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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 04:27 GMT
#121
I think that's about it. Lets talk though, I'm super bored!
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 02 2019 04:33 GMT
#122
Yeah honestly I don't have many thoughts, kinda why I asked. That's a good point on Conversion, he barely stayed to talk at all.

@Pandain, I'm wondering, since Eversince has now (seemingly) given a fairly strong townread on me, how does that affect your read on Eversince?

I don't really like how Conversion and raynpelikoneet both threw suspicion at my posts about the townread but didn't draw any conclusions from it. Feels like an easy way to transition later into a scumread or back off from it, depending on how the game goes. That said it's also valid from a town perspective. I was kinda surprised raynpelikoneet backed off, I'm not used to him doing that, but he was a lot calmer last game and I think he knows that I do weird things when I'm town sometimes so it's fair. If I had to guess I'd guess Conversion for the best chance at mafia but I feel like I'm grasping at straws :/
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 02 2019 04:38 GMT
#123
Does Grackaroni feel different to you? Last game he was posting gifs and nonsense, this game he's felt much more reserved and businesslike and even apologized for making a joke (at least I presume that's what that was, I admit I didn't quite understand it). It just feels like he's having a little less fun, and even while discussing the game, so far he's been the least committal of everyone in the thread.

Thoughts?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 04:44 GMT
#124
I think your point about both are fine. Rayn generally will push hard, but not get irate with you, if he thinks your doing something. If he isn't sure he's not going to try to put you on a stick and burn you. The problem with Conversion is that he came in, rehashed a valid point, ignored the rest of the thread and left.

Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 04:50 GMT
#125
Man why did we all have to get old and have lives? I want my 20 hours a day to play mafia back! (Thus fist on table).
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 02 2019 04:51 GMT
#126
Yeah, fair enough. I guess I dunno what to think about much of anything haha
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 04:52 GMT
#127
Well helps if people post !
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 02 2019 05:11 GMT
#128
On July 02 2019 13:52 Eversince wrote:
Well helps if people post !
Yeah, the lack of activity has been a little disappointing so far :/ maybe things will pick up as the Europeans wake up?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 05:24 GMT
#129
Hope. The problem I think is we are split night shift people. So you're awake and at work, or asleep. This problem is around the clock because it's half on either side. Then again on either side of the pond. Reasons I didn't mention HF, he'll get free time, come, and just be super town. Or he rolled mafia and is just afking.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2019 05:51 GMT
#130
On July 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk i am letting this go atm. You have given your pov and it's up to me to decide if i think you're telling the truth or not. I am interested in why Pandain apparently thinks the same as i do about ES' play so far yet he somehow reads you town for just making a read (not even agreeing with it) he wouldn't even ever make in the first place (i assume that meant as town unless he wants to call himself mafia straight up).


I don't think it's a smart read. But I don't think it is particuarly helpful for mafia to make a detailed townread on someone so early in the game. It binds their hands and limits their play. If ES for instance was a possible lynch it would be hard for trfel to support it.

But after waking up I decided im not gonna give Trfel a very strong townread for it. Just a slight one.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2019 05:55 GMT
#131
On July 02 2019 13:33 Trfel wrote:
Yeah honestly I don't have many thoughts, kinda why I asked. That's a good point on Conversion, he barely stayed to talk at all.

@Pandain, I'm wondering, since Eversince has now (seemingly) given a fairly strong townread on me, how does that affect your read on Eversince?

I don't really like how Conversion and raynpelikoneet both threw suspicion at my posts about the townread but didn't draw any conclusions from it. Feels like an easy way to transition later into a scumread or back off from it, depending on how the game goes. That said it's also valid from a town perspective. I was kinda surprised raynpelikoneet backed off, I'm not used to him doing that, but he was a lot calmer last game and I think he knows that I do weird things when I'm town sometimes so it's fair. If I had to guess I'd guess Conversion for the best chance at mafia but I feel like I'm grasping at straws :/


It doesn't. Mainly because your post was way earlier and she made that read after I made my comment about how I like people who do strong town reads after.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2019 05:57 GMT
#132
I'm voting ES. Her posts seem kind of fake and I don't know how she can seriously believe she "deserves" a town read this early in the take when absolutely nothing has happened.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 06:22 GMT
#133
On July 02 2019 14:57 Pandain wrote:
I'm voting ES. Her posts seem kind of fake and I don't know how she can seriously believe she "deserves" a town read this early in the take when absolutely nothing has happened.


