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Jockmcplop
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Chezinu
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:16 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ask you something chezinu do you really think squishy killed FF because he misread something you wrote? Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story? I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly... | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:10 Chezinu wrote: You have been very crazy this game HF. You accuse without base. You keep twisting players words in this game to fit your narrative. Even if you are talented at it. It is getting very old. You have over done it this game. I think I've been extremely open and forthright this game and no misconstrued really anything. Please highlight where I've done such things. I will wait. All I can see is the following: I've started a no lynch train because it's optimal for town. Squishy slipped about 2 mafia NK's. You said some ridiculous points about how his post could mean something else. I counter it and ask why there is massive inconsistency in your logic/reading. You ignore it. Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something. I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering. This makes your post look incredibly like someone who: A) Knows Squishy's alignment is town and thus he can't possibly know there are 2 mafia KP as it's not in the thread. B) Tries to make the Squishy post fit the above's narrative. No, I don't understand any of your posts because I simply don't read them as they are vapid excuses for blending in. I don't really care if there's an underlying meaning I'd much rather you just post the actual meaning and get on with it. It's very much anti win con if you are town and perfect if you are mafia. Ergo you are anti town or mafia and combined with the bold are very much likely to be mafia. Shooting into FF and Vivax are very very weird plays and reminiscent of someone going for blues IMO too seeing as Vivax wasn't nearly town cleared and FF absolutely was not and wasn't really doing much of anything. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9649 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:19 Chezinu wrote: Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story? I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly... I'm also trying to explore possibilities chez. I'm trying to see things from hf's point of view re: squishy. Your thing about the FF NK is of particular interest to me because that's why i townread squishy in the first place so I asked because I want to know whether you think it happened or whether you are just pointing out that it might have happened. I like your riddles and trolling but I confess I don't know how to read it in any relevant way unfortunately. | ||
CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:19 Chezinu wrote: Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story? I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly... I feel very very very very offended - shows tongue - | ||
Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash? Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless. Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way. squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though. | ||
Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:23 Holyflare wrote: I think I've been extremely open and forthright this game and no misconstrued really anything. Please highlight where I've done such things. I will wait. All I can see is the following: I've started a no lynch train because it's optimal for town. Squishy slipped about 2 mafia NK's. You said some ridiculous points about how his post could mean something else. I counter it and ask why there is massive inconsistency in your logic/reading. You ignore it. Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something. I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering. This makes your post look incredibly like someone who: A) Knows Squishy's alignment is town and thus he can't possibly know there are 2 mafia KP as it's not in the thread. B) Tries to make the Squishy post fit the above's narrative. No, I don't understand any of your posts because I simply don't read them as they are vapid excuses for blending in. I don't really care if there's an underlying meaning I'd much rather you just post the actual meaning and get on with it. It's very much anti win con if you are town and perfect if you are mafia. Ergo you are anti town or mafia and combined with the bold are very much likely to be mafia. Shooting into FF and Vivax are very very weird plays and reminiscent of someone going for blues IMO too seeing as Vivax wasn't nearly town cleared and FF absolutely was not and wasn't really doing much of anything. Vivax was the towny player Day 1 in my opinion. | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
reps)squishy (2): Holyflare, Chezinu raynpelikoneet (0): Holyflare (0): Chezinu (0): No Lynch (1): CopCake, Not Voting (3): Jockmcplop, raynpelikoneet, reps)squishy reps)squishy is currently set to be lynched. Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is 05:00 GMT (+00:00) Which is in | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote: Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with. HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash? Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless. Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way. squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though. What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia. | ||
Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:20 Tubesock wrote: Mafia has 2 kp on Night 3. LOL This is the first game I played where mafia gets 2 kp on night 3. | ||
Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 19 2019 08:04 Chezinu wrote: 20% mafia Mislynch then 25% mafia Then 33% mafia Then 50% mafia Ugh, someone gotz to figure out rayn.. 20% mafia (8 vs 2) Mislynch + 1 nk 25% mafia (6 vs 2) Mislynch + 1 nk 33% mafia (4 vs 2) Mislynch + 2 nk 66% mafia (1 vs 2) Well that changes that. Perhaps I should assume jock is town because he made us filters. | ||
CopCake
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 24 2019 05:20 Jockmcplop wrote: If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious. Copcake, what do you think about HF? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote: So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes. Or... He just slipped big time. On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote: What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia. Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing. Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong. Post asking who I'm mafia with. Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence. Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia. Posts that ask what people think of other people. Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation. Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts. Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list. Now I'm actually reading your posts: On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote: HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game... Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way. You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu? | ||
Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:24 CopCake wrote: I feel very very very very offended - shows tongue - and except for Copcake as well (and probably some dead others). | ||
Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote: Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing. Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong. Post asking who I'm mafia with. Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence. Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia. Posts that ask what people think of other people. Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation. Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts. Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list. Now I'm actually reading your posts: You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu? LOL hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote: LOL hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake. The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn? | ||
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