i supposed to do if not ask questions about their actions. Saying i spent time re-summing up the case on eywa is just wrong. that's not what i did, i specifically asked jock why he did something when he knew those facts.
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#917
On August 22 2019 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HF, why arent you yelling to lynch whoever didnt vote for eywa rn because that is what you usually do when you think someone is mafia and then they flip town? Except that in this case you'd actually have a real reason for doing that because tbh eywa should have always flipped mafia.

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August 22 2019 19:59 GMT
#918
After giving it some thought in the evening i am like 70% sure jock and squishy cannot be mafia together so i am pretty sure i am going to vote for chezinu. if we then die to hf + jock i am going to blame everyone except for me.
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August 22 2019 20:03 GMT
#922
I dont think jock and squishy are mafia together so atm my best bet for mafia is chezinu. there is probably 1 mafia in jock/squishy (or hf), and i also don't think hf+squishy pair is amongst my top picks. chezinu fits with everyone and chezinu doesn't look town to me.
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August 22 2019 20:04 GMT
#923
idk, why did you stop voting for squishy in the first place HF?
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#924
On August 19 2019 00:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?



I did, I saw it as regardless of alignment these peeps should be left alive.

You counterpoint my accusations with “it’s early” but you town read that many people that early on?


Yes, it's a town list lol. I don't ever care about leaving people alive, I just town read people and find mafia in the narrowed down pool of players. That makes the game much more simple.

Like I said, if it was people to just be left alive and you said that's because vivax was a veteran, why is Rayn not on the list?

I can see a lot of your points being raised are just misunderstandings though so it's whatever and I don't care to push it anymore because it's boring. The people I think could be mafia aren't posting.

What does this have anything to do with why you originally voted for him?
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August 22 2019 20:36 GMT
#926
yes
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August 22 2019 20:55 GMT
#928
idk why i should take chezinu out of the equation?

Squishy or Jock, i dont have enough information because neither of them has answerd me.
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August 22 2019 21:01 GMT
#930
jock did some things i agreed with. and someone else said the same thing on the other thing. but i really really hate his D2 end. I dont like how squishy is calling people mafia based on when they are attacking a same target. Like i can somehow understand that from a newer player but then there is the chezinu read where i feel like he just dodged my questions about it while literally quoting my post...
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August 22 2019 21:02 GMT
#931
On August 23 2019 05:59 CopCake wrote:
My other team combo is FF and Jock, mostly because they seem to fight and push an agenda, it is like they are carrying sword and dance with them trying to sell it as if it was a big discussion like the battle of the bastards.

what do you mean by pushing an agenda?
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August 22 2019 21:09 GMT
#935
On August 23 2019 06:06 CopCake wrote:
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On August 23 2019 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2019 05:59 CopCake wrote:
My other team combo is FF and Jock, mostly because they seem to fight and push an agenda, it is like they are carrying sword and dance with them trying to sell it as if it was a big discussion like the battle of the bastards.

what do you mean by pushing an agenda?


They tried to get me lynched but you defended me. They have done that shit several times during the game, not just with me.

What is the point of them doing it as mafia pair? It's not like either of them has been in danger of being lynched. Whay do they feel the need to do that based on the situation their team is on assuming they are mafia?
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August 22 2019 21:19 GMT
#937
All in on same person, and when that doesn't work all in on another person?
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August 22 2019 21:29 GMT
#939
Can you direct me to a post where their fight starts.
I am sorry i dont believe that's what they would do as mafia.
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August 22 2019 21:47 GMT
#941
na-ah i dont see it. where it ends was a really cool post from jock. i laughed.
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#942
On August 21 2019 02:34 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 14:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[spoiler]So here is what happened at the start of the game.

People post some random shit. Vivax asks me if i am mafia. Vivax makes a couple of posts on FF where he is actually trying to do something and has some sort of a thought process (as in his "reaction test" or whatever shit that was on me). So well Vivax is already town here. There is no legwork to be done here because he should be read probably town here anyways. Jock's reasoning seems overexplained to me so i ask him about it. Jock doesn't freeze or give any bullshit answer -- just weird way of thinking things imo. Vivax seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. Cake seems to be thinking Jock is mafia. Jock seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. I hard-conter the "case" of Cake calling HF mafia comes from mafia because it doesn't make any sense. I dont really see any reasoning (other than Cake's on Jock later on) that could possibly be something else than mine. Jock doesn't actually call Cake anything until a bit later (when he agrees with HF's list), but inbetween there Cake doesn't really post anything regarding his argument earlier, and there are no other reasons presented for Cake being town other than mine, so why should i assume something else? Same goes with Vivax, i don't see why he'd change his mind unless it is for what i said (as we even discussed it).