You can vote me I don't care! I 'seriously' believe that you gave Truffles a town read for doing the exact same thing I was trying to do. But I'm null. (I don't care if you want to read me mafia, but don't use reasons you yourself used to town somebody)! I don't mean I deserve anything. I'm just pushing at walls trying to get thread moving,engage with people and bounce ideas. The fact you think that's questionable is serious concerning.

Let's talk though Pand I don't want to waste half this game tunneled on you if you are town.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2019 06:29 GMT
#134
Since you're misunderstanding, I did not give Trfels a town read for activity or "The same thing ES is doing."

I gave Trfels a town read because I didn't think it's very mafia-like to make a strong(ish) town read on someone so early in the game.

Contrarily, I am not giving you a town read just because you're active. The game has 7 pages, it's not very hard to be active.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 06:34 GMT
#135
Ok, but giving townread to Truffles for engaging and dropping me is like bleh. Common. I get your point m!Truffles wouldn't want to involve with m!ES so early for no reason but we are both trying to start thread. m!ES is trying to drive the start of the thread and get people active? Make sense. But were is my agenda?? I'm just trying to be super happy and start conversations same as I did last time! And now your voting me. I'm obviously your scum read but your logic doesn't make sense to me!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 06:35 GMT
#136
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2019 06:36 GMT
#137
On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's something i can possibly understand. My problem is pretty much the wording because as someone already said the mafia game is old and i don't think there is any reason why ES as mafia couldn't start like last game today. Like i mean the wording since for you also -- as you said, last game you wanted to see if she could play like that as mafia. Why is it not the case now?

Idk if my explanation is clear enoguh.
I'm not sure if I fully understand what you are getting at but I'll try...

Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously. Yes, this is an assumption, but I think it's an okay assumption because other reasons also support the townread.

In this game, Eversince's play is like her town game last game and different from her mafia game. And moreso, the difference is in a way that is harder to replicate as mafia. I know for me and many others, posting as mafia is difficult, and as a result the posts feel rigid, forced, and dry. Posts tend to be a little longer, more focused and less carefree and spontaneous. This contrast is how I was able to townread Tumblewood early on in a previous game and that townread nearly managed to win the game.


Going to remove my townread on Trfels. The bolded phrase seems very definitive and certain that ES is town.

Trfels, what do you think about the fact that ES's last mafia game was 4 years ago and she could be playing extremely differently than her previous game?

I know my first mafia game this year was completely different than how I used to play mafia back in 2013.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 02 2019 06:38 GMT
#138
On July 02 2019 15:34 Eversince wrote:
Ok, but giving townread to Truffles for engaging and dropping me is like bleh.


This is not why I'm giving a townread to Trfels. I'm giving a townread because I didn't think it was likely for a mafia to make a strong town read so early in the game. Not for anything to do with engagement or activity.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 06:39 GMT
#139
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 02 2019 06:43 GMT
#140
On July 02 2019 15:38 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 15:34 Eversince wrote:
Ok, but giving townread to Truffles for engaging and dropping me is like bleh.


This is not why I'm giving a townread to Trfels. I'm giving a townread because I didn't think it was likely for a mafia to make a strong town read so early in the game. Not for anything to do with engagement or activity.


Oh wait! I think I get this now.

You don't think m!Truffles try to buddy me so early for no reason?
I'm active, but that doesn't mean much, I'm doing my usual self, so m!Truffles never just throws himself off a radio tower here? Null on me because of previous?
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