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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 14:37 GMT
#221
you may even get to lynch hf
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 14:42 GMT
#222
I like you and jock so far, most likely won't lynch into that.

HF mediocre

would like to lynch into es/trfel/pandain probably at this moment.

I gotta head out to work right now-- I'll give more insightful reads if needed
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9762 Posts
July 02 2019 14:43 GMT
#223
I can't see a single thing in conversion's big post on ES that actually means anything. I can't tell if the post is supposed to be defending himself or attacking ES. Its a bit of a mish mash of both tbh. There's certainly not really anything in there that would suggest to me that ES is mafia or behaving mafia-like. Maybe town with a slight lack of self awareness.

Mostly all that big post is is a list of her posts with some commentary that is meant to make them look bad.

ES was in the middle of conversation with me about Pandain, at the beginning of which she was like 'i don't want to tunnel pand again' and after which she was thinking that maybe pand is scum, partly because of stuff that i said, that progression makes perfect sense - it was just reacting to what other people in the thread were talking about.

RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 14:44 GMT
#224
i think we are agreeing on the lynch pool and i think you're town so for me it's not needed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 14:45 GMT
#225
On July 02 2019 23:43 Jockmcplop wrote:

Mostly all that big post is is a list of her posts with some commentary that is meant to make them look bad.


It isn't, there are a couple of very good points there.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9762 Posts
July 02 2019 14:48 GMT
#226
On July 02 2019 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 23:43 Jockmcplop wrote:

Mostly all that big post is is a list of her posts with some commentary that is meant to make them look bad.


It isn't, there are a couple of very good points there.


Maybe I would like to know:
Why does it matter that people talk about her town read?


But I really disagree with conversion's interpretation of the big picture around ES's posting. I'm willing to keep an open mind on it though, I'm null on ES anyway at the moment.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9762 Posts
July 02 2019 14:50 GMT
#227
On July 02 2019 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 23:43 Jockmcplop wrote:

Mostly all that big post is is a list of her posts with some commentary that is meant to make them look bad.


It isn't, there are a couple of very good points there.


I'm also reticent to go agreeing with conversion when he makes these types of posts. He always manages to make a big case on whoever has accused him of being mafia - every single time!
So i'm bearing that in mind when deciding whether his post has good points in it or not.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 14:54 GMT
#228
You, Jock, need to remember omgus isn't actually omgus if you have reasons for why the other person's shit is shit. I haven't seen you use omgus out of context but i have seen it many many times. Just because someone called you mafia doesn't make it invalid to make a case on them based on them calling you mafia (since mafia will anyways call townies mafia based on bs reasoning).

Do you think ES is town? Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 14:57 GMT
#229
fyi last game conversion was mafia in there was nothing wrong with how he dealt with people aside from participating into the iGrok bullshit thing.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
July 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#230
On July 02 2019 16:31 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 16:28 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:26 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:20 Holyflare wrote:
On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's something i can possibly understand. My problem is pretty much the wording because as someone already said the mafia game is old and i don't think there is any reason why ES as mafia couldn't start like last game today. Like i mean the wording since for you also -- as you said, last game you wanted to see if she could play like that as mafia. Why is it not the case now?

Idk if my explanation is clear enoguh.
I'm not sure if I fully understand what you are getting at but I'll try...

Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously. Yes, this is an assumption, but I think it's an okay assumption because other reasons also support the townread.

In this game, Eversince's play is like her town game last game and different from her mafia game. And moreso, the difference is in a way that is harder to replicate as mafia. I know for me and many others, posting as mafia is difficult, and as a result the posts feel rigid, forced, and dry. Posts tend to be a little longer, more focused and less carefree and spontaneous. This contrast is how I was able to townread Tumblewood early on in a previous game and that townread nearly managed to win the game.


Do you feel like this applies to you this game trfel?
No, I don't.

@Jockmcplop, my townread on Eversince achieved exactly what it was supposed to.


Do you still townread ES?
Of course. I do really believe in tonereads of this type. Her post about being willing to lynch Grackaroni already (!) makes me doubt slightly though, feels a bit opportunistic/eager, but I think the tone read is much stronger.

Last game you accused me of disappearing 40 minutes into the thread.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
July 02 2019 15:04 GMT
#231
I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me.

On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?

Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9762 Posts
July 02 2019 15:04 GMT
#232
On July 02 2019 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You, Jock, need to remember omgus isn't actually omgus if you have reasons for why the other person's shit is shit. I haven't seen you use omgus out of context but i have seen it many many times. Just because someone called you mafia doesn't make it invalid to make a case on them based on them calling you mafia (since mafia will anyways call townies mafia based on bs reasoning).

Do you think ES is town? Why?


I'm null on ES (see above). I'm open minded.

What I'm saying about conversion is that he would have made that case regardless of whether or not he thought ES was being scummy, because he does every time he's accused of being mafia. So when I'm judging whether or not he's making good points, that is a factor in my judgement.

I'm not saying 'Its OMGUS ignore him'.

I also happen to disagree with him about his general commentary on ES's play so far, although I'm interested in ES assuming that we should townread her and why we shouldn't talk about her trfel townread.

I just don't think that particular case is enough for me to scumread ES.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:05 GMT
#233
Okay you guys can talk it out then i guess.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:06 GMT
#234
On July 03 2019 00:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also happen to disagree with him about his general commentary on ES's play so far,

I disagree with you here though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:07 GMT
#235
On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?

Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas?

can you expand on this?
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
July 02 2019 15:08 GMT
#236
On July 03 2019 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me.

On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?

Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas?

can you expand on this?

He found me suspicious in the last game for not interacting with thread and disappearing.

In this game he is calling other people opportunistic for considering voting me.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:09 GMT
#237
On July 03 2019 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me.

On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?

Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas?

can you expand on this?

He found me suspicious in the last game for not interacting with thread and disappearing.

In this game he is calling other people opportunistic for considering voting me.

but last game you did that as town in his mind right?
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
July 02 2019 15:09 GMT
#238
On July 03 2019 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 03 2019 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me.

On June 24 2019 04:55 Trfel wrote:
@Shapelog, what are you cooking?

Currently I think Grackaroni is the best shot at being mafia. He didn't interact at all with anyone and just vanished from the thread, and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scared of an innocent child... unless he's mafia. I know it's not very strong but it's the best I see, anyone have any similar or different ideas?

can you expand on this?

He found me suspicious in the last game for not interacting with thread and disappearing.

In this game he is calling other people opportunistic for considering voting me.

but last game you did that as town in his mind right?

I guess that's true.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9762 Posts
July 02 2019 15:10 GMT
#239
On July 03 2019 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 00:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also happen to disagree with him about his general commentary on ES's play so far,

I disagree with you here though.


I might be wrong (?!?!?!?!?!?!)




I don't need to decide right now. If conversion is right, it will come to light, its not like we're gonna have a shortage of ES posts to analyze, right?
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:13 GMT
#240
+ Show Spoiler [off topic] +
Is there any way to reach Eywa for anyone in the game? I would love to play this game so that noone drops or gets replaced (or Eywa could get replaced rn but that's not fair i think). Regardless of who is mafia this game looks and feels pretty enjoyable and i'd hate if it got ruined.
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