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Eversince
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Trfel
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@Pandain, I'm wondering, since Eversince has now (seemingly) given a fairly strong townread on me, how does that affect your read on Eversince? I don't really like how Conversion and raynpelikoneet both threw suspicion at my posts about the townread but didn't draw any conclusions from it. Feels like an easy way to transition later into a scumread or back off from it, depending on how the game goes. That said it's also valid from a town perspective. I was kinda surprised raynpelikoneet backed off, I'm not used to him doing that, but he was a lot calmer last game and I think he knows that I do weird things when I'm town sometimes so it's fair. If I had to guess I'd guess Conversion for the best chance at mafia but I feel like I'm grasping at straws :/ | ||
Trfel
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. | ||
Eversince
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Trfel
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Eversince
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Trfel
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On July 02 2019 13:52 Eversince wrote: Yeah, the lack of activity has been a little disappointing so far :/ maybe things will pick up as the Europeans wake up?Well helps if people post ![]() | ||
Eversince
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk i am letting this go atm. You have given your pov and it's up to me to decide if i think you're telling the truth or not. I am interested in why Pandain apparently thinks the same as i do about ES' play so far yet he somehow reads you town for just making a read (not even agreeing with it) he wouldn't even ever make in the first place (i assume that meant as town unless he wants to call himself mafia straight up). I don't think it's a smart read. But I don't think it is particuarly helpful for mafia to make a detailed townread on someone so early in the game. It binds their hands and limits their play. If ES for instance was a possible lynch it would be hard for trfel to support it. But after waking up I decided im not gonna give Trfel a very strong townread for it. Just a slight one. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 02 2019 13:33 Trfel wrote: Yeah honestly I don't have many thoughts, kinda why I asked. That's a good point on Conversion, he barely stayed to talk at all. @Pandain, I'm wondering, since Eversince has now (seemingly) given a fairly strong townread on me, how does that affect your read on Eversince? I don't really like how Conversion and raynpelikoneet both threw suspicion at my posts about the townread but didn't draw any conclusions from it. Feels like an easy way to transition later into a scumread or back off from it, depending on how the game goes. That said it's also valid from a town perspective. I was kinda surprised raynpelikoneet backed off, I'm not used to him doing that, but he was a lot calmer last game and I think he knows that I do weird things when I'm town sometimes so it's fair. If I had to guess I'd guess Conversion for the best chance at mafia but I feel like I'm grasping at straws :/ It doesn't. Mainly because your post was way earlier and she made that read after I made my comment about how I like people who do strong town reads after. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 02 2019 14:57 Pandain wrote: I'm voting ES. Her posts seem kind of fake and I don't know how she can seriously believe she "deserves" a town read this early in the take when absolutely nothing has happened. You can vote me I don't care! I 'seriously' believe that you gave Truffles a town read for doing the exact same thing I was trying to do. But I'm null. (I don't care if you want to read me mafia, but don't use reasons you yourself used to town somebody)! I don't mean I deserve anything. I'm just pushing at walls trying to get thread moving,engage with people and bounce ideas. The fact you think that's questionable is serious concerning. Let's talk though Pand I don't want to waste half this game tunneled on you if you are town. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
I gave Trfels a town read because I didn't think it's very mafia-like to make a strong(ish) town read on someone so early in the game. Contrarily, I am not giving you a town read just because you're active. The game has 7 pages, it's not very hard to be active. | ||
Eversince
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote: I'm not sure if I fully understand what you are getting at but I'll try... Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously. Yes, this is an assumption, but I think it's an okay assumption because other reasons also support the townread. In this game, Eversince's play is like her town game last game and different from her mafia game. And moreso, the difference is in a way that is harder to replicate as mafia. I know for me and many others, posting as mafia is difficult, and as a result the posts feel rigid, forced, and dry. Posts tend to be a little longer, more focused and less carefree and spontaneous. This contrast is how I was able to townread Tumblewood early on in a previous game and that townread nearly managed to win the game. Going to remove my townread on Trfels. The bolded phrase seems very definitive and certain that ES is town. Trfels, what do you think about the fact that ES's last mafia game was 4 years ago and she could be playing extremely differently than her previous game? I know my first mafia game this year was completely different than how I used to play mafia back in 2013. | ||
Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 02 2019 15:34 Eversince wrote: Ok, but giving townread to Truffles for engaging and dropping me is like bleh. This is not why I'm giving a townread to Trfels. I'm giving a townread because I didn't think it was likely for a mafia to make a strong town read so early in the game. Not for anything to do with engagement or activity. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 02 2019 15:38 Pandain wrote: This is not why I'm giving a townread to Trfels. I'm giving a townread because I didn't think it was likely for a mafia to make a strong town read so early in the game. Not for anything to do with engagement or activity. Oh wait! I think I get this now. You don't think m!Truffles try to buddy me so early for no reason? I'm active, but that doesn't mean much, I'm doing my usual self, so m!Truffles never just throws himself off a radio tower here? Null on me because of previous? | ||
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