So yeah, you can say i didn't do it all but i was part of all the discussion in the thread at the time and the conclusion HF comes to is that i "have posted nothing". If you want to fucking nitpick like he does then yeah, this is simply a lie because i was actually there posting and even if i hadn't posted ANYTHING of substance (which is not the case here) that's still i lie because i have pretty much 2 pages of filter from that time.

Also yeah, i didn't expicitly say where my townreads on Vivax and Jock come from but i didn't think i need to say that because those were pretty obvious reads to make and furthermore, if you have ever played with me and use any portion of your brain cells you can tell if i think someone is mafia or not purely based on how i answer to them and or / if i question tham and in which manner that happens. But apparently people don't use any brain anymore in these games.

This is most likely the last mafia game i will ever play. Game is not for me when there is a "tone scum read" on me based on some bullshit question, then there are some mafiascum scrubs playing who can't form a (gameplaywise) reasonable sentence other than "youre mafia because your role pm says you are mafia". At least HF actually tries to provide some reasoning behind his reads, but that's also bad because he's nitpicking every fucking word in people's posts and when someone else does that nobody ever cares -- he gets away with it as mafia and loses games as town, and that's bad. But noone cares. And almost all the rest of the people afk the shit out, dont post at all and dont vote. What's the point of the game?

Like i can discuss the game with squishy, ff, jock and cake but that's it. Others can go fuck themselves because that's not playing mafia. I havent done anything scummy in this game yet noone even seems to be having a reasonable read on me, Based on what i HAVE done (saying i havent done anything is just simply incorrect). I don't see a reason to discuss shit with anyone because even the players on the list above dont seem to be caring fuck about what i have to say.[/spoiler]


The amount of effort is unusual. The try hardness of this seems scummy


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[B]On August 21 2019 02:23 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 02:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I know I've scumread you like every game so far but I can't shake it I guess.

So squishy is mafia and you would prefer to vote him but don't care to vote him or make a case to convince anyone else to vote him?



Sounds lazy


What is the exact correct amount of effort you require from a player, squishy?

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August 23 2019 09:49 GMT
#952
So your only townread is HF who has done exactly what besides eywa lynch?

I agree squishy is not mafia. Why does the reasoning you presented however apply to squishy but not cake?

Furthermore i am just waiting for answers to my questions. I dont understand what i am supposed to do or how am i supposed to play if people dont even give me the courtesy to answer very clear questions presented to them.
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August 23 2019 10:05 GMT
#954
Well if that was your final answer during N2 then i think youre mafia. I believe you, based on the available information, would consider eywa more likely to be mafia than squishy during D2. I dont believe in the reasoning you provised.
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August 23 2019 10:17 GMT
#956
On August 23 2019 19:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
Just because you make a good case it doesn't mean anyoen who doesn't believe it is scum.

See that's the point. I think you should have believed it.
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August 23 2019 10:18 GMT
#957
Why am i mafia if that's typical rayn?
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#958
Well, i am working double shift so see you tomorrow morning if my eyes will stay open.
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August 23 2019 15:56 GMT
#965
"My bad". Yeah fucking right.
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August 23 2019 16:02 GMT
#966
So i am mafia because:

- i play like i typically play, only that this time i am for sute faking it

- i am alive, it definitely makes me mafia because me and hf are never alive after n2, but it doesnt make hf mafia. Only applies to me.

- i am mafia because i questioned jock

Sadly at least one of these people are town. And then people wonder why i said i am not gonna play anymore. Well this was the last site that actually played mafia, and even that is now gone.
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August 23 2019 22:44 GMT
#1152
Shut up i know who the cop is. If you have "different" check then claim, if you dont then dont.

I also know who mafia is.
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August 23 2019 23:06 GMT
#1155
It doesnt matter because we are lynching the dude who scumslipped.
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August 24 2019 03:51 GMT
#1167
##vote reps)squishy
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August 24 2019 12:45 GMT
#1190
Do you even realise what you are doing jock?
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August 24 2019 14:16 GMT
#1192
I dont understand why people arent voting for squishy?
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August 24 2019 14:17 GMT
#1193
HF you realise it is squishy and Chezinu right?
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August 24 2019 14:31 GMT
#1194
Idk if people are afraid to vote for the dude who scumslipped because they have doubts on me or what, but that's always the correct answer here. I know you HF said something that discredits my credibility but your hypothesis is wrong (even if you don't think i am mafia) because it does bad things here. A good portion of my latest towngames have ended up in a disaster just because people dont bother to play and / or people modkill themselves and that costs town a mislynch when the game otherwise is perfectly winnable. I know you know this too and i am not sorry for my "QQ post" on N1 especially after how or WHY i got lynched in the last game because that was completely and 1000000000000000000% bullshit and while noone really hard pushed me during N1 i saw elements of same kind of bs that happened there.

