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On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote:
I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash. Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first.
Usually I do too. Which might happen again but I'll need to go back to sleep sometime tonight. I don't want to wake up tomorrow with 10-15 extra pages to try to read with 15 minutes, decide and make a vote. I'd rather talk while people are about.
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On July 02 2019 16:31 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:28 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 02 2019 16:26 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 16:20 Holyflare wrote:On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote:On July 02 2019 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's something i can possibly understand. My problem is pretty much the wording because as someone already said the mafia game is old and i don't think there is any reason why ES as mafia couldn't start like last game today. Like i mean the wording since for you also -- as you said, last game you wanted to see if she could play like that as mafia. Why is it not the case now?
Idk if my explanation is clear enoguh. I'm not sure if I fully understand what you are getting at but I'll try... Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously. Yes, this is an assumption, but I think it's an okay assumption because other reasons also support the townread. In this game, Eversince's play is like her town game last game and different from her mafia game. And moreso, the difference is in a way that is harder to replicate as mafia. I know for me and many others, posting as mafia is difficult, and as a result the posts feel rigid, forced, and dry. Posts tend to be a little longer, more focused and less carefree and spontaneous. This contrast is how I was able to townread Tumblewood early on in a previous game and that townread nearly managed to win the game. Do you feel like this applies to you this game trfel? No, I don't. @Jockmcplop, my townread on Eversince achieved exactly what it was supposed to. Do you still townread ES? Of course. I do really believe in tonereads of this type. Her post about being willing to lynch Grackaroni already (!) makes me doubt slightly though, feels a bit opportunistic/eager, but I think the tone read is much stronger.
Willing but not preferred! I said here that it would be more a policy lynch.
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On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote:
I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash.
Just reference for people!
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On July 02 2019 16:33 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote:
I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash. Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. Usually I do too. Which might happen again but I'll need to go back to sleep sometime tonight. I don't want to wake up tomorrow with 10-15 extra pages to try to read with 15 minutes, decide and make a vote. I'd rather talk while people are about.
Fair enough.
What do you think of Pandain?
Immediately reversing his only read is a little suspicious and 'I changed my perspective' is a very opaque answer as to what happened. It kinda it makes it impossible to progress a conversation about what exactly pandain is thinking. Not being open about your thought process is mafia motivated at this point, especially when something like his trfel read debacle sticks out so obviously in the thread.
His vote on you also seems like he's forcing something, trying to be first to vote for some reason.
I can see mafia motivation everywhere with this guy already.
##vote pandain
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On July 02 2019 16:25 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
Pandain nothing actually happened between you townreading trfel 'exrtemely strongly' and then downgrading twice to null. That's kinda lame dude.
my perspective changed
This is a really terrible answer tbh.
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Bleh Pand seems to me the same as last game. I don't understand his logic and I'm 'ok' with his reasons for Truffles/ES read now, it took me a long time to get there. I'm not vesting into Pand real hard because last game I spent the entire time thinking he was mafia, he turned up town. I think there could be mafia motivation behind the vote on me. I'll have to think on that. I'm real ditsy, easy to misunderstand, and don't pick up on people real fast. But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?
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I know I said I didn't need to vote early, but this really jumped out at me. Pandain come back and be more town for me, I don't like having such a strong scumread so early lol.
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On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote:
Bleh Pand seems to me the same as last game. I don't understand his logic and I'm 'ok' with his reasons for Truffles/ES read now, it took me a long time to get there. I'm not vesting into Pand real hard because last game I spent the entire time thinking he was mafia, he turned up town. I think there could be mafia motivation behind the vote on me. I'll have to think on that. I'm real ditsy, easy to misunderstand, and don't pick up on people real fast. But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?
Fair enough, I'll do it for you.
Does anyone else here see what I'm getting at with Pandain?
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I see. I am going to try getting into convo with him but thats not going to happen until i am home from work.
I will also reassess grack and idk if eversince answered me but i want to see an answer when i am home. I am just loosely reading along whenever i can at work.
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On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote: But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?
Here's exactly what I'm thinking with this.
Pandain had a read of trfel which he immediately went back on. This suggests that he isn't very confident in his early reads and specifically doesn't really expect to make a read early and stick to it.
That's NAI on its own, although its a little odd so early in the game.
When added to that, the fact that he has a kinda weak, tangential scum read on you and immediately uses it as reason to vote, while leaving the thread so his vote does literally nothing, is really weird. Its like he wanted to have a scum read and make sure we all knew what it was, but is not really trying to progress the game.
If he's not trying to start a wagon, and he didn't stay here and question you or even vaguely try and poke for answers, what was the purpose behind voting for you?
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On July 02 2019 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I see. I am going to try getting into convo with him but thats not going to happen until i am home from work.
I will also reassess grack and idk if eversince answered me but i want to see an answer when i am home. I am just loosely reading along whenever i can at work.
Answer to what? I thought I was up to date but I might of miss something..
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On July 02 2019 16:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
If he's not trying to start a wagon, and he didn't stay here and question you or even vaguely try and poke for answers, what was the purpose behind voting for you?
Pandain if you're reading this is a question I'd like an answer to please...
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On July 02 2019 16:55 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote: But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?
Here's exactly what I'm thinking with this. Pandain had a read of trfel which he immediately went back on. This suggests that he isn't very confident in his early reads and specifically doesn't really expect to make a read early and stick to it. That's NAI on its own, although its a little odd so early in the game. When added to that, the fact that he has a kinda weak, tangential scum read on you and immediately uses it as reason to vote, while leaving the thread so his vote does literally nothing, is really weird. Its like he wanted to have a scum read and make sure we all knew what it was, but is not really trying to progress the game. If he's not trying to start a wagon, and he didn't stay here and question you or even vaguely try and poke for answers, what was the purpose behind voting for you?
That's are actually good points. It's a toss away vote which can gain traction later (If he actually thinks I'm scum here for it why not talk to me?), which is either terrible town or mafia agenda. -sigh- I might have to tunnel Pand again this whole game. Hopefully he's actually mafia.
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On July 02 2019 17:15 Eversince wrote:
Where did HF go?
Here
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On July 02 2019 17:18 Holyflare wrote:Here
Thoughts on people outside Pandain? actually throw Jock's Pandain points too..
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On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?
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You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list.
Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)).
Jock looks fine.
Rayn is here I guess.
Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre.
Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good.
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On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?
On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.
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