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On July 02 2019 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list.
Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)).
Jock looks fine.
Rayn is here I guess.
Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre.
Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good.
I didn't quote your pandain post, but i did take notice of it and it prompted me to have a closer look at him, hence my posting since.
On July 02 2019 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like Pandain deciding to town read trfel, hearing trfel say his read wasn't that strong but THEN saying "I don't think trfel would make such a strong town read as mafia because that ties his hands."
Feels like you ignored everything trfel was saying. Don't hate the picking up on grack and conversion later but the trfel thing, especially downgrading your read after for something not relevant at all (the bolded thing you highlighted) looks like you're just winging your read and aren't thinking it through.
That surely applies to his scum read of ES too, right?
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On July 02 2019 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list.
Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)).
Jock looks fine.
Rayn is here I guess.
Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre.
Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good.
I'm trying to get people talking with agenda stuff. I want people to explain thoughts. Sad that makes me scum  !
I like Truffles posting a lot, so care to talk on that? I have a heavy town read on him right now.
I'm actively trying not to focus on Pand before repeat of last game happens  !
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On July 02 2019 17:28 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list.
Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)).
Jock looks fine.
Rayn is here I guess.
Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre.
Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good. I didn't quote your pandain post, but i did take notice of it and it prompted me to have a closer look at him, hence my posting since. Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like Pandain deciding to town read trfel, hearing trfel say his read wasn't that strong but THEN saying "I don't think trfel would make such a strong town read as mafia because that ties his hands."
Feels like you ignored everything trfel was saying. Don't hate the picking up on grack and conversion later but the trfel thing, especially downgrading your read after for something not relevant at all (the bolded thing you highlighted) looks like you're just winging your read and aren't thinking it through. That surely applies to his scum read of ES too, right?
No idea what his es read is lol. Null read or something?
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Null enough to vote for me @HF
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On July 02 2019 17:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 17:28 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 02 2019 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list.
Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)).
Jock looks fine.
Rayn is here I guess.
Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre.
Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good. I didn't quote your pandain post, but i did take notice of it and it prompted me to have a closer look at him, hence my posting since. On July 02 2019 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like Pandain deciding to town read trfel, hearing trfel say his read wasn't that strong but THEN saying "I don't think trfel would make such a strong town read as mafia because that ties his hands."
Feels like you ignored everything trfel was saying. Don't hate the picking up on grack and conversion later but the trfel thing, especially downgrading your read after for something not relevant at all (the bolded thing you highlighted) looks like you're just winging your read and aren't thinking it through. That surely applies to his scum read of ES too, right? No idea what his es read is lol. Null read or something?
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On July 02 2019 14:57 Pandain wrote:
I'm voting ES. Her posts seem kind of fake and I don't know how she can seriously believe she "deserves" a town read this early in the take when absolutely nothing has happened.
Then he voted ES.
That's what I mean, it seems so half-arsed.
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So like his top scum read.
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My problem with pandain is that i have no idea how he makes some of his conclusions. Like i get how he gets there but i am not fan of the "certainty" of the conclusion. Like an exaggerated comparison would be if someone said "thos guy did this null thing and ot makea him town". Pretty much the same thing i scumread shapelog for last game. I will elaborate better when i am off work. At first glance hf's post on him sounded fine too.
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On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.
Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything?
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On July 02 2019 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with pandain is that i have no idea how he makes some of his conclusions. Like i get how he gets there but i am not fan of the "certainty" of the conclusion. Like an exaggerated comparison would be if someone said "thos guy did this null thing and ot makea him town". Pretty much the same thing i scumread shapelog for last game. I will elaborate better when i am off work. At first glance hf's post on him sounded fine too.
Like based on what pandain said on trfel and es, why cannot they be mafia together?
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On July 02 2019 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything?
Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense to me there because he just mia off. Nothing happens that early. You either try to be active and start the thread or just mia. Which he did. Or you try to get groundwork into looking town (Which he didn't). Showing up and being general useless doesn't make any sense as town or mafia. But Grack is flighty, tends to put a hell of a lot more effort late D1/D2. I don't like him continuing to be useless but I made post on this already. If he's still useless day 2 we can just lynch him but standard Grack play is standard Grack.
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On July 02 2019 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2019 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with pandain is that i have no idea how he makes some of his conclusions. Like i get how he gets there but i am not fan of the "certainty" of the conclusion. Like an exaggerated comparison would be if someone said "thos guy did this null thing and ot makea him town". Pretty much the same thing i scumread shapelog for last game. I will elaborate better when i am off work. At first glance hf's post on him sounded fine too. Like based on what pandain said on trfel and es, why cannot they be mafia together?
Interesting.
In Tropical Storm mafia, trfel gives rsoultin an early townread based on the fact that her posting was 'relaxed'.
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=Trfel
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T
They were both mafia.
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Do you, ES, think that grack is self-aware of his meta to some extent?
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On July 02 2019 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you, ES, think that grack is self-aware of his meta to some extent?
He's been playing since I joined this site so I'm sure yes. Probably uses it to advantage as scum, why I think he's not worth the lynch now but later? Sure.
@Jock I'll go filter that game and brainstorm.
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On July 02 2019 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi conversion, seems like we share a lot of things and feelings. Are you me?
yes I will hereby be referenced as raynversion
On July 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk i am letting this go atm. You have given your pov and it's up to me to decide if i think you're telling the truth or not. I am interested in why Pandain apparently thinks the same as i do about ES' play so far yet he somehow reads you town for just making a read (not even agreeing with it) he wouldn't even ever make in the first place (i assume that meant as town unless he wants to call himself mafia straight up).
good post
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eversince has 4 pages of nothing from her filter. I guess she wants to lynch me for being mediocre, but wants to give a free pass to Grack cuz “meta”?
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Conversion what do you think of #191?
Its a bit startling to me the absolute similarity in what trfel has done in those two games so early on, down to the wording. Can we solve the whole game from one post? 
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Ok. I read through his filter from that game real fast. Posting style seems very different from here.
I'm ok with lynching you for coming into thread, saying 1 perfect valid thing, ignoring the rest of the thread, fucking right off. Don't misunderstand me !
I give Grack a pass because I've on/off played with him 4 years now and expect this type of thing.=I'm not going to immediately scum read you.
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On July 02 2019 18:37 Eversince wrote:Ok. I read through his filter from that game real fast. Posting style seems very different from here. @Conv EBWOP sorry, to make this clear.. I'm ok with lynching you for coming into thread, saying 1 perfect valid thing, ignoring the rest of the thread, fucking right off. Don't misunderstand me ! I give Grack a pass because I've on/off played with him 4 years now and expect this type of thing.=I'm not going to immediately scum read you.
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On July 02 2019 18:34 Jockmcplop wrote:Conversion what do you think of #191? Its a bit startling to me the absolute similarity in what trfel has done in those two games so early on, down to the wording. Can we solve the whole game from one post?
I’ll do a deeper check once I’m home, but I personally don’t like meta checks so early. although what you pointed out looked ok
I kinda want to lynch Grack atm
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On July 02 2019 18:37 Eversince wrote:
Ok. I read through his filter from that game real fast. Posting style seems very different from here.
I can see why you wouldn't agree with me given that the conclusion you would draw from post is that both you and trfel are mafia....
I'll keep in mind what you said about it as other people respond to me though.
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