Can you please tell people to vote for him because i dont think i have credibility to do that for some reason? Please do not question the sentence before this one because it is what it is.
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August 24 2019 14:32 GMT
#1195
I am busy right now but i will make a post during the evening.
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August 24 2019 14:33 GMT
#1196
On August 24 2019 22:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is frustrating.
We need a single wagon with everyone 5 people on it by the end of the day or we're done for.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING SQUISHY.


Just claim then, fuck me.

Jock is not a cop 100% sure.
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August 24 2019 15:15 GMT
#1200
He scumslipped ffs..... He knew mafia has 2 kills next night when it should not be something a twnie knows.
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August 24 2019 15:15 GMT
#1201
Read HF's posts.
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August 24 2019 17:23 GMT
#1230
On August 25 2019 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 25 2019 01:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.



It was complicated i don't think he was afk. lots of factors, but people didn't take his offensive drunk posting as town the way they probably should have done (me included!)

lies
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:05 GMT
#1242
who are you going to vote cake?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:07 GMT
#1244
why? there is a dude who SCUMSLIPPED?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:08 GMT
#1245
tell me one good reason why i should not vote for squishy, because he said he knew mafia has 2 kp next night
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:08 GMT
#1246
did you know that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:09 GMT
#1248
ofc they do know their kp lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:21 GMT
#1253
Kill power
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:24 GMT
#1255
On August 25 2019 03:15 CopCake wrote:
In before I am super dumb for my cop theory with Chezinu.

yes you are
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:25 GMT
#1257
jock and squishy are different.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:26 GMT
#1259
On August 25 2019 03:24 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:15 CopCake wrote:
In before I am super dumb for my cop theory with Chezinu.

You forgot the posts about the cupcake that was a cop!

You're prolly mafia so......
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:28 GMT
#1261
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

idk but squishy scumslipped and jock fucked up your "pro town" shit on no-lynching, so... yeah.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:28 GMT
#1262
i honestly think you are the other mafia HF.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:30 GMT
#1264
I thought Chezinu was building up for a fakeclaim but mmmm....
Youre dead HF.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:31 GMT
#1266
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

Please ppl, "which one is which"????????????????!"?!"?!?"!?"!?

lololo.,oloolll
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:32 GMT
#1267
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i honestly think you are the other mafia HF.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:34 GMT
#1269
On August 25 2019 03:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i honestly think you are the other mafia HF.



So who are mafia

HF and Squishy?
HF and chezinu?


no, one of squishy and jock is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:38 GMT
#1271
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

Where did you go now?
Afk?
huh?'
ffffffffffs!!!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:38 GMT
#1272
On August 25 2019 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

idk but squishy scumslipped and jock fucked up your "pro town" shit on no-lynching, so... yeah.


? How can you not know. Which is red and which is green?

are you dumb or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:39 GMT
#1274
squishy is red and jock is green what can you tell from it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:39 GMT
#1275
TELL ME WHAT CAN YOU TELL FROM IT?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:40 GMT
#1276
##unvote
##vote holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:41 GMT
#1277
too dense right now. too dense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:42 GMT
#1279
On August 25 2019 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Ok if that is a cop claim it makes more sense to lynch squishy

no
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#1281
like squishy is maybe 90% mafia but HF is 95% and we're gonna lose unless you kill him today. Fact, he will out-argue everyone and you will just lose.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#1282
On August 25 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
squishy is red and jock is green what can you tell from it?


Just curious about your sanity, calm your tits? I don't know if this makes squishy mafia and also you're stupid if you think I'm mafia after my today posts.

stupid question, you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:48 GMT
#1284
On August 25 2019 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
Not really sure how you concluded that since I'm voting squishy and called him out on his slip thing which you seem to be exhaustively calling definitely mafia.

not sure how i asked you about something different you backed it up with something else?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:49 GMT
#1286
can you for a fucking moment understand that it's not only you who is driving the conversation?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:51 GMT
#1289
On August 25 2019 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
Not really sure how you concluded that since I'm voting squishy and called him out on his slip thing which you seem to be exhaustively calling definitely mafia.

why do you use this as a "reasoning???"" (idk why even)
You backed out of it already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:53 GMT
#1292
you attack chezinu fuck all and then just.... nothing...........
ugh.... lol i guess i am gonna have to post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:54 GMT
#1294
i think it is squishy and HF.
my 2c so far.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:54 GMT
#1295
On August 25 2019 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
You said you had a different check and I was just checking if you were saying you were a parity, in which case it was a fake claim.

are you fucking dumb??????????????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:55 GMT
#1297
yeah HF is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:55 GMT
#1299
we need to kill hf, then squishy. ggnore.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:56 GMT
#1300
On August 25 2019 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you attack chezinu fuck all and then just.... nothing...........
ugh.... lol i guess i am gonna have to post.


I just don't give a shit. I'm having fun being unemployed and spending time with my family. Had a nice bbq, had a nice day at football. Now I'm spending it with my brother who came up from London.

Don't blame me you waited 24 hours too long to claim cop. Had all the time in the world last night.

can i also claim QQ here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:56 GMT
#1301
because tbh i am quite furious of what you (and others) did
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 18:59 GMT
#1304
mhm
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:01 GMT
#1307
i am not drunk btw so dont try to downplay me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:02 GMT
#1310
On August 25 2019 04:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
Wait has everyone been in the thread since rayn claimed?

yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:03 GMT
#1312
So Chezinu you wanna CC me? Or what are you saying?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:04 GMT
#1315
On August 25 2019 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we need to kill hf, then squishy. ggnore.


Wait has everyone been in the thread since rayn claimed?
No counter claim?

On August 25 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

idk but squishy scumslipped and jock fucked up your "pro town" shit on no-lynching, so... yeah.


? How can you not know. Which is red and which is green?

are you dumb or what?


You are fake claiming then?


HF you'll have to help me out i don't understand. Why is rayn fakeclaiming?


Because at that point he simply said different rather than the colours. Thought he might have been claiming parity instead of a sanity cop. I dunno, only skimming tbh.

this guy next. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:05 GMT
#1316
never ever let HF live after, please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:05 GMT
#1318
##unvote
##vote squishy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:06 GMT
#1321
On August 25 2019 04:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
never ever let HF live after, please.


Rayn if you are telling me that squishy and i are different i have no choice squishy is 100% mafia you 95% on holyflare doesn't do it for me.

next day you kill HF, just read what he writes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:07 GMT
#1322
I knew you were not mafia after squsishy claimed scum, i am sorry to fuck with you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:08 GMT
#1324
On August 25 2019 04:06 Chezinu wrote:
What if we have another blue role instead of a cop?

yeah we could have a doctor, how could i miss it?
you wanna go on?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#1326
this game is cool i am killing all the mafia :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#1327
HF is QQing rn
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:11 GMT
#1331
On August 25 2019 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HF is QQing rn


??? Lol?

youre asking a hot to clarify something because you lost.
no more, no less.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:13 GMT
#1332
there is no reason why HF should let go of a scum claim. If you do not believe me, believe me. :D

Read his posts on squishy, murder squishy, then murder HF ggnore.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:16 GMT
#1334
lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:17 GMT
#1335
"there is this tone read i say"...... <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:17 GMT
#1336
most of the people, pass, you, no pass. I am sorry.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:20 GMT
#1337
I want to know if it is you HF,

Why did you back off from 100% case?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:21 GMT
#1338
talk to me if youre town
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:28 GMT
#1339
cake dont an idiot pls
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:32 GMT
#1341
vote squishy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:38 GMT
#1343
On August 25 2019 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to know if it is you HF,

Why did you back off from 100% case?


Are you talking about squishy case?

yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:41 GMT
#1346
On August 25 2019 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I've already talked about why.

ok. i think it doest sound like you as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:42 GMT
#1347
doesnt*
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:44 GMT
#1349
but after that he was vanilla townie?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:44 GMT
#1350
what you just quoted is bullshit and i demonstrated it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:51 GMT
#1357
On August 25 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I've already talked about why.

ok. i think it doest sound like you as town.


You have literally 0 idea how to read me then. I don't think his explanation was awful at all and the last paragraph sounded townie even. After I'd just hard claimed vt he seemed sad to lose the game for town. Seemed legit to me.

Then I just stopped caring because cop strung me along for 7 hours and didn't claim cop and I've been out all day.

so you want to lynch him or jock?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 19:54 GMT
#1358
On August 25 2019 04:51 CopCake wrote:
Ok so let me get this clear

6 players.
Chez * Cake * Rayn * HF * Squishy * Jock

If we dont lynch at night have

2 dead persons, lets say Jock and Cake who are town reads

That would leave

2 mafia vs 2 townies

Isnt it End game either way if we misslynch today?????????


no, why would the game go on if it was so?

head out of ass, and play pls.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 20:00 GMT
#1363
If chezinu claim during my night hours dont believe him. Idk i think cake is town but i am nearly not sure anyone believes me despite being un'ccd..... people are posting, but not voting. if you fucked me up with doing shit when i am sleeping (aka EU vs US hours) then fuck you, you can keep your victory. HF and Jock are not mafia, so there is that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 20:01 GMT
#1364
i gotta be at work in 6 hrs.. Don't deviate pls.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 24 2019 20:12 GMT
#1368
I am nu cc'd cop who has a different check on squishy and jock. for those who are idiots that means one of them is town and one of them is not. squishy claimed mafia. jock came forward with 2kp on next night. It's a fucking no brainer. I need to sleep so please do the right thing.